"The galaxy still bears the scars of the horde. But it will learn to fear the lance."It's no secret that there's always an inverse relationship with quantity and quality. For whatever reason a lot of writers tend to take the side of quality. It's likely because it's commonly viewed as being easier to produce many things with little effort than producing a single thing with a lot of effort. At times, this is often intended as a Take That! towards companies who subscribe to the above theory by making cheap but low-quality products. Most commonly the protagonists in a given work are a small elite group pitted against a large group of weak mooks. Possibly because throwing away the lives of people on your own side is seen as unethical. Conservation of Ninjutsu is a demonstration of this trope, while Zerg Rush is a specific inversion of it.
— Warlord Okeer, Mass Effect 2
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- A dilemma that Section 9 has to deal with in Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. The Big Bad of the second season points out that no matter how good the members of Section 9 are, they will still lose if they are outnumbered. Batou later has to decide whether he should decrease the difficulty for new recruits to join S9, knowing that doing so would reduce the overall quality and potential each member has. Ultimately, in "Solid State Society", Section 9 has expanded its ranks.
Films — Live-Action
- The good guys in Star Wars tend to subscribe to this philosophy: a highly trained and well-equipped clone army in the prequels, and better-armed and -defended fighters in the original trilogy and EU. The bad guys, meanwhile? Millions of flimsy, rock-stupid battle droids for the Trade Federation, while the Empire sticks millions of Stormtroopers in a Highly Conspicuous Uniform and sets the passing score to 5% at the Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy. Which is inexplicable really, since it means the Empire completely reversed its doctrines between trilogies.
- The heroes in The Lord of the Rings. Vastly outnumbered but far better trained and armed forces on the side of good vs. a massive horde of undisciplined Orcs and savage Uruk-hai who usually win by steamrolling the opposition with their sheer numbers.
- The novelization of The Karate Kid (the original one) had Daniel complain to Mr. Miyagi before the tournament that he didn't know very many moves. Miyagi replied that he was better than the Cobra-Kais at the ones he did know.
- Honor Harrington:
- A recurring theme for the Royal Manticoran Navy, due in no small part to their primary threat being the expansive People's Republic of Haven, whose fleet they could not hope to match in numbers. Over the course of several decades, King Roger, and after his death, his daughter Queen Elizabeth, funded a series of secret R&D projects which, when paired with a very aggressive shipbuilding program, meant the war between Manticore and Haven was a long series of Superweapon Surprises for the Havenites to deal with.
- The Manticoran Alliance faces a similar problem when war breaks out with the Solarian League. The Solarians have more superdreadnoughts than Manticore have cruisers, but their technology and doctrine are several centuries out of date because no one has dared fight them until now and they grew overly confident in their presumed superiority. The primary concern held by the Manticorans is that they may run out of ammo before the Solarians run out of ships.
- The local militaries on planets where Hammer's Slammers are hired usually have more personnel, but they also tend towards some combination of incompetence, poor discipline, and/or low tech. The Slammers are disciplined, competent, and equipped with the best Hover Tanks and Plasma Cannons money can buy. Whoever can afford their rates tends to win.
- The Roman Legionaires in Ranks of Bronze are a bit of a variant. Individually they're no better, if not inferior, to most of the "barb" warriors their alien masters send them against, but they're trained to act as cohesive units that when in formation can take on vastly superior numbers of disorganized barbs.
- Doctor Who: "Doomsday".
Cyberleader: Daleks, be warned. You have declared war upon the Cybermen.
Dalek Sec: This is not war... this is pest control!
Cyberleader: We have five million Cybermen. How many are you?
Dalek Sec: Four.
Cyberleader: You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?
Dalek Sec: We would destroy the Cybermen with one Dalek! You are superior in only one respect.
Cyberleader: What is that?
Dalek Sec: You are better at dying!
- Taken up a notch when the Daleks notice the Doctor in the background.
Rose: Five million Cybermen, easy. One Doctor, now you're scared.
- In Lexx, Mantrid's replicating drone swarm seems virtually unstoppable until the crew plugs 790's head into one of the drone arms. 790's vastly superior processor allows him to fight off numerous normal drones, and the crew quickly exploits this to turn Mantrid's own strategy against him by converting the drones they destroy into 790 drones. Mantrid ultimately counters this by attacking the crew head on with his main force of drones, which so outnumbers the meager 790 force that Mantrid can have them surround and crush the 790 drones through sheer weight of numbers.
- Game of Thrones:
- House Stark and their Tully allies can muster only about 30,000 men (due to early Tully defeats and reversals, they are not able to muster the full strength of the densely populated and prosperous Riverlands), but face upwards of 60,000 Lannister forces (many, many more when the Tyrells join the Lannister side). And despite almost always being badly outnumbered in individual battles, they have never once been defeated (except for that 2,000-men decoy force sent to confront Tywin in Season 1). Ultimately though, the strategic imbalance between Stark/Tully and Lannister/Tyrell means that the Starks can't win a protracted war outside of the North.
- Although the force Lyanna can offer is small, she claims that each of her warriors are worth ten mainlanders (evocative of House Mormont's sigil animal; a bear). Considering how badass Northern soldiers have generally been portrayed when fighting larger southern forces, this is quite the Badass Boast. This isn't an idle boast, either. As explained in the novels, the Bear Island is off the northwest coast of the North, so they're constantly fighting off not only wildling raids (in small fishing ships) but heavy raids from the Ironborn coming up from the south. Thus they have very strong martial traditions — look at how tough Jeor was and Jorah still is — and they also had to train even their daughters to be warriors (to survive while the men are out at sea in fishing ships).
- This trope was Nintendo's whole argument during their dominance in the '80s and early '90s before they changed their policies after being accused of monopolistic practices with their licensing agreements. The original agreement was that licensees could only make up to five games a year; the reasoning behind the decision was that it was better for the developers to focus on creating a few smash hits than to flood the market by churning out mediocre games, as was the case with Atari before the crash (some companies with a good track record for quality would make up bogus development houses to go above the five-per-year limit, like Konami did when they made up the Ultra Games label).
- In the WarioWare series, this is the contrast between Mona Pizza and Pizza Dinosaur. While in their shared theme song, Mona Pizza boasts about how great their pizzas are, Pizza Dinosaur only boasts about how they're everywhere, while acknowledging that their pizzas are terrible. In WarioWare: Twisted, Pizza Dinosaur has its business being taken away by Mona Pizza, driving them to use more aggressive measures of competition. The series in general is about a small team of people cranking out games on a per-minute rate. Each game is about 4 to 8 seconds long, and hundreds of them pour out at a time. Wario has seen much success with this model, both in the stories for the games and in real life sales of the video games in this series. (So basically, this game is an inversion where quantity wins out.)
- In Mass Effect, Saren tries to cure the Krogan Genophage so he'll have a Krogan horde at his back. In Mass Effect 2 Warlord Okeer derides the idea of sheer numbers, calling it the mistake of an outsider. He, himself, has created Grunt, whom he considers a perfect Krogan warrior.
- In the Army Men series, it's stated on one occasion that the Tan forces outnumber the Greens by as much as 50 to 1. Even if Sarge was exaggerating when he said this number, the Tans still seem to outnumber the Green troops by a good bit. However, the Greens will beat the Tans on the open battlefield almost every time, indicating that they put more emphasis in training their troops unlike the tans who seem to function purely on on the We Have Reserves mentality.
- Invoked in universe by Donna in Final Fantasy X. She berates Yuna for choosing a large number of Guardians (AKA the rest of the cast) over one quality one. She even says "Quantity over Quality, what were you thinking?" (She herself only has her Lover Bartello). And in the end it's averted because Yuna ends not only Beating Donna to Zanarkand, she end up saving the world for good. Donna even referred to Yuna's father High Summoner Braska, pointing out that he succeeded with only two Guardians. She's undercut when Bartello realizes that one of Yuna's Guardians is Auron, one of Braska's former Guardians. Yuna has quantity and quality on her side.
- Gilgamesh from Fate/stay night believes that this applies to humanity. Back when he ruled there were far fewer humans but his rule was a golden age and his kingdom was a glorious one full of advanced super-technology. His Evil Plan in Unlimited Blade Works is to use the Grail to thin out the human population so he can rebuild Babylon with the worthy survivors as his new subjects.
- In SpongeBob SquarePants, King Neptune challenges SpongeBob to a frycooking competition where whoever cooks the most Krabby Patties wins, but he concedes to SpongeBob when he finds out that his mass-produced Patties are terrible while SpongeBob's singular Patty made with love is superior. Slow and steady wins the race, indeed.
- Seen in My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic when Sweet Apple Acres gets into a cider-making contest against some slick salesponies and their Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000. This trope is Double Subverted because the machine is shown to make good cider, but when the Apple family, along with the Mane Six, start pulling ahead the sales ponies turn up the power and turn off the quality control, which lets them churn out far more barrels of cider but it's the kind no-one wants to drink.
- An episode of Baby Looney Tunes involves the babies raising money for a volleyball net. When they gets five dollars, Granny takes Bugs to the toy store so he can buy a net for five dollars. Bugs is tempted to buy several toys that cost one dollar each. The cheap toys easily break. Later, Bugs sells his toy rocket ship and manages to buy another net.
- The ancient Spartans were an example of this. The only people allowed to join the Spartan military, still remembered today for being the most hardcore fighting force ever assembled, were males of full Spartan citizenship. With the borderline-insane amounts of training they had to endure from a young age, they were raised from early childhood for the sole purpose of becoming a member of Greece's (and probably history's) most feared and respected military force. While this approach did produce incredible soldiers, the strict entry criteria (most citizens of Sparta were not actually full spartans, such as the Helots) meant that their army was, while still not small, not really large by the standards of the time either. This would end up working against Sparta in the long run, though; however incredible each individual soldier was, they couldn't be in two places at once.
- Furthermore, this training took a long time. Any losses the Spartans took were effectively irreplaceable for a generation. Attrition was a key factor in Sparta's military decline and eventual downfall.
- Overall military philosophy which emerged from World War I can be seen as this. Well-trained and well-equipped armies fielding heavy artillery, medium artillery, light artillery, engineers, trucks, trains, and infantry forces capable of working together to plan and execute operations were the way of the future. Armies which could not co-ordinate those various combat and support arms could neither attack nor defend, and obviously had no future.
- World War II:
- Unsurprisingly given just how massive the armies were, the war as a whole played out in favour of quantity. More specifically, this was true of artillery. When the Soviets and Western Allies began to churn out massive amounts of artillery, (infantry) mortars, and ammunition in 1942 the Germans simply couldn't keep up. The sheer volume of Allied firepower was such that the Germans couldn't prevent them from suppressing the bulk of German tactical defenses in a prepared attack. The superior quality of the German artillerymen and infantry who avoided or were able to work through the bombardments wasn't enough to compensate for the devastating effects of the bombardment, especially given their inability to respond with huge bombardments of their own (caused by their relative shortages of artillery and ammunition). This is why ex-Wehrmacht personnel gave the US Army the (seemingly obvious) suggestion that the best way of stopping a tactical attack by Soviet forces was through heavy artillery fire.
- Again, quantity in armor. Truck-towed artillery may have been critical to suppressing enemy tactical defenses, but self-propelled artillery (including tanks) was very helpful in reducing infantry losses when actually breaking through and beyond them into the open country. Tanks were also key to fighting in the open country itself, where the fast pace of the fighting meant there were delays when bringing truck-towed artillery to bear on the enemy - making tanks the main anti-tank weapon for numerous short but critical windows. Superior numbers of Soviet T-34 and Allied M4 Sherman tanks repeatedly overran smaller numbers of generally superior German tanks in mobile warfare, though the T-34 was actually slightly superior to German Panzer-IV (which became the most common German tank in 1943) and all the Germans' previous 'primary' tanks. There's even a case for arguing that the second-most common German tank, the Panther of 1943-45, was still inferior to the upgraded T-34/85 (the main Soviet tank of 1944-45). The Germans did not, it must be added, help their case when in 1943-44 they repeatedly sent lone panzer divisions (100 tanks) against entire Soviet Tank Armies (400+ tanks) in the mistaken belief that they were just as weak as they had been in previous years (100-200 tanks). This actually worked a couple of times, but always resulted in near-total German tank losses.
- Inverted, in that the Panther tanks were actually notoriously low quality. Panther tanks featured incredibly thin side armor, a shell that was useless for anti-infantry work, and a transmission so incredibly shoddy that most would break down in under 150 miles. Worse still, the team based assembly crews of the Germans meant that no two Panthers were alike; unlike the standardized Sherman and T-34 tanks, you couldn't just get repair parts sent in, or scavenge them from broken down tanks. If something broke, its replacement had to be machined to fit.
- A lot of trouble with the Panther was that it was the first of the post-World War 2 tanks that appeared a few years earlier than its equivalents and designed only to defeat its contemporaries. It was certainly larger and more advanced in various features. Its armor layout was actually superior since heavy front armor with fairly thin side armor provided both good protection and saved weight, provided that the crew was sufficiently skilled (It is very difficult to get a good shot at a tank from the side from a distance, provided that the crew is aware of the surroundings and can maneuver the tank accordingly.) and became the standard feature of many 1950s and 60s tanks. But its margin of superiority over Sherman and T-34 was slim at first and could be largely overcome with few upgrades. In the hands of untrained crews (especially in the August 1944 phase of Operation Bagration in Poland), the Panther became a deathtrap. Compared to its true equivalents - the Pershing/Patton, the Centurion, and the T-44/54/55 - the Panther was a joke.
- This can be seen in the air as well. Fighter aircraft are becoming increasingly more sophisticated and requiring more time to engineer and manufacture. Like tank crews, training fighter pilots is a lengthy, demanding, and expensive process.
- One of the horrifying realizations for the Japanese Airforce during WW2 was this; the Kamikaze attacks they conducted were having diminished success later into the war because while the Japanese have been effectively tossing their airmen at the enemy by the bucket loads, the Allies were fending them off and learning new strategies on how to counter them. Near the end of it, the majority of Kamikaze pilots were young men barely out of basic training piloting what were essentially slapdashed planes made from spare parts, while the Allied airforce against them were veterans of the entire war armed with the most advanced interceptors of their time. They also realized that, at this point, very soon they wouldn't even have the numerical advantage.
- Overall, the US air forces preferred a hybrid of the two. In contrast to Japan (which had a very few natural talents and a lot of newbies), the Americans would ship the pilots who demonstrated the greatest skill back to the States to serve as trainers. As a result, they had a number of solid, but not outstanding pilots who could nonetheless outnumber the enemy aces and outfly the cannon fodder.
- The 1991 Gulf War produced one of the most extreme examples favorable to quality. On one side you had Saddam Hussein and his more than 1 million strong Iraqi military, the fourth largest in the world at that time. On the other, you had the U.S.-led Coalition which fielded about half that number, some 500,000 troops. One would think Saddam had a big advantage with a 2-1 numerical superiority. But as anyone familiar with history knows, Saddam was on the receiving end of one of the most epic Curb-Stomp Battle defeats in recent history as the Iraqis took 25,000 casualties while the Coalition only suffered about 230. Saddam's army may have been big but they were pitifully incompetent, to the point that some armored units wouldn't even react to fire they took from their flanks. Even their supposedly "elite" forces like the Republican Guard were obliterated rather easily. In contrast, the Coalition forces (especially the Americans) were far better trained and had access to the latest weapons, vehicles, etc. Thus illustrating an important but often forgotten lesson: you can raise a giant army, but it won't do any good if they don't know what their doing.
- The 1982 Falklands war can be seen in a similar light, and with a similar result. One one hand the British actually were not at a numerical disadvantage in anyway. However, there were moments where individual battles on the ground had British units come face to face with an Argentine force that was larger, and win. The Battle of Goose Green in particular had a British force attack a fortified Argentine garrison that had them outnumbered 3-1. It was a Curb-Stomp Battle for the Brits, because while the Argentines were mostly conscripts who were poorly trained, the Brits had one of the best trained and most powerful military forces on Earth.
- On the Korean peninsula, North Korea has the current fourth largest army in the world, while South Korea and their U.S. allies have about half that number. The South and America have much better training and equipment, and would seem to be pretty confident about their chances in a war, however so far it hasn't been tested yet. And let's all hope it never has to be. And it needs to be noted that things would get considerably more dicey should China ever enter a second war in Korea as they did with the first. In the Korean War, the United Nations coalition troops actually were on the verge of victory, having captured Pyongyang, the North's capital. Then China sent a gigantic horde of troops to push the allies back. In many battles, Chinese forces would sometimes suffer ten times the number of UN casualties, even in battles they won. However, because they were so numerous, they successfully pushed the U.N. forces back across the original North/South border. However, even then, China's "quantity" type strategy took it only so far as the U.N. was able to hold them at the border. The result was ultimately a stalemate. Today however, China is trying to increase the quality of it's troops while still having access to the world's largest population as a recruitment pool. Again, let's hope we never see what would happen in such a war.
- The Battle of Cannae:
- The forces of Hannibal were outnumbered by the roman legions, by almost 2 to 1. Hannibal instead decided to use greater tactics against the numerical advantage. Due to the fact that Roman command rotated when two consuls (their supreme commanders) were present, Hannibal took advantage of that cycle and drew in the roman legions on the day the hotheaded consul took charge (who thought his massive legions were enough to simply steamroll over Hannibal). Hannibal had placed his weakest troops in the center of his own formation (an inverted crescent), while his strongest troops on the edges. The Roman Consul took this as an opportunity to route the center of Hannibal's forces and cut the latter's army in two, before routing them. Instead, Hannibal had placed himself within the center formation, resulting in them not being completely curbstompped, but simply moving back. His outer forces did not budge however, and instead closed in the right-side crescent formation. His own cavalry then later closed what little gap there was left, and thus Hannibals much smaller army was now able to butcher the Romans at their leisure (some accounts describe that the space was so tight between the romans that many of them could not even raise a sword or shield to defend themselves). Cannae would be one of the first times in history that a larger army was defeated by a smaller one.
- Subverted by a small but crucial part of the armies: Hannibal's cavalry, including the elite Numidians, outnumbered their Roman counterparts (10,000 vs. 6,400), with the victory of the Numidians being crucial to the triumph. While the Numidians were high quality too (the best light cavalry of their time), Roman cavalry was equally good (in the Pyrrhic War they had repeatedly crushed Pyrrhus' Thessalians, until then considered the best heavy cavalry of the world), and only the combination of numerical superiority alongside Hannibal's instructions to avoid meelee allowed them the quick defeat of the Roman cavalry that made the overall victory possible.
- Later played straight when the Romans conquered Numidia: still proud of their performance under Hannibal first and Scipio later in the Second Punic War, and forgetting they had switched sides and were even a unified kingdom because Scipio had crushed the Numidians allied with Carthage, they thought they could win with ease, only to find out that even in its last days the outnumbered Roman cavalry could defeat the Numidians whenever the latter let the former close into meelee range (something that actually did happened multiple times).
- The idea of Capital Ships was central to this in naval warfare for a very long time. Due to being able to mount heavier armor and armament, a heavier warship (such as a Battleship) would always be at an advantage against an equal tonnage of smaller ships (such as cruisers). The introduction of newer weapons such as self-propelled torpedos, submarines, airplanes, and finally guided missiles caused the balance to change in favor of whoever could shoot the other first.
- Bruce Lee on dangerous martial arts opponents: "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."