Headscratchers / Breaking Bad

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     How did Walt poison Brock? 
  • It happened offscreen, so when would he have been able to do it, and how was he able to get close enough to Brock to get the poison to him?
    • Vince Gilligan admits this would be tricky, and might have involved putting it in his juice box.
    • Before Vince's explanation, I was on the lookout for hints of how Walt accomplished it. At one point, I think right before Hank and Gomez's deaths, Walt, in an attempt to have a casual chat, verbally remarks to Brock about his Froot Loops cereal and I thought maybe it was the cereal box he tampered with.

     Walter, Jesse, and Andrea 
  • During the scene in S 5 E 03 with Jesse and Walter on the couch enjoying a beer, was Walter purposefully manipulating Jesse into breaking up with Andrea? It's fair to say that that conversation is what prompts their break-up but it's always puzzled me whether Walter intentionally did it or not.
    • That was always my impression, yeah.

     Barrels and Barrels 
  • Is there any reason, other than dumb luck, why Hank, Gomie and Jesse knew exactly which barrel color and material to buy? It's very plausible that Walt overlooks the ground around it because of the adrenaline, how little attention people give to soil color, and the similarity between different samples of New Mexican desert soil, but if the barrels were metallic or blue or yellow, it would've been the kind of detail he'd immediately recognize and the jig would be up. It's also pretty clearly implied that Hank & Gomez's onscreen conversation with Huell (in which, IIRC, he gives no particulars on the barrels) is the only one they have, so is it just a Contrived Coincidence?
    • Huell actually does give them the size of the barrels and exactly which store he bought them from. Maybe they got lucky, and that particular store only happened to carry one color of barrel in that particular size. Or if it did become an issue, I'm sure they could have consulted with Huell off-screen. It's not like he wasn't available.
    • Huell says "plastic, black, 55 gallon type. I got 'em at Home Depot."
  • Speaking of which, where were those barrels when Jesse needed one to stuff Emilio's body in?
    • Odds are despite what he told Walt, Jesse didn't look took too hard for a barrel out of laziness.

     A Talk with Past Walt 
  • This is question kind of combines Headscratchers with Wild Mass Guessing: Knowing that Walt admitted he enjoyed making meth what advice would last episode Walt give to first episode Walt?
    • "Don't cook meth." Sure, it got him money for his family, but it also completely alienated them from him. I think he realized this in the last episode.
      • Actually, if anything, I'd say it would be the opposite. Something more along the lines of 'Cherish every minute.' meaning both with his family and with the meth. It's clear that Walter's choices caused him a lot of grief but, in the kitchen with Skyler, he really does seem to be saying he regretted none of it. For the first time in as long as he could remember, '(he) was alive.'
      • "Stay away from Gus." His repeated attempts to start and keep his business with Gus Fring were arguably the biggest contributors to his and his family's destruction.
    • Though, in the more practical realm, he'd probably warn himself not to call Uncle Jack when he's cornered by Hank and Jesse. Though it isn't given much attention in the show, I think it's fair to assume that Hank's death is among the things that caused him the most grief.
    • Or to get rid of the Leaves of Grass Gale gave him. Without that, Hank presumably never would have discovered he was Heisenberg.

     Mike's Death: Impulse or Premeditated? 
  • It's always puzzled me: Was Walter planning on killing Mike before he did so? I think the commonly accepted interpretation is that it was a mark of utter impulsivity and scorned hubris; showcasing just how far Walter has degraded from his former self but there are a few things I've noticed that might suggest otherwise.
    • First off, he shot Mike with the gun from his Go-Bag, which obviously meant he removed it before he confronted Mike. In my mind, there are three broad motives behind this: 1) He had no intention of killing Mike 2) He considered the possibility of killing Mike or 3) He was definitely planning on killing Mike. #1 seems the easiest to dispense with: It's possible Walter removed the gun because he feared for his safety when confronting Mike alone. But if this was the case, then why did he leave it in the car rather than have it on him? A gun is only as useful as it is accessible. The same line of reasoning can used to write #3 off since why would you leave yourself (temporarily) vulnerable to a man you knew you were going to kill. So, this leaves #2 as most likely by process of elimination. And this is my first piece of evidence: The fact that Walter considered the possibility of killing Mike before Mike had a chance to piss him off.
    • My second point is with regard to the end of the episode, "Hazard Pay". It always bothered me why exactly Walter decided to bring up Victor. The first time I watched it, I assumed it was just the writer's answer to a question that fans had been asking since Victor's death and on technical writing level, I still believe this was the core motivation for including it. However, from a narrative viewpoint, there can't not be significance in Walter saying he understands that Gus killed Victor 'for taking liberties that weren't his to take' immediately after the heated expenditure meeting between him, Jesse, and Mike. It has been established both in and out of the show that, in Season 5, Walter was beginning to think of himself as the New Gus. And if, in Walter's mind, he saw himself as Gus, then perhaps he saw Mike as Victor and the 'liberties' refer to the hazard pay that Walter loathed paying. At the very least, it seems possible that murdering Mike entered his mind then. And this, I say, will be my second piece of evidence.
    • It's with these two points in mind that their general relationship can be shaped around. It is well-established that Walter resents anyone who challenges his pride and by the first half of Season 5, the only two who do have the cajones to challenge it are Mike and Skyler. It does seem fully possible that Walter grew to loathe Mike through the course of their business dealings because he was, in a way, the last barrier to the peak of Walter's pride. And because so much of Walter's story can already be understood as a series of eventual triumphs over others toward full self-actualization, it remains more consistent with the theme to understand killing Mike as another one of those 'triumphs' rather than simple rash act.
    • And finally, there was Walter's insistence for the names from Mike during their confrontation. There doesn't appear to be any good reason for Walter to have those names other than the prison assassinations he later executed. From that, it seems likely that Walter was planning on the assassination as or before he asked Mike(possibly as early as the aforementioned expenditure meeting.) Yet, Walter must've known as well as everyone else that Mike would not stand for his men being shanked in prison. It seems very unlikely Walter would even consider the possibility of executing a plan and leaving a huge loose end like Mike in the mix. When Walter finally does execute the plan, in no way is the set-up presented as a 'well, Mike's dead now so I might as well.'
    • And it's with all this that I believe the most reasonable interpretation is that Walter had intentions of killing Mike before he met with him. Because the circumstances of their meeting were little more than shitluck, it doesn't seem very likely that Walter had this premeditated past the drive to see him. But nonetheless, I feel the trigger may have been pulled even had their meeting gone cordially.

     Scales 
  • How come no one tares their scales before measuring meth?
    • I got the impression that they did but it happened offscreen.

     Raisins 
  • Why in the hell was there a raisin in Gus's lab?
    • I remember Walt packed a lunch to the lab in some other episode..
      • For a professional chemist, he certainly has poor lab etiquette.
      • To be fair - it was probably Jesse's.
      • He did pack a lunch in "Sunset," the episode where Gale Boetticher was first introduced. I assume Walt probably was professional enough not to eat in the lab, or at the very least, set up an eating area that was far away from any equipment he was going to use for work.

     Hank's Promotion 
  • I don't get everything behind Hank's promotions. Yeah, he's done a lot of good at his job—taking care of Tuco and his cousins, suspecting Gus Fring when no one else did, even though he didn't really contribute much to taking him down—but he's also done a lot of not-so-good. However many drug dealers you catch, I feel like you don't get a big promotion so soon after you follow Jesse into his home to beat him up without a warrant. Hank was also acting really erratically before that, with the beating the random guy in the bar and whatnot, and while he was right about Gus, he was going about it in a way that is legally suspect, at the least; he got his civilian brother-in-law to drive him around so he can stalk people he's been told are no longer suspects. Hank has good intuition, but he's pretty awful at everything else. He doesn't even speak any Spanish, which seems like something a DEA agent in New Mexico should be able to do.
    • It might be a political thing-promote the hero who exposed a guy no one else even suspected? I think that's how he got put on the Juarez taskforce after Tuco's death, at least. And Jesse's refusal to go to trial against Hank also got him off the hook with internal affairs. Not speaking Spanish isn't a big handicap when 90% of his work is behind a desk and most Mexican police speak English, if anything it was a bigger problem when he was in the field.
    • I'm surprised he didn't have any mandatory counselling; he probably could have benefitted from it, especially after the Tortuga bomb.
    • What I'm wondering now is how Hank could possibly think it's a good idea to be alone in a room with Jesse when he's not even supposed to be there, with the expressed purpose of making Jesse angry.
    • Hank's behavior prior to beating up Jesse wasn't known to the DEA because Gomez was covering for him. Him beating Jesse to a pulp probably dropped off everyone's radar since Hank got shot right afterwards (and like stated previously, he was never officially charged; not to mention that it would be in poor taste to continue with the charges given the circumstances).
    • It was most likely an attempt to keep him under control, his boss even berates him for serving search warrants and "knocking down doors". ASAC is apparently a purely office job, and he's told to stop looking into the Fring case.

     Jesse's Loud Parties 
  • When Jesse is throwing those massive, loud, drug-fueled parties at his house, with presumably-under-21 year olds, where the hell are the cops? It's not like he lives in a bad neighborhood where that sort of thing happens every night or the cops are preoccupied with other thiings. He lives in a $200,000 house in what appears to be a nice, middle-class neighborhood. Not to mention his house was covered in graffiti and his lawn went to shit. He didn't even get so much as a single neighbor complaining. How did Jesse get away with throwing these loud raves night after night? Does he live next to a bunch of deaf people?
    • Huh...that's actually one hell of a good question.
    • Jessie still holds leverage over Hank, who, in turn, likely told the AQPD to give him a wide berth.
    • For what it's worth, Jessie's parents were selling it for $800,000, and were coerced into selling it to him for $400,000.
    • Maybe complaints were made, but he only had to pay fines. He sure as hell had the money to spare at that point. I guess it probably never went too much further or the police probably would have discovered something, which would be strange, but not incredibly unlikely IMO.
    • Music from Jesse's place is heard as distant and muddled even from outside his front door. Even if the neighbors could occasionally hear a bass thumping, unless their specifically bothered by the noise, they wouldn't have any reason to complain to the police. So my neighbor likes his music loud. Who cares? Only certain people would call the police for this unless they were being specifically aggravated, and there's no evidence that Jesse is bothering anyone.

     Castor beans 
  • Where does Walt get Castor beans? He doesn't have time to order them and they don't grow in the states. Where does he get them?
    • There are variants grown in North Texas.
    • The plant isn't grown commercially for oil in the US (it's a tropical plant), but it is grown as an ornamental/annual, even in places that get far colder than Albuquerque. It's entirely possible that a quick stop at a large home and garden store was all he needed.
    • He told a story about how old baby rattles contained the beans before people knew what you could make from them. This is probably where he got them, spotting an old rattle at a garage sale or something similiar.

     Asleep at the Wheel... Yoke... Whatever Planes Have 
  • Were the pilots of the two planes in ABQ all asleep? How does one not notice a plane coming towards your plane?
    • It's actually hardest to see a plane coming right for you - when you're looking at a plane nose-on as it is just a round thing with narrow flat parts coming out of it. Also aircraft travel at high speed so it doesn't leave a lot of reaction time. A real-life example would be the 1986 Cerritos mid-air collision - the aircraft were closing on each other at about 1100km/h (300m/s) and neither pilot was able to react in time to avoid a collision.
    • They also had confirmation from the control tower that they were both good to go. A controller saying that your flight path is clear is supposed to be the end all, be all for pilots. Even if they had automated warning systems or any sort of fail-safe, it's likely they would have disregarded them in favor of the controller's go-ahead.
      • Actually, airplanes have a system called Traffic Collision Avoidance System (TCAS) and it should override any directions from the air traffic controller should there be conflicting directions.
      • But that relies on the pilots reacting to it the right way. Remember the Uberlingen disaster of 2002 where a Boeing 757 and a Tupolev collided over Germany: the avoidance systems kicked in and advised to the collision; one pilot listened to the system and followed the suggested path, the other resorted to his instincts and made a judgement call for a different path, causing both to collide anyway.
      • The smaller plane would be unlikely to have the correct transponder type (modes C or S) that TCAS needs to work correctly.

     Blaming Walt for Brock 
  • When Brock is poisoned, why does Jesse immediately think that Walt did it? The more obvious conclusion, to me, was that Brock stole Jesse's "lucky cig" and smoked it.
    • Jesse knew he had it AFTER seeing Brock for the last time, because he swapped it out to a new pack. He says so when he confronts Walt. Walt even suggests perhaps Brock got it somehow. And because only Walt knows it exists and where.
    • If Andrea is a smoker too, she's probably told Brock many times to keep his hands off other people's smokes. Jesse would know this, so he wouldn't assume Brock stole his poisoned cigarette. As far as Jesse knows he and Walt are the only ones who know about the ricin. So the only logical possibility is that Walt stole it somehow and poisoned Brock to punish Jesse.
    • It's also never established if smoking the cigarette with the ricin capsule in it would even allow the poison to enter the smoker's system. The show presents it more so that one would need to apply the poison in food, which would take planning.
      • Ricin is effective if inhaled (as dust), but it's also a protein, and those tend to denature (and therefore become inactive) and even decompose at much lower temperatures than are required to vaporize them. Whether Jesse would have known this or not is questionable, but it's certainly possible that Walt and Jesse had a discussion offscreen in which Walt pointed out explicitly they needed for Tuco to snort or eat the ricin, not smoke it.
      • You say "never established" but Walt warns Jesse when he first rolls the cigarette, "Just don't smoke it." I think we can take Walt's word for it that might be a bad idea.
      • Since the ricin's in a little glass vial I imagine all that would happen is the vial would fall out on the floor once the cigarette burned down so much, whereupon Jesse would go "Derp, I wasn't meant to smoke this one", & someone else would wonder who was trying so incompetently to assassinate them. I think Walt's line was more a joke than anything else.
    • Why would Jesse immediately think Walt did it? Because he has already seen that Walt has the skill to make and the guts to give people poison. Suddenly Brock is "sick", so naturally Jesse's first suspect would be the guy he watched put poison in Tuco's food.

     Walt's Pride and Charity 
  • "Skyler, it's charity." "Why do you say that like it's some dirty word?" That's an excellent question: Why does Walt say that like it's dirty word? I admit I've met people who were too prideful to accept charity but only when their money troubles were somehow their fault (bad investments, a gambling problem, whatever). But Walt's cancer and subsequent medical bills aren't his fault at all. So why does he have so much trouble accepting even the slightest bit of help? (Full disclosure: I'm still finishing up season 2 right now so if it's been explained since then I apologize.)
    • Pride. That's Walter's personality in a nutshell. He has an insane pride, and he feels weak if he can't be self-sufficient. Skyler implies at one point that he was raised that way, and of course the fact that he's never really lived to his full potential (with his chemistry skills, he could have done a lot better than being a high school chemistry teacher) has made his ego easily-bruised. The idea of taking money from his former partner, his falling out with whom caused his current financial condition, is like salt in his wound.
    • Walt's tragic flaw is very much his pride. This becomes more and more obvious as the series continues. His breakup with Gretchen, the fallout with Schwartz, his refusal of their money, and his decision to cook meth are all these impotent attempts to wrest control of his life from an indifferent universe. He's always felt put-upon and bitter. There's always been this feeling, boiling just beneath the surface, that the world owes him something. And then he got cancer.
    • Because he's already making way more on meth and doesn't want people to have to sacrifice for no reason?
    • Some of this is personal: Gretchen and Elliot bought out Walt's shares in Grey Matter when it was a small startup and he feels like they cheated him out of millions. This isn't just charity, it's money that Walt feels is rightfully his-taking their money means he either the buyout was fair or he has to take his own money and let everyone think it was a gift from Gretchen and Elliot.
      • Of course, that's exactly what he's doing with his meth money anyway.
    • Walter's really obsessed with the idea of being the provider for his family. Look at his objections to Saul's plan to launder the money through Walt Jr.'s website; he doesn't even want his family thinking that the money is from strangers, he wants them to know that he is the big man and he has it all taken care of.

     Timeline Troubles 
  • The series starts with Walts 50th birthday on September 7th, 2009. In season 5, Walt turns 51, making it September, 2010. 4 episodes later (approximately september 9th, 2010), one of the gang members Walt hired complains that "whacking Bin Laden wasn't this complicated" - an event that would happen more than 7 months in the future to them.
    • Writers Cannot Do Math.
    • The episode was supposed to be set in 2010, Vince Gilligan admits the line was a mistake.
      • A mistake in writing. Though you could fan wank it and say the gang member is one of those conspiracy theorists that believes Bin Laden was taken out before then.

     More Brock Questions 
  • Okay, so in the season 4 finale we find out Brock was poisoned by much less lethal Lily of the Valley berries instead of ricin. Walt conveniently happens to own this species of plant. I'm guessing Walt was still the one who made the ricin cigarette disappear so Jesse would assume that was the source of Brock's sickness and he could turn it around and blame Gus. Now, between Gus constantly watching Walt, Walt being driven to paranoid insanity over getting his family killed, and Walt being terrified to leave his house, how the HELL did he actually do it? How was he logistically able to get the berries from the plant beside his pool (Point A) to Brock's mouth (Point B) in the window of a few hours while remaining completely transparent and not even having a plan before that morning?
    • Saul and his mooks. They had direct access to Andrea and her kid, since Saul was giving her the money from Jesse himself. Saul is VERY eager to give Jesse his share, even though Jesse is in no real danger. Sure, Saul was in a hurry, but it didn't stop him from meeting with both Jesse and Walt in the finale. Also, pay attention to Huell when he pats down Pinkman - it looks like he hides something in his pocket.
    • This is proven correct. Huell did indeed steal the ricin from Jesse. Jesse realizes this when Huell steals something else from him in a later episode, as he understands that he pulled this same "bump and snatch" trick before...
      • the mooks have been consistently developed as nothing beyond bumbling, incompetent comic relief before this event. Yeah, they helped Walt and Skyler get the car wash, but Skyler was the one who did most of the work there. Did these same goons manage to flawlessly pull off Walt's improvised master plan in a split second of time between episodes 11 and 12?
      • They may not be smart, but Saul is. He's been giving candy to Brock, too. And there was time - it's been at least a couple of hours between Walt's Russian roulette and Jesse getting the phone call from Andrea. Besides, these guys are stupid: the only real time they screwed up was when Ted got crippled, but in that situation would Gus Fring expect Ted to act like such a fucking moron?
      • But, why would Saul help out Walt? The episode before Saul had to be begged by Walt to make a phone call yet Walt talked him into poisining a kid he has previously showed affection for. Also, this plan doesn't fit Saul's usual motivation of self preservation.
      • He's a paranoid crook. And Walt's plan fits his motivations perfectly - Gus could easily consider him a loose end, especially after Walt's disappearance plan failed. Also, he's helping in a perfect opportunity to create a power vacuum in the meth business, and Saul's greedy enough to think of becoming Walt's Tom.
      • Not to mention that Saul was more worried about Gus finding out he called the DEA on him then actually making the call for Walt, once Walt says he doesn't have to mention Gus at all then he has no problem doing it.
      • The answer is that they didn't execute the WHOLE poisoning phase of the master plan. They palmed the ricin cigarette and that was it. Walt was the one who found Brock and gave him Lily of the Valley hidden in something, probably candy or chocolate. There were some pretty well-sized chunks of time he spent offscreen when he could have done this. If you don't believe it, check out the focused, almost fearful way that Brock eyes Walt when he visits Andrea's house in late season 5.
    • Why do people consider this part of the plan some kind of incredible coup? All right, yeah, a lot of the stuff having to do with Jesse and Hector were insane masterstrokes, but come on. Getting a six-year-old to eat something? Anybody over the age of 13 could pull that off, no problem.
      • You have to remember it's poison. Maybe anyone could, the remarkable thing is that Walt would.
      • Remarkable as this may be, it doesn't really have to do with the question at hand of how he could do that.
    • There is a small reference to this early in season 5 that vaguely confirms that Saul helped, though there's never any explanation besides Saul saying something like " I didn't know the kid would end up in the hospital." Basically we have to assume it somehow, since the show never explicitly tells us. Something that probably should have been done in a flashback in season 5 (we see a relatively trivial flashback about how Jesse squanders money for the RV at a strip club, yet the show skimps on a major plot/character development point in the season 4 finale?) It's done for dramatic delivery of the twist at the end of the episode, but that's still a somewhat weak excuse.
      • It actually seems more likely that Saul didn't help in the actual poisoning of Brock, since he seems disgusted with Walter when he talks about having lifted the ricin cigarette off Jesse, and when Jesse storms into his office and attacks him, Saul tells him point blank that he would never have done it if he'd known what Walter was planning. For all that Saul bends the truth and minces words, he rarely outright lies to Jesse or Walter, and Jesse at that point was so angry he was nearly impossible to talk down, even for master manipulator Heisenberg - the fact that Jesse was able to stop himself from attacking Saul any further is a pretty good confirmation that he was being truthful, because even though Saul is manipulative in his own right, he wouldn't have been able to lie his way out of that one.

     Gus' Organizations 
  • How exactly does Gus's organization work? How does he have time to micromanage his fast food restaurant while also running a massive drug operation? How does he run a massive drug organization with what appears to be only two lieutenants- Mike and a random easily-replaced guy? How can Mike have the time to be a "cleaner" and a private investigator for Saul, respectively, if he's also doing all this work for Gus? How can the other guy have time to watch Walt and Jesse all the time they're at work, and Jesse long enough to figure out exactly which of his houseguests stole all his money, since he seems to be Gus' #2 guy? Why does Gus personally negotiate a dispute between a low-level drug crew and Jesse and Walt if he's so high up that barely anybody actually knows him? Given all these apparent limitations on his organization, how does he go up against the freaking Mexican Cartels and win?
    • To be fair, Mike was a cleaner before Gus got the meth lab running. We now see him being Gus's lieutenant full time.
    • Maybe this weird, small, tiny crew working inside legal boundaries (the laundry, Los Pollos Hermanos) is the reason why this operation works out. And Gus' settling the dispute between Jesse and the two drug dealers makes sense, coming how he wants to give the vibe of a Benevolent Boss all the time. Also, this dispute is crucial - if a lackey of his makes a mistake, it could cost him Walt, his Golden Goose.
      • His organization was never that large to begin with. After S4, we see all of Gus's soldiers arrested in jail or in hiding. There was maybe 10 people, it's implied it was small, but, huge and most the workers were illegal immigrants.
    • Also, real-life criminal organizations aren't huge either. They consist of more or less the same amount of people that Gus has hired, for the same reason Gus had; the smaller the number of independent thinking minds you have, the easier it is to maintain control and the less of a chance someone going to rat. This explains why even though Mike is Gus's lieutenant, he still does a lot of mundane missions like dead-drops, in addition to escorting drug-carrying fry batter and other tasks. It's logical to assume that the rest of his henchmen also had many duties on top of being just muscle.
    • Actually, we see a lot of Gus's organization; the inspectors and packagers who prepare the meth once Walt and Jesse finish making it, the trucks that distribute it throughout the country inside buckets of batter, the street-level slingers, the drops where Gus's sellers leave the payments they received. Add Madrigal to the equation and we know where the chemicals come from.
    Gus's Organization part II 
  • So, we see a considerable portion of Gus's organization, AKA all the people mentioned in the previous folder. But that doesn't explain, how did the meth actually get from the Los Pollos Hermanos franchises to the dealers? Does Gus have a single person in each restaurant who extracts the meth and distributes it? What happens if there's a fire, or if he gets stopped by the cops on his way to a delivery?

     Hank's Stakeout 
  • In season 3, where Hank starts staking out Jesse's house, why doesn't Hank just show the picture of Jesse to that girl from the gas station? If he gets a positive ID, then he has enough to get a warrant and search Jesse's house.
    • It does not work that way. That picture isn't enough for a positive ID. That's why the police have lineups. Hank couldn't get a positive ID without tipping Jesse off. And that wouldn't be enough to convict him. MAYBE they could get charges of selling meth to stick (maybe with help from that cop who happened to be at the gas station), but not for production. Hank needs to connect Jesse to the RV, and he can't do that if Jesse knows he's being watched. Also, a photo lineup would be just as useless. You need much more than just a static 2D visual. That's why TV cops are always telling each person to move forward (to identify gait or body language) and say something the witness heard them say (voice, pronunciation, etc).
    • I think there was a deleted scene where Hank tried to get Merkert to sign off on a wiretap on Jesse's phone, and it was brought up that the girl from the gas station WAS shown the photo of Jesse and had a 75-85% certainty it was the same guy. Merkert told him that no judge would sign off on it and that was the end of that.
    • Was it really Hank's goal to get into the house? That would give any surprise aspect away. The evidence Hank needed was in the RV, not inside the house. By doing what he did, just staking out his house, seeing who comes/goes, then following Jesse discretely, led Hank right to the RV, which is what he wanted. I think the problem after the fact that Hank ran into was that Junkyard Joe knew a little too much about warrants for private domiciles. In hindsight, I'd argue that if Hank wanted to do it right, once he got to the junkyard and saw the RV, he should have called in for assistance and pursued a warrant first, then tried his intimidation tactic, rather than the reverse.

     Jesse and Badger 
  • So Jesse leaves Badger in the desert after an argument and fight. Then after Jesse and Walter escape from Tuco, Jesse is all of a sudden hiding out with Badger? What gives???
    • Badger isn't really smart. Like, at all. We're talking about a guy who starts humping a canister of P 2 P. And he does call Jesse out that he was left in the desert, so he could have some slack cut here.
    • Friends fight. Friends make up. It happens. Badger doesn't strike me as the kind to hold grudges. I mean, we're talking about the same guy who clearly noticed that a drug deal he was about to make was a set up for a police sting but still went through with it.

     Why Doesn't Gus Just Kill Him? 
  • So, why doesn't Gus just kill Walter, cut his losses and replace him already? Walt's reasoning is supposedly, with Gale dead, no one else can cook as high-quality meth as he can, but why exactly does Gus need 99% pure meth? Wouldn't Gus rather have an inferior cook that does what he's told instead of a loose cannon master chef who has this history of causing trouble for him? His customers are drug addicts, and probably used to much lower quality drugs. They're not going to stop buying because it's not premium quality.
    • Even if Gus really cares about the purity of the final product, it should be a non-issue; just repurify a lower-quality batch until it meets his standards. There'd be some loss involved, but he clearly doesn't have any problem getting the raw materials and they're cheap (if you can get them at all) compared to what he's paying Walt.
    • Explained in "Hermanos" in the flashback which showed a young Gus and Max pitching the idea of selling meth to the cartels. Max was a very good friend who is a talented biochemist. He probably stressed the importance of purity of the drug and he may sell only the best as to not disgrace his memory.]]
      • I rather suppose that he absolutely MUST meet his quota. As Jesse said, he has no Gale left, and the guy who knew how they cooked was seen at the crime scene, and not reliable enough if something went wrong on the chemistry-side of things.
      • Exactly. I forget the episode he said it in, but I think Gus said that because of the enormous overhead costs of his operation, he can't afford to stop production even for one day. Plus, given the occupational hazards of the drug world (loss of product due to police raids, or the need to pack up and get the hell out of Dodge if the police catch a whiff and close in) Gus probably needs some "cushion money" to stay safe and afloat.
    • The trouble of finding someone smart enough or experienced enough to handle the superlab, but who's willing to break the law. Ordinary meth cooks don't know enough chem to run things smoothly, and most chemistry experts aren't criminals. Remember, Gale wasn't just some guy Gus recruited off the streets, he knew him through that scholarship thing. And Gus' meth needs to be a certain quality for the operation to be effective, his superior product allows him to charge more and gives him an edge over the competition.
    • The same reason Walter wouldn't cook with a fly in the lab.
    • It's revealed in late Season 4 that Gus was originally planning to have Walt come to Mexico to cook for Don Eladio's cartel (ultimately having to use Jesse instead because of the blowout between Walt and Gus), thereby smoothing relations between Gus and Don Eladio enough for Gus to get close to him. That way he gets to enact his revenge-by-poison plan that we see in "Salud." Having the purest possible meth is key to this plan; it's very likely that if Jesse hadn't been able to cook meth at such a level of purity, the cartel would have entirely dismissed Gus (or would not have invited him to their base at all). It's also a form of triumph for Gus to be able to come back so many years later with the knowledge that not only has meth become increasingly more relevant than cocaine, but that he can still provide better quality meth than Don Eladio can. So I'd say that Gus actually does need the highest quality meth to ensure all of his plans will come to fruition, and it's not just a matter of preference.

     Wouldn't Jesse Object to Gus' Plans? 
  • So, Gus is planning on killing Walter's family if he attempts to interfere in his plans to kill Hank, and he just assumes that Jesse's going to be ok with this? The guy who was planned on getting himself killed to avenge a child's death is just going to be cool with Gus offing an innocent women, a teenager, and an infant?
    • We don't know that Gus told Jesse the part about killing Walt's family.
      • In fact, we now know that he didn't tell Jesse about that, since Jesse had to hear about it from Saul.
    • It's possible that he was only bluffing to keep Walter in line. In season 3, Gus is highly offended when Walter suggests he may have had a hand in the murder of a child.
    • Okay, he didn't tell Jesse, but still, he couldn't do it. If Walt's family was suddenly wiped out, Jesse would probably figure out that Gus was behind it. He must have been bluffing.
      • He was probably planning on killing Jesse, too, as soon as he could afford to. He had just manipulated Jesse into revealing Walter's formula and method in Mexico.
      • However, the only survivors from that incident were non-chemists, and they would probably have to teach ANOTHER non-chemist without the benefit of another chemist training him. So, a brilliant chemist teaches a talented amateur, whose formula gets sorta copied by non-chemists, who then teach it to maybe another talented amateur. At that point, the purity has declined so much with each successive imitation, it will only be marginally better than the Chili P crap Jesse sold at the beginning.

     Gus' Operation Pre-Walt 
  • What was Gus doing before Walt? He clearly had plenty of money, a distribution network, a chain of Los Pollos Hermanos, and was constructing the lab with the intent of having it run by Gale, but how did he get it to that point? Was Gale working for Gus for a lot longer? It seemed that Gale was going to start working for him, but Walt came in instead and pushed Gale down the ladder.
    • Gus tells the cops (Hank, Gomez, Merkert and Roberts) that Gale was an aspiring chemist and Gus had financed his education. So yes, they went way back.
    • It's implied that when we first met Gus, he is working with the Mexican cartels only as a distributor within the US. As deduced by Walt, Gus's plans are to build his own superlab in Albuquerque, then sever all ties with the cartel and get the DEA to go to war with them, which explains why Gus redirects the Cousins to attack Hank. And he tips off Hank because he wanted there to be a shootout, causing bloodshed on both sides of the law, and gets the authorities to crack down on the cartel. In doing this, Gus then gets to control production AND distribution and eliminate his main competition.

     Gus' and Walt's Conflict 
  • The whole conflict between Gus and Walt bothers me. I mean, yes, Walt killed a couple of his dealers, but there were extenuating circumstances. Gus is nothing if not patient. This is a man who saw his best friend murdered in front of him and waited twenty years to take revenge. But he feels the need to kill his best cook over the lives of a couple of street dealers who presumably mean nothing to him? And okay, I can see the need to get rid of unstable and disloyal elements in his organization, especially after Gale's murder. But then why does he try to replace Walt with Jesse? Jesse, who defines the word unstable, who was responsible for the whole thing with the dealers, and who actually shot Gale? Seems to me that Gus should have just forgiven Walt a long time ago and this whole mess wouldn't have happened.
    • Gus wasn't just angry over Walt killing two lowlife dealers. Walt's actions created a grotesque murder scene and left bodies Mike had to spend the entire night cleaning up. Leaving bodies in a public place jeopardizes Gus's entire operation, making Walt a HUGE liability. Just look at how Gus reacted to Victor letting himself be seen in Season 4. Also, he recruits Jesse because Jesse can basically create Walt's product while still being younger, stupider, and more malleable than Walt. With Walt, all Gus sees is a man who is far too close to being his intellectual equal to ever be trained into serving under him.
    • Also, "Half-Measures" make it clear Walter and Jesse are loyal only to themselves, not to their employer. Jesse was already an unstable element Gus allowed only out of respect for Walt and out of necessity. Gus was already dependent on Walt, letting this slide would give Walter a big mental advantage. Hell, trying to punish it STILL did that: just see how Walt acts in season 4 - he's both paranoid about his life and on a power binge after winning the battle with Gus. There was no way to control him anymore.
    • I dunno, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. OK, so here's the situation: Jesse wants to kill two low-level dealers who killed his friend, especially because they used a child. Walt rats him out to Gus (so that should be in Walt's favor). Gus calls a meeting, sternly admonishing the two who used the child, telling them to cut it out. They kill the kid, Jesse tries to kill them but Walt does it first. Why does Gus care about this so much? Either 1) the two low-level dealers disobeyed him in killing the kid (so they're at least as unreliable as Walt and Jesse), or 2) he ordered the death of the kid (which considering Season 4 seems more likely, but didn't at the time, to either the characters or us). Only in scenario 2 does it make sense for him to get angry at Walt and Jesse, BUT even then why wouldn't he just lie and say "Uh, hey guys, thanks for taking out those two dudes who totally disobeyed me and weren't supposed to do that, now get back to making me hundreds of millions of dollars"? Seems MUCH easier and more sensible for Gus, especially after he just made a big deal about being offended that Walt would dare suggest he ordered the death of a child. Things go back to how they were, with everyone content and making money—no dead Gale, no Hank on the trail, no dead Victor. Hell, no dead Gus. But that isn't just a mistake in hindsight—I don't think it made any sense at the time. Why was Walt's reaction after killing the two guys "run"? Shouldn't it have been "run...to Gus to tell him we killed two guys who disobeyed him and murdered a child"?
    • Walt and Jesse are Gus' cooks, not his assassins. Having them go off on their own to kill these two guys is not their job and it's a huge threat to his organization because they did it in such a public way. The killing proved to Gus that Jesse and Walt can't be trusted not to do something incredibly reckless and dangerous when they feel justified, and that makes them a liability. Also, Gus didn't order the death of the kid. He only said "No more children" in the scene, and the two idiots misinterpreted him.
    • True, but if Gus didn't order the death of Tomas (assuming that Tomas's death was done under orders), then his killing (a very public child murder) is way worse than what Jesse was planning on doing or what Walt eventually did (a pretty public gang shooting, which is probably relatively routine for the Chicken Man's organization considering how much turf he controls). Considering that this was the first time Walt (or even Jesse) had ever done something like that, and the unique circumstances—Jesse's new girlfriend Andrea's brother is the one murdered—it just doesn't make sense for Gus to immediately decide that Walt and Jesse need to go. Maybe he decides that they're too unpredictable (though I'd think getting rid of them would be riskier), but if so the obvious thing to do is pretend to forgive Walt and Jesse and get rid of them later down the line. Gus all but announces that he's going to off Jesse and Walt immediately after they take care of a huge problem for him, albeit one that they weren't supposed to solve.
    • Gus is mad at them because the very last orders he gave to Jesse and Walt were to leave well enough alone and let him handle it from here on out. In fact, Mike had already told Jesse that they were sparing his life in the first place as a favor to Walter. You do not kill a drug lord's dealers: as soon as somebody kills his dealers and gets away with it, it's open season on his men from anyone who wants a piece of his turf, because he's proven he won't defend them. Gus orders everybody to play nice and let him handle things, and the very next evening Jesse and Walt have killed those dealers even though they gave Gus their word that they would never even speak to them again. They've proven themselves both capable of violence and disobedient; Gus cannot afford to abide that.
    • Gus is supposed to be so cautious and yet these street-level dealers (or at most a half-step up from that) not only know who he is but meet with him personally? Either there's more to them than meets the eye, or Gus' vaunted caution is an Informed Ability.
    • How exactly did Jesse fare so much better than Walt with Gus and Mike, when both killed the two low-level dealers and Gale. If anything, Jesse is the trigger that drags Walt into it, since Walt gets involved just to save Jesse from the shootout. Jesse is the impulsive meth-head that Gus and Mike both wanted Walt to write off before this, and no matter how loyal, clever, and useful Jesse can be while sober, he will always be an impulsive, unpredictable, meth-head at his core. It was also Jesse that stole from the superlab and wasn't happy with their very generous pay package, not Walt. I understand Gus and Mike having their issues with Walt; what I don't understand is how Jesse gets off nearly scott-free with them, especially when Jesse was seen as the problem and Walt's trigger before. I'll buy into the idea that Gus chose to build up Jesse's trust while moving him away from Walt, in order to subvert the bond between the two. I'll also buy into taking Jesse to Mexico, because his 96% cook is still good enough for Gus' plans there, and he is more expendable. What I don't get is how Gus breaks his no-addicts rule, and allows Jesse to get genuinely close to the hearts and safety of Gus, Mike, and the organisation, while all the while dumping the blame on Walt only. Gus and Mike seem like perfect pros, carfully planning and building for 20 years. Why not just keep Jesse busy (and away from Walt) while at the same time giving Walt a chance to clear the air and give Walt some monkey-help like those cleaning girls (with no hope of understanding, let alone copying the formulea), which is all he really needs. If Walt felt he and his family were safe, he would never have plotted to kill Gus (or Gale), and he probably would have kept on making 99.1 pure Blue Sky until the end of time (or cancer). I always felt Gus and Walt were both cold blooded reptiles (no offense to reptiles), but they were both interested in a stable profit, and it would have been in both of their interests to work it out amicably and realize that Jesse was the true unstable trigger that just needed to be kept busy and important elsewhere in the organization. If Gus and Mike had some fatal flaw (like Walt's pride and ego) that would cause them to blame only Walt for the transgressions or to declare him alone to be unredeemable or expendable (and not Jesse), in order to move the story forward, then I felt that was never clearly fleshed out. Also, if the plan was to divide and conquer, first getting Jesse to allow Walt's death, but then eventually planning to replace Jesse as well, once a new Gale-like cook was trained, that was never fleshed out either. If anything, Gus and Mike acquire a genuine fondness for Jesse that prompts them to take risks, yet they fail to see that Walt was just doing the exact same thing with Jesse. Even Mike continues to lay all the blame on Walt (post-Gus), conveniently forgetting that Jesse was in on it too, and so was Gus and his goons in the way they terrorized, intimidated, bullied, and planned to kill Walt. How did Mike seriously expect Walt to react, other than to try and save Jesse's life (in the shootout), and to protect himself, once it became clear that Gus planned to murder him (Walt), and in the meantime make the cook as difficult as possible without the needed help in the lab, which is also in no one's best interests. It all left me headscratching how Mike and Gus got to that point with Walt alone, and not Jesse.
    • My fridge brilliant moment was that the dealers must be Gus's kids.

     Cousins' Motives 
  • Season 3 questions regarding the motives of Tuco's Cousins Okay, so I'm just watching this through now and I don't speak spanish so I'm missing a lot of Season 3 dialogue - but why are Tuco's cousins so gungho about killing Walt, and only go after Hank when Gus says they can't kill Walt (at least, I think that's what's going on, again, no subtitles on Spanish dialogue). Tio knows Hank killed Tuco (That's why Tio wouldn't help Hank put away Jesse). Yes Walt did try to poison Tuco (and failed), but Hank is the one that killed him, yet it seems like revenge on Hank is an after thought or a substitute for killing Walt. What gives?
    • The cousins originally thought it was Walt (Heisenberg) who had killed Tuco. What Gus told them was that it was actually Hank who had done the deed, which was the truth. This made them shift their anger and resolve towards Hank.
    • Remember The Godfather, when Michael Corleone carried out a hit on a corrupt police captain who happened to be in the pocket of a rival mob boss? In doing so, he had to break a longtime creed of the Mafia to never harm a police officer, and they made a very big deal out of the consequences of breaking this creed. It's applicable here too: Hank is a DEA agent. Killing a government official or law enforcement means a LOT of trouble for organized criminals, because usually the cops will respond with a large crackdown on the organization. The cousins didn't have permission from the Cartel to kill Hank, so they went after the next best target. Gus told them that they were operating in his territory, and that he was willing to give them permission to kill Hank if they laid off Walt. But it turns out that Gus had ulterior motives since he then tipped Hank off one minute before the attack: if Hank dies, the cops crack down on the cartel and Gus can corner the market for himself. If Hank lives, a similar outcome happens.
      • Take into account that Tuco's death took place outside, and Hector only heard what was happening. Walter admitted that they'd tried to poison him, then there was a struggle outside, and the gunshot produced by Jesse shooting Tuco in the abdomen. Then Hank pulled up and there were a lot more gunshots as the two fired away at each other, then a pause from them both ducking down to reload, then the single shot of Hank headshotting Tuco. Because it's entirely possible that the bullet wound that Jesse put in Tuco's abdomen may have eventually proven fatal on its own (provided he didn't get to a hospital) before Hank showed up, it's hard to say whether Jesse or Hank is more responsible for Tuco's death.

     Mouth-to-Mouth 
  • In season 2 Tuco beats No-Doze so hard he starts convulsing and has no pulse. Tuco tells "Heisenberg" to "breath into his mouth" (perform mouth-to-mouth resuscitation) but Walt refuses, saying "they don't teach that anymore, it doesn't work". Uh, what? Because they taught it to me when I got my CPR certification.
    • He's lying because he doesn't want to do it. Also, I don't think mouth-to-mouth is going to fix someone who's been beaten to death.
    • That's the part I was unsure about. I thought he might have been lying, but why? Why not just say "it won't work"? Or even "I'm a chemist, not a doctor"? But instead he makes up a very specific lie that mouth-to-mouth resuscitation doesn't work and isn't taught anymore.
    • It IS taught, but you're also taught not to do it unless you have the right mask, otherwise you're just asking to catch something deadly. So it's really a lie by omission more than anything.
      • There is some truth to it. CPR isn't taught as much as it used to be, primarily because of how ineffective it is and how dangerous it can be to perform.
    • I've heard that they don't do mouth-to-mouth in CPR anymore. If it's untrue, then it might simply be an urban legend getting repeated as fact.
    • It's one of those last ditch things that they prefer not to do. Emergency responders are prepared for intubation, basically the same thing but without the possibility of catching hepatitis. Some docs complain that it used to be a rite of passage for a patient to vomit in your mouth.
      • There is an element of truth to it, depending on how up to date you are. So-called 'rescue breaths' are no longer taught as they are deemed to be a waste of time. Instead you are now taught to go straight on to chest compressions, followed by breaths into the mouth (with, as said above, a special mask to prevent transmission of disease).
    • It actually is not taught anymore for most situations ([1]). Mouth-to-mouth is shown to be unneeded in many situations where hands-on CPR is just as fine, so now the Red Cross offers courses on being both Hands-only trained and full CPR trained. Getting a full CPR certification now features a section on when to and when not to use mouth-to-mouth.

     Gus' Professionalism 
  • If Gus is so concerned with caution and professionalism, why did he demand Walt have the meth within an hour when he made the first deal? That's just inviting in sloppiness that could draw attention to them for no real reason. It doesn't prove Walt is loyal or competent. It might have proven Walt was eager to do what it takes, but it was shown earlier that Gus values professionalism over eagerness by a long shot. It's possible that Gus' lieutenant set up the deal without bothering to tell Gus specific details, but it's still basically the same problem since Gus shouldn't have people like that in his organization. Besides, Gus knew in advance how good Walt's meth was, he shouldn't have delegated the first deal to someone lower down in any case.
    • Because Gus doesn't really want to work with Walt. It's a test. He only really got around the idea of hiring Walter for reals when Gale kept prodding and prodding about Heisenberg during the superlab set-up.
    • First, we don't know if the time demand was inheirant to Gus's deal or if Victor just said that to mess with Walt. Either way, it's a test how committed Walter is. Gus later states "you can never trust a drug addict" and complained that Walt's partner was both late and high for their initial meeting. Gus and Victor both have reasons to believe Walt's operation is less than optimal. This is a way of testing their commitment.

     Hector in ABQ 
  • How did Hector Salamanca end up in ABQ? He seemed to be based in Mexico. How did Gus find him in the nursing home?
    • Tuco's safehouse was on the north end of the border. Gus has a network of private detectives and associates in the Cartel that could've told him.
    • Hector did time in San Quentin in the 80s and 90s, so he was already in the United States before the series began.

     More Timeline Troubles 
  • I love the show, but I've noticed a strange timeline error. The show mainly takes place in the year 2008, with it having recently had the year turn to 2009. However, Jesse is shown playing Sonic and Sega All-Star Racing on multiple occasions. However, this game came out in 2010, so it doesn't make sense that Jesse would have access to it.
    • Chalk it up to slightly alternate timeline. :{dd
    • Same goes for the game Rage, which is even more recent (2011). I also wonder how well that '09 Dodge Challenger fits the timeline. One possible motive for anachronisms is promotional value. Both my examples are mentioned in the commentary as paid product placement — the show is expensive to make, so they seize these opportunities when they can.
      • The raid on Osama bin Laden's compound is also referenced in Season 5, which in real life took place in 2011.

     Gus' Idiot Ball 
  • Gus is smart enough to know to encrypt the incriminating surveillance records on his laptop, but still writes the account numbers down and hides it in a photo frame. So the only thing that can not only bite Gus in the ass, but the entire operation is left un-encrypted and ready to be found. Seems like a big Idiot Ball. Considering this was an insurance to keep other key members of his organization in line if they ever get incarcerated it's a pretty big one.
    • Hiding a small slip of paper in a photo frame is arguably more hidden than putting it in an encrypted file on a laptop. Any laptop encryption can be broken, and if Gus uses that laptop for web-surfing the possibility becomes even more likely. On the other hand, the only way a piece of paper hidden in a photo frame would be found is if someone knew where to look for it and they had access to the place where Gus keeps it.
      • If Gus had chosen a proper encryption algorithm, the decryption without knowing the pass-phrase would take a considerable amount of time (centuries at least). But even if you want to have the benefit of hiding an encrypted data storage, just buy a 1Gb micro-SD and hide that. It's even smaller than a piece of paper. If I'd be cooking meth and murdering people, I wouldn't leave anything plain text anywhere.
      • Any laptop encryption can be broken - sorry, that's absolutely false. AES 256 and several other easily-usable algorithms are considered completely unbreakable in any usefully short period of time, assuming the keys are never exposed (which doesn't count as "cracking the algorithm"). Even something as prosaic as a one-time pad with a random key stream is uncrackable.
    • And it works if he ever needs it quickly. Only he knows where it is and he could have quick access to it. And we don't know if he didn't have a backup or if it wasn't on the laptop - it's safe to assume that such a savvy man as Gus would have that information backed up in many ways.
      • This. Imagine a scenario where he had only a short time before the DEA were going to come in to bust him. He can fry the info on his hard drive- but he's going to need the numbers, both for himself and for the "retirement funds" he's set up for his top guys- which will keep them from talking.
    • It's a series of Cayman Islands accounts. Gus is wealthy through legitimate means, the police would probably think those accounts were Gus' way of dodging income taxes-sleazy but legal (or at least less illegal than drug-dealing; tax evasion is most likely fines and possibly time in a minimum security facility, distributing methamphetamine is RICO confiscation of everything and hard time in Federal Pound-You-In-The-Ass Prison) if they found out about them. Even if they did bust him for meth distribution, a personal photo would probably be left alone. It only wound up in evidence because he's dead, which gives the police way more discretion in searching his home & office.

     Skyler's Financial Knowledge 
  • Two things way back in season one. In an early episode, Skyler berates Walter for spending $15 to buy paper with a credit card that "we don't use". Why have a credit card if you don't use it? Secondly, she found out about that, but never found out about Walter draining all the money from their account to buy the RV?
    • In these types of scenarios, credit cards like that are usually for emergencies. I got nothing on the other one though.
      • People usually get bank statements monthly, so she probably wouldn't find out about it until then. By that time Walt would have enough money could replace it and come with an excuse for why he withdrew it. Not a perfect explanation, but it's a small enough issue that I'll be going with it.
      • The amount of time between episodes on this show is really vague, so he may have charged it the day before they mailed the statement.
      • Most banks automatically call the cardholder if there's suspicious activity and let the cardholder define "suspicious", so Skyler could have them call whenever the card is used. Albuquerque teacher pay sucks (and presumably it sucks in many parts of the country) and Skyler's writing career is floundering, so they can't afford the risk of someone fraudulently using that card. They might use it for emergencies, and a good credit score is required for many types of loans.
    • The credit union account is implied to be Walt's private savings account.
    • Depending on when they got the card, it could improve their credit score to keep it open, even if they don't use it. As for why they don't use it, it could be any number of things—high interest rate, fewer rewards, etc.
    • Early Installment Weirdness. Walt is later shown to keep extremely tight hold on the reigns of the family finances, which she shrugs off as "just one of those weird quirks" and/or "he probably doesn't want me looking at a constant reminder that he's accepting the Schwartz's charity" (that being his cover story at the time)... at least until enough other holes have been poked in his story that she gets suspicious.

     Jesse's Dirty Money 
  • How exactly is Jesse laundering his money? Unless I'm forgetting something, he rejected Saul's nail salon idea and we never heard anything past that, so as far as we know he is unemployed (on paper) but still has enough money to own his own home and pay bills without welfare. Wouldn't that arouse suspicion?
    • My thought: his parents are extremely well off and as the public perceives it, he got their house in a settlement along with some extra cash.
    • The house could be in Saul's name: His owning the house wouldn't be suspicious, and he could claim to be letting Jesse stay there for free. Jesse probably wouldn't care if the house was legally his.
    • The house may not be in Jesse's name- remember, his parents didn't know he was the buyer until after the deal was done. The check probably came from a "mortgage company" Saul set up. Plus, the government usually doesn't notice these sort of "income/outgo" disparities unless a person is already under investigation, or unless their income tax/property tax forms raise red flags. Since the whole series has taken place in about one year, it's unlikely anyone would have noticed anything yet- which is why setting up a money-laundering scheme would be important.

     Price and Bulk Discounts 
  • I was rewatching Season 2 and noticed something. After Walt encourages Jesse to expand his dealers' turf, he says they aren't charging enough and suggests they raise the price since they've cornered the market. Later on, after they cook the 40 pounds of meth in "4 Days Out," Walt asks Jesse how much they're charging and Jesse responds $40,000 a pound. Walt seems surprised at the high price and Jesse responds "You said raise the price." But wait a minute. When Jesse first started running his three man crew before any of that happened, he instructed them to sell for $2,500 an ounce. $2,500 an ounce is $40,000 a pound. So did Jesse raise the price or not?
    • That's by the ounce, not by the pound. It might be $2,500 an ounce and $30,000 for a pound for the bulk discount. At $2,500 ounces, they should be selling teenths at $150, but I vaguely remember a scene where a teenth was $300 or something. But yeah, drugs have price breaks at bulk.
    • I assumed that when Jesse said $40,000 a pound, he meant that he and Walt got $40,000 a pound after cutting the dealers in, meaning they each got $20,000 a pound. As it stood before, he and Walt got $16,000 a pound each.
    • Nope, this is a certified gaffe, people. It's all in the numbers. First, when Walt performs the calculations, he says, "$40,000 per pound, minus distribution charges", implying that the STREET price is $40,000/pound ($2500/ounce), not his and Jesse's cut. Second, Walt says he and Jesse each get $672,000 for their 42 pounds. That's $16,000/pound, or $1000/ounce, for each of them. So the street price is still $2500/ounce, and he and Jesse still get $2000 of that, split evenly between the two of them — exactly the pricing they had before Walt told Jesse to raise the prices.

     Walt's Insurance 
  • Don't most public school teachers get health insurance through their work? Insurance doesn't pay for everything, but I don't recall them saying that Walt got a dime from his own insurance.
    • Walt was going in for a special, more intensive treatment. Insurance companies don't like paying for terminal illnesses.
    • His health insurance would have paid for part of his treatment if he'd visited the (less skilled) doctors within his HMO network and stuck to only the (cheaper, less effective, less likely to work) treatment that his HMO covered. The copays would still have been steep, and the chances that it would all be a waste (the chances that he'd be paying all that money for a treatment that wouldn't actually work) would have been much higher. As it is, he went to a better doctor outside his HMO, and — as HMO's do when you visit a doctor outside their network — his HMO didn't cover it.
    • If you assume Walt is cooking meth ONLY for cancer treatments, this might be an issue. But cancer treatment is a gamble, no matter how good your oncologist. Marie and Skyler (coupled with the Schwartzes' money as Walt's alibi) talk Walt into seeking premium care. But he's as motivated to leave some money for his wife and kids behind (or more) as paying for treatment.

     Walter White's Work Woes 
  • So Walter White is a genius-level chemist, an absolute master of his craft, correct? Why is it, then, that he was unable to find better work after Greymatter than as a poorly paid High School chemistry teacher? He says himself that he is extraordinarily overqualified for his job and yet apparently never acted on that fact. Certainly a Chemist who has been recognized for work that won the Nobel prize would be able to find a more lucrative position in some chemical company than working in a public school, with part-time work at a car wash.
    • Walt was an underachiever before the start of the series. He spent his life doing work that was beneath him for people so much less intelligent than he was. That's part of why cooking meth was so intriguing. He was finally his own boss, doing something that only he can do.
    • Bad luck, pure and simple. Someone like Walt would normally lead a fulfilling and successful life, but due to a series of unfortunate circumstances he ended up stuck in a dead end job way below his qualifications and way below his pay grade. That, in addition to what the above troper said, is why Walt turned to crime. Deep down he feels the universe itself has conspired against him for decades, with lung cancer as the horrible rancid cherry on top of the shit sundae that is his life. So he feels morally justified in whatever he does.
    • Sooner or later, Walt fucks up everything because of his ego. He walked away from Gray Matter for what we can only assume was petty bullshit, and I seriously doubt that was the only time in his life he ever did something like that. He can't stand working with people who see themselves as his superiors or even his equals — not for long. He can't even deal with his family getting money from outside sources — he needs them to be dependent on him. Deep down inside, he stays with his teaching job because at least it gives him the satisfaction of knowing that he's smarter and more qualified than anyone he works with. He does better in the drug business than in legitimate business because in the drug business, the way that he naturally acts is more acceptable. If a chemist loses his shit over disrespect and demands that everyone acknowledge his superiority, he's insane — but a drug dealer who does that is just a drug dealer.
      • It's been implied in interviews with creators and such that Walt left Gray Matter (and Gretchen) because he couldn't handle Gretchen's family's extravagant lifestyle. Gretchen is some kind of trust fund baby from the sounds of things (not saying that she's not intelligent or has her own merits), and Walt was overwhelmed by the fact she's never really had to work for anything. Walt hates handouts, and much like how at the start of the series he and Skyler struggle to make ends meet, his family were incredibly poor growing up due to his father's Huntington's disease. He (probably) felt like staying with Gretchen would be marrying into a family of handouts and charity. This is mostly speculation though.
    • Walt worked at Los Alamos and Sandia, prestigious labs where many jobs require a PhD, after leaving Grey Matter but wound up leaving both for unknown reasons. Walt Jr. was born shortly after the move to Albuquerque, so he probably took a teaching job to avoid uprooting his family.
    • For what it's worth: I had a physics teacher in high school who was roughly as overqualified as Walt. In the summer he'd go do research with prestigious institutions on the East Coast, and the rest of the year he'd teach basic physics and astronomy to a bunch of jerkass high-schoolers in Arizona, one of the worst states in the U.S. in terms of teacher pay and benefits. He'd routinely butt heads with the school administration and taught those of us he considered his favorites some relatively subversive political ideas on the side, and he got away with it because he was also an excellent teacher, very popular with the students and most parents, and finding a qualified replacement who was willing to work for so little money would have been very difficult. Some people just like to be a big fish in a small pond.
    • Walt seems to be the kind of guy who eventually will fuck up every workplace situations. The extenuating circumstances and short life expectancy may explain the examples in the series, but the fact of the matter is such things as his making a move on Carmen and going 'deeeez nuuuts' on Bogdan are terribly unprofessional. Completely speculative, but he may have fucked up really badly (physical violence against a co-worker, for example) if he felt his boss/colleagues were stealing the credit for his work. The only way he could get a job after that was to get out of the chemistry research world, where it became a widely-known incident, and fake his references or apply to a place that he could get to hire him on the spot. High school teacher may have genuinely been the best job available. That being said, it really is a tough-to-explain Headscratcher, possibly so tough to explain the writers just gave up on it.
      • This makes a lot of sense especially in the context of the show's flashbacks. For instance, when we see Past Walt with Gretchen at Grey Matter or when he's house shopping with Skyler, he's very arrogant, acting a lot more like Heisenberg than the beaten down milquetoast we meet in the pilot episode. It's very easy to imagine that this arrogance not only cost him his job, but poisoned his reputation in his field—if word gets around that it's not worth the drama to hire him, his options are severely limited.
    • There is nothing unbelievable about this, it is actually one of the most realistic elements to the series. Walt is extremely skilled but lacks the social skills to negotiate the workplace. There are probably thousands of people in America and in the rest of the world who are as smart as Walt, but who can never make >$50k positions because of their egos/behavior/arrogance.

     Fulminated Mercury 
  • When Walter first meets Tuco, he uses a chemical compound to cause an explosion. An explosion that he sets off near his feet and is powerful enough to blow out all the windows in the room, yet it leaves Walter almost completely unharmed?
    • The compound was fulminated mercury. As for the event, chalk it up to Rule of Cool; fulminated mercury, while highly explosive, in such small amounts cannot produce enough force to kill a person. The effect on the building was a bit exaggerated but still cool as fuck.
    • Walt also threw the pellet across the room, not at his own feet. Quite possibly, it was much closer to the windows than humans, though the exact angle is not shown.

     Better in Texas 
  • During his interview with Hank, Mike mentions that he's licensed as a private investigator in "New Mexico, Utah, Arizona; every state where we operate." Hank brings up Colorado, but neither of them mention Texas. But if you go back to Season 3, the opening of "Kafkaeseque" is a Los Pollos Hermanos commercial which fades into a glimpse of the meth operations, specifically the meth being packaged and hidden in buckets of batter. Two of the shipments of batter are being sent to Lubbock and Brownfield, both of which are in Texas. Does Los Pollos Hermanos operate in Texas after all? (Texas does require a license to be a private investigator, so it seems unlikely that both Mike and Hank would forget to mention it.)
    • Hank was looking for any evidence of Mike's illegal or off-the-books work for Gus, and Mike was giving just enough information to shut Hank up and prove he wasn't breaking any laws. Hank realized the licensing question wasn't helping the case, so Texas didn't matter. So yeah, they are in Texas, it just didn't come up in the interview.
    • It might be a partial list of the states, simply omitting an "et cetera" at the end of the list. Your confusion probably would have been resolved if Mike's response to what states he was licensed as a PI in was just, "I'm licensed in every state that we do business in" without listing any states.

     Walt the Suspect 
  • It seems like Walter should have been at least suspected of something fairly early on. I understand why Hank wouldn't think his brother-in-law was up to something, but when a bunch of chemistry equipment goes missing, some very chemically pure meth turns up, a robbery is committed using a chemical compound, and this is all connected to the deaths of two major drug dealers. Not to mention that during the second drug dealer's death, Walter, the genius chemist with access to all this stuff, was missing for two days. Not to mention that Jesse was a major suspect in the Tuco case, and it is known that Jesse is an associate of Walter's. Somebody at the DEA should have at least been asking questions.
    • Hank has an idea of what a meth cook looks like before he investigates the chemistry equipment storage and Walt doesn't fit it, ditto for the parents. Hank also generally writes Walt off as book-smart but dumb at everything else. There are tons of chemists in this country, and even high-school dropout Jesse can turn out high purity meth. Jesse and Walt have alibis for the time they were with Tuco, and Hank thinks Jesse is too cowardly to be Tuco's killer. No one thought Walt's disappearance was drug related, so the APD and DEA would have no reason to talk. Skyler doesn't mention Jesse to the cops, and Hank probably doesn't care about the Jesse-Walt connection since it turned up jack. As far as the DEA knows, Emilio skipped out on bail and Krazy-8 is a missing informant, since their bodies were dissolved. Thermite is available from chemical supply stores and isn't tracked, you don't need to be a chemist to use that stuff. Hank is pushing the blue meth-Heisenberg case at the DEA harder than anyone else, so his biases are going to factor into the investigation.
    • The fact that Hank doesn't believe Walter when he bluntly states that the duffel bag contains $500,000 in the Season 3 premiere all but confirms this.
      • I think in that scene, Hank is just trying to humor his brother-in-law through the divorce.
    • Plus, even if they didn't focus in on Walt specifically, they still have a limited pool of suspects in the lab robbery due to no signs of forced entry. There should have been investigation for every one of those people with access, to the degree that discrepancies in how Walt was operating should have shown up.
      • I think it might partially be because Hank's killing Tuco and subsequent promotion and reassignment to the tri-state taskforce puts the chain of command for the investigation on hold, and by the time Hank is firmly reestablished as running the Heisenberg case there's a combination of the trail being assumed to be cold, and Hank's own distraction and uncertainty in his investigation.
    • Hank sees Walter as a mild-mannered underachiever who "who wouldn't know a criminal if he was close enough to check you for a hernia." Pick the dorkiest, gentlest person you personally know and imagine them as a ruthless drug lord. Hard to make that leap.
    • If none of that convinces you, it should be noted that Hank's actor Dean Norris confirmed almost all of these above points in an interview prior to the airing of season 5B. When asked why Hank didn't put two and two together earlier in time, he explained that it has to do with profiling. Because cops like Hank have limited time and resources to get their jobs done efficiently, they're going to focus on the likeliest bad guys. This doesn't always work, of course. Norris explained that, yes, Hank has this image in his mind of a drug kingpin, and it sure as hell ainít his milquetoast brother-in-law. Walt is Hank's blind spot because heís family and someone heís known a certain way for twenty years.
    • Rewatching the show, I actually think that Hank may have started having suspicions about Walt being Heisenberg as early as "Sunset" in season 3. Specifically because of the whole "Marie's been in an auto accident" hoax call meant to lure him away from the RV while Walt and Jesse destroyed it. Just look at the fire in his eyes when Hank realizes he's been duped. He's clearly thinking "Who else would have the information to even set up such a devious trick like this?" To me, Hank must have deduced that Jesse was working with someone who knew Marie's name and knew Hank's cell phone number (given that while beating Jesse up, he's shouting "You had my cell phone number! You had my wife's name! How did you do it?! Talk! Who are you working with?!"; which leads me to think Hank figures that the call wasn't coming from Jesse, but from an accomplice; an accomplice who obviously is someone Hank knows personally.) I don't think Hank is just upset about being duped, I think that he's pissed that he is starting to have suspicions that his own brother-in-law may have made the call (after all; it was Walt that Hank contacted when trying to figure out if Jesse owned an RV). However, beating Jesse unconscious and the subsequent Internal Affairs investigation, coupled with getting suspended, and of course getting shot by the Salamanca cousins, kept Hank from pursuing the possibility of Walt's involvement with Jesse any further. Then when he got out, he was busy first with the physical therapy, and subsequently was preoccupied with the investigation into Gus's drug empire. So subsequently, it wasn't until Hank found the copy of Leaves of Grass that he made the connection between Walt, Jesse, and Heisenberg.
    • All of the points above are valid, but consider this: if a family member of yours, no matter how meek, suddenly came into close to a million dollars, just imagine it, wouldn't you be the slightest bit suspicious about their card counting story? I mean at the least, Hank should have been curious to know if Walt's story was bullshit or not, and you'd expect Hank, as a sworn law enforcement officer, to maybe do one or two discreet checks to see if Walt's story checks out or not. With Walt being a family member, Hank should be even more curious. I mean, consider that Hank knew about the second cell phone back when Walt was kidnapped by Tuco. There are only 4 reasons why someone would have two cell phones in my mind: A) Their work has issued them with a phone. We know that can't be true, as teachers don't get issued with phones, B) They've recently just bought a new phone. Again, can't be true because Hank would know if Walt had a new phone, C) They are having an affair. Possible. Or D) they are a criminal. Again, possible. Oh, and remember when they stole the methylamine from the warehouse, Hank saw the CCTV, and even concluded when he saw them carrying the barrel, "So we're looking for 2 people who know their stuff, but don't have any street skills?" At that point, Hank knew they were looking for a chemist. Walt is a chemist, and an underachiever at that, with lots of money and is going missing all the time. I would think that, yeah, in real life, family biases or not, Hank would have figured out Walt's secret a lot earlier.

     To Trap a Badger 
  • So, I might be missing something, here, but how exactly does Badger not get off scot-free due to entrapment in "Better Call Saul"?
    • Eagle Land
    • Badger would have to show that if not for Getz's behavior, he wouldn't have tried to sell meth to anyone. US criminal law has a really high standard for entrapment, and entrapment allegations would have to be made to a judge to get the charges dismissed. Given the circumstances, claiming entrapment would force him to admit meth possession without guaranteeing acquittal on the other charges. Cooperating gets Hank, Getz and Gomez to drop the charges.
    • If those circumstances were valid criteria for entrapment, then sting operations would be worthless.
    • I'd have to rewatch the scene to be sure, but I don't think the cop ever actually says, "Could you please sell me some crystal meth?" The whole deal was done on a wink-wink/nudge-nudge basis, where both parties know that they're talking about meth, but don't say so out loud. So long as the cop doesn't explicitely ask someone to do something illegal, it can't be entrapment.

     Hiding the Bodies 
  • I assume it probably wasn't an important plot point, but does anyone know what Mike did with Chow and Chris' bodies?
    • Most likely broken down with acid the same way they did with Victor and others.
    • We see a photo of Duane Chow's body at the start of 5B when Hank is going through the case notes, and Mike himself never used acid and relied on Jesse and Walt for that. Most likely answer is he cleaned up all evidence of his connection to the crime scene, leaving the bodies as they were, and let the police handle it. For the most part, they probably thought it was a random hit.

  • Related note: what did Mike do with the bodies of the rival dealers that Walt killed? We know he cleaned up the mess, since he says to Walt, "You know I havenít slept since Thursday? I was out all night cleaning up after you." Which suggests that Mike did clean up all evidence that the dealers were tied to Gus. But what did he do with the bodies? Did he leave them where they'd fallen or did he dump them elsewhere?
  • Likewise, what about the bodies of the cartel guys that Mike killed at Chow's warehouse in "Full Measures"? There's no way he could leave them there without a police investigation, so what did he do with them, seeing how they never used acid to break down a body until they had to do this to Victor in the next episode?

     The Train Job 
  • Walt, Jesse, and Mike were awfully lucky the train car they needed to rob happened to stop on the bridge above the tanks they buried. They only knew which car carried the methylamine a few hours before, long after the tanks were already in the ground. And they couldn't control where the train stops, since there was only one road for the decoy truck to break down on. What was their plan?
    • They had a lot of extra tubing and could have just run the hoses a few extra cars up/down as needed.
    • According to Vince Gilligan, a tanker full of a hazardous material like methylamine would have to be kept on the rear of the train, and this for very obvious reasons: if there's a derailment, there's less risk of it becoming damaged and causing a spill or an explosion. You see Jesse running a wheeled device over the tracks of the trestle before the robbery; he's measuring to figure out exactly where the car will be.
      • That only helps if you know how many and what length of cars will precede it. You don't. The consist of a regularly scheduled freight train will usually be fairly constant, but isn't necessarily identical from one run to the next. Even if it's a block train (which it isn't, since Lydia said it's rebuilt in a marshalling yard) and all the cars were carrying freight for Madrigal, Madrigal might well have more to ship one week and less in another.
  • I understand why you don't label it with "methlyamine inside, but why doesn't the methlyamine car have so much as a hazmat classification sign?

     Dark Territory 
  • What was the point of having Lydia bring up 'Dark Territory' in Dead Freight? It's somewhat of a clumsy conversation over a topic that turns out to be completely irrelevant - the engineer and conductor make no attempt to call for help.
    • Trains are GPS equipped, so an unscheduled start or stop outside of dark territory automatically gets reported to Homeland Security, even if it's due to something completely mundane like something on one of the locomotives failing. Post-9/11, standard policy has been to treat any unscheduled stop as an emergency.
    • It seems safe to assume they make no attempt to call for help because they've done this route a number of times and they already know cellphones will be useless in that area.
    • Also, at the time Lydia made that suggestion, Jesse hadn't come up with his idea to rob the train without anyone realizing it. She was working under the assumption that they were going to board the train and capture/kill the crew, who certainly would have called for help if they got the chance. She proposed they stop the train there to prevent them from doing that. It still ended up being important (because it gave Kuby an excuse not to have called a tow truck) just not for the reason she initially suggested it.

     Offing a DEA Agent 
  • In "Buried", Saul recommends assassinating Hank. Wouldn't that cause way more problems than it solves? Skyler knows that Hank knows, and killing Hank would lead to a crackdown.
    • Maybe, but if they got to Hank before Hank brought his concerns to the police, they wouldn't know to trace it back to Walt. The DEA would surely swarm all over looking for the killer, but if they didn't have any evidence, they'd be out of luck. It's a risky suggestion, but not a completely unreasonable one.
    • It's way less problems than having to deal with someone who knows for a fact you're guilty, have the whole operation drawn and has the resource to hunt you on his spare time with his position.

     The Cousins' Travel Plans 
  • The Cousins. Can't they just book a plane to enter the United States?
    • And bring in guns with hollow-point bullets through customs? Uh uh.
    • *Sigh* Take the plane and buy the bullets in the States.
    • Right, because that wouldn't arouse suspicion at all.
    • *Sigh* If you're a Mexican national coming to the USA with the intention of murdering someone, maybe you would want to avoid Customs and Immigration? Especially if you know an easy way in?
    • I thought you pretty much needed a spotless criminal record to get into the States, especially from Mexico. What's the likelihood those two have clean records?
    • No, no, and no. First, buying weapons in the United States is less suspicious than blowing up a truck of migrants. Second, are you really going to tell Customs & Immigration that you came to the States to commit murder? Third, it's not impossible. Juan Bolsa gets to the States without problem.
    • Yes, yes, and yes. First, they are nutjobs who love their obviously custom-made axe, and probably their guns. Second, whatever you tell the ICE, there's now a record of you entering the country. Third, we have no clue as to how Bolsa got into the States, so your point is moot.
      • Crossing into the United States is not a crime, and records are useless if the cops can't link you to any crime. And yes, we have a clue as to how Juan Bolsa got into the United States. He says the day he can no longer cross the border is the day he retires. Either he is willing to be reduced to riding along with a bunch of illegals in the back of a coyote truck, or his record is clean. Take your pick.
      • "Records are useless if the cops can't link you to any crime." Um, what makes you think the cops wouldn't be able to link the Twins to a crime? They aren't exactly the most subtle criminals ever. Just for the record, they leave the body of the woman whose house they took over outside- they don't even make an attempt to bury it; they just leave it under a tarp with the legs exposed. And they attack Hank in broad daylight in a public parking lot (Marco even kills a passerby in cold blood and almost shoots another one had his weapon not run empty at that point and he had to reload). I imagine that they're probably known killers, even if no one specifically remembers their faces. Remember how that one kid in the truck reacts when he realizes exactly what design is on their boot tips? I don't think that was just an "ooh, they're bad guys" response- his reaction suggests to me that he probably knew something about there being these two identical looking men who travel around wearing boots with skulls on their toes. If anything, by the time they attacked Hank, the Twins were probably already on police radar if not about to show up on police radarnote , and the Twins probably know that- so it makes sense to not draw attention to themselves by travelling in public, when there are trips across the border every day- trips where it's easy to destroy any trace that says they were ever there to begin with.

    The Cousins and the border crossing 
  • So, about having to cross the border in the truck. Better Call Saul makes clear that the Cousins have been brought to the United States on several prior occasions since they're used to threaten Mike. Clearly they crossed the border by legitimate methods back then in 2002, so why now in 2010 do they have to resort to hiding in a smuggler's truck to cross the border?

    The Cousins' travel plans, part II 
  • A different question related to the Cousins. Where do they stay while they're traveling? I mean, I know they killed that woman Miss Peyketewa and took over her house, but did they stay there the entire time they were in the Albuquerque area or not?
     Does Saul Know About Mike? 
  • In "Blood Money" and "Buried" both Jesse and Saul correctly think Walt killed Mike. For Jesse it's the logical conclusion considering that Mike has disappeared without a trace and Walt had Mike's men killed. Does Saul think the same or does he actually know?
    • Saul knows. He made the comment about "sending Hank to Belize."
    • In "Blood Money", Saul asks Jesse rather pointedly if he's been in touch with Mike, and Jesse shakes his head slowly, as if to say, yeah right. Saul likely suspects (he's no dummy), but uses the 'Belize' conversation to feel Walt out more fully on the matter. Walt's reaction ("I'll send YOU to Belize") is confirmation enough.

     Hank and the Nursing Home 
  • How does Hank know, or rather correctly suspect Walt bombed the nursing home? Even if he knew about the connection between Heisenberg and Gus, Declan's thinking that Gus' death was engineered by the cartel makes more sense, even if it is wrong. Hank knows there are several people who were involved in Gus' illegal business, so why would he think that the maker of blue meth and the person responsible for killing Gus, Mike's men, and probably Krazy-8 and maybe even Gale (even if that one was Jesse) as well would be one and the same?
    • Because anyone who was anyone in the cartel was killed before Gus did. Taking that into account, Hank's assumption makes more sense than Declan's. Even if there were a few stragglers left over, like Hector, it would take a hell of an effort to pull off that kind of move from so far away with your manpower already crippled. Furthermore, Hank probably thinks it's a bit too convenient to be a coincidence that Gus was killed just as the DEA was starting to close in on him. It reeks of someone allied with Gus, i.e. Heisenberg, taking him out to cover their own tracks.
    • Hank also remembers how Walt insisted on staying behind when the DEA took the White family to Hank's house for protection. In hindsight, Hank realizes that Walt had something to do with planning Gus's death.
    • Here's why Declan might think Gus's death was a cartel hit: Gus' conflict with the cartel is clearly well-known by other dealers in the area, so when people heard that Gus died in an explosion along with a former cartel member (Hector) they automatically assumed that the Juárez Cartel was involved.

     Juice Box Man 
  • If Vince Gilligan's "juice-box man" theory regarding how Walt poisoned Brock is canon, How does Saul know Walt poisoned Brock? Why would Saul think there's a connection between the cigarette box Walt got Saul to steal from Jesse using Huell and Brock getting sick unless Walt told him so? And if that's the case, why would Walt do that?
    • For the record, the "juice-box man" theory is that Walt put the lily-of-the-valley in a juice-box and gave it to Brock at his school.
    • From what was said in one of the last scenes of "Live Free or Die", Saul had no idea that Brock would end up poisoned, possibly thinking that the ricin was for Gus or one of his men. So, the best that we can extrapolate is that Saul must have put two and two together after news of Gus' death spread around.
      • Technically, Saul only said that he didn't know Brock would end up in the hospital. Walt could have just assured him that Brock would only end up with a mild fever and a stomachache or something. A couple days of bed rest, long enough for Gus to get killed, then up and back in action.

     Half Measures 
  • What was Mike actually trying to convince Walt to do with the "half measure" speech?
    • Give up on Jesse. Not kill him or anything, but stop trying to save him.
    • He's not trying to convince Walt to actually do anything. It's an appeal to Walt's rational side. Jesse is a danger to the operation, including Walt, at that point, and Mike is pointing out the way to eliminate a danger is to eliminate it, not to wave your hands at it and hope things go okay. Mike really just wants Walt to understand this and not to try to protect Jesse or fly off the handle when he turns up dead.
    • Put it another way, it's the same logic used when cops have to shoot someone. With them the logic is, 'if someone is trying cause bodily harm to a cop, the response to eliminate the threat, and this is why they shoot multiple times at the center of mass (the torso) rather than shoot in the leg or shoulder and hope that blood loss takes over'.

     More on the Brock poisoning 
  • OK, so Brock was poisoned with Lily of the Valley and not ricin... so why exactly did Walt steal the ricin from Jesse in the first place? Back-up plan? Unconnected desire to keep him safe by taking it off him? Given Jesse's Right for the Wrong Reasons Eureka Moment in "Confessions", that could turn out to be a major goof.
    • The plan was for Jesse to think Walt poisoned Brock, so Jesse would go after Walt. Then Walt could convince Jesse it was Gus who poisoned Brock. Then Jesse would find out that it wasn't ricin, but Lily of the Valley, but by then Gus would already be dead and Jesse convinced that killing Gus was the right thing to do and that Brock getting poisoned was an unrelated matter. Also, consider the relationship between Walt, Gus and Jesse at this point. Walt is disconnected from Gus and Jesse so it's not like Walt could have poisoned Brock then called Jesse to tell him Gus did it. Walt doesn't know what Gus is doing at any given time. At the same time Walt knows that Jesse wouldn't stand a chance against Gus on his own. What Walt needed was a situation that would turn Jesse against Gus, and want him to team up with Walt. And Walt couldn't approach Jesse with this, he needed Jesse to come to him. But not thinking Saul and Huell would ever use the same bump-and-snatch technique again was an oversight, though it could be attributed to [Walt's state of mind.

     A fly, and then cooking in bug-infested houses 
  • A whole episode revolves around Walt's inability to cook with a fly in the room contaminating the process. But in season 5A, he and Jesse start cooking in houses undergoing pest control - that is, buildings that will be filled with insects. And this was Walt's idea. How does that work?
    • The portable lab is more like a little plastic tent area, separated from the rest of the house by its walls. Presumably, Walt made sure the tent area was immaculate, even if the rest of the house was bug-infested. And as far as I can remember, it was in the middle of the main living room, that is, away from your typical major infestation hotspots like walls, corners, and the kitchen.
    • Walt never did genuinely care about contamination. Whenever Walt feels pressured and out of control, he tends to focus on small, practical problems (usually problems that absolutely nobody cares about but him). Remember that scene in "I See You", after Hank got shot, where Walt fixes that wobbly table leg in the hospital waiting room? Walt gets his sense of self-worth from solving problems. The events of "Fly" were essentially Walt grasping at something to make him feel in control.
    • For what it's worth, I think the whole bug-extermination thing was just a cover-up from day 1. It´s never made clear if the houses Walt and Jesse cook in are genuinely infested or if the pest control firm is ripping people off. And even if it was a pest-infested home, the Vamonos Pest guys just draw the whole operation out: They tell the homeowners that the process takes a full week when in reality the house is bug-free in three days. The other four days, it´s free for Walt and Jesse to cook in. A very strong sign that the pest control measures aren´t actually taking place while Jesse and Walt are in there is that they´re freely roaming the house which was supposedly filled with bug poison - either the gas has already evaporated or was never pumped in to begin with, or they wouldn´t just sit inside on the couch sipping beers and watching TV.
      • Unlikely. The company would have to do actual pest control in order to keep getting hired & not attract police attention. We know the houses really are infested; there's a nice shot of a roach crawling around in the foreground at one point. They probably spray for bugs once the cook is over.

    Cooking in bug-infested houses cont. 
  • Isn't the choice to cook in bug-infested houses a bit out-of-character for Walt? There's always that risk factor. What if the owners come back early due to something they forgot or some emergency? And on the first house that Walt and Jesse cooked in, Todd said he disabled a nanny cam in that one house. I'm not sure it matches Walt's character to think it such a great idea as it will require always going into a new unpredictable environment for each cooking session. I'd have stuck with the RV.

     Are the webisodes canon? 
  • Things like Walt talking to Hank before the wedding and Walt and Badger breaking into the old lady's house.
    • They don't contradict anything said in the show proper, so there's no reason to assume they aren't canon.
    • Jesse can be heard singing TwaüghtHammër's song "Fallacies" to himself a couple of times in S5; also unless I'm misremembering, "Marie's Confession" came before the show proper acknowledged Marie had a therapist, so that suggests yes. Most of the other webisodes are simply Saul's TV advertisements, so nothing implausible about those. The only one whose canonicity we might doubt is "Team S.C.I.E.N.C.E.", since it's hard to imagine the Jesse of Seasons 2/3 making such a high-schooler-level cartoon (& yet it features a thinly-disguised Jane).

     Hector and the DEA 
  • In the season 4 finale, Gus sees Hector leaving the DEA and assumes he gave them information. So he doesn't think Hector turning up dead within a few hours of telling the police he's a criminal would be suspicious?
    • Suspicious, sure. But presumably the needle he was going to shoot him with would make it look like Hector died of natural causes, and if there was no hard evidence to link Gus to Hector's death, there wouldn't be a lot the cops could do.
      • Well Gus did go to see Hector many times, including the time before Gus was planning to kill him, which the nursing home would have a record of. So there's that.
      • I dunno, that nursing home seems to let just about anybody wander in and out as they please.
      • Actually, based on a deleted scene the nursing staff seem to be acquainted with Gus (it's from "Crawl Space" and has Jesse ask Gus about why he has a beef with Hector).
  • But if Hector told the DEA about Gus, wouldn't they put him into protective custody, so Gus couldn't kill him? How come this didn't occur to Gus?
    • Organized crime culture absolutely forbids talking to the cops. That's the reason Hector refused to rat on Jesse after Tuco's death even though he fully knows Jesse was there. Gus' disgust with Hector's actions, and fear that he might have said something incriminating, trumped his instincts. Notice that he went from deliberate and patient to wanting Hector dead the second he heard about the meeting with the DEA.
      • Gus wasn't completely blinded by rage. If he were blinded by rage, he'd probably have not first sent in Tyrus Kitt to scope out Hector's room in case it was bugged. It wasn't, so Gus thought it's not a trap. But why would Hector break that important rule of crime culture and talk to the DEA if he's not saying anything important and not setting up a trap?
      • Not everyone who goes to the DEA qualifies for protective custody-Hector would need to show that his life would be in imminent danger if he's not given DEA protection, and that's assuming everyone at the DEA bought Hector's story. Like many other things in the show, like Walt's "confession" tape designed to pin Hank as Heisenberg, the truth is stranger than fiction here. And remember, Hector didn't go to the DEA office to rat anyone out. He just went there and trolled them with his crude profane insults, and then was returned home, but this was all so that Gus would think Hector ratted him out.

     We Don't Need No Stinking Badges 
  • Hank and Gomez don't show their badges when confronted by the Neo-Nazis?
    • They knew damn well the Nazis didn't care about seeing the badges, they just wanted to trick Hank and Gomie into putting their guns down so they could shoot them.

     Extracting Saul 
  • This might be a dumb question, but how much danger would Saul be in exactly that he had to use his extractor? I'm sure he's had clients before that went belly up in the judicial system, so to speak (as well as being involved in the exposed Gus empire).
    • With Gus, Saul was a bit player and was mostly protected by his role as a lawyer. Mike was probably the only one who could seriously incriminate him. With Walt, Saul is knee deep in the entire mess. The feds will have enough probable cause to go through his life and finances with a fine tooth comb, including his family (assuming Chuck is still alive at this point; they might also talk to personal friends like Kim Wexler, Howard Hamlin, etc.). It's explained under Hollywood Law pretty clearly: attorney/client privilege doesn't apply if you lawyer is actively assisting you in the commission of your crimes, which is the case here. Huell already talked to Hank so he will probably spill everything to the feds which will link Saul directly to the money. Plus, the neo-Nazis might want to silence him permanently.
    • Gus' empire is legally irrelevant since everyone who knows the details is dead or refusing to talk. Saul's definitely looking at charges of money laundering and criminal conspiracy because he knowingly handled Walter's drug money. If he's considered a leader of the drug empire, then under racketeering laws and RICO statutes, he could also be charged with anything he ordered Huell and Kuby to do, which includes fraud (with blackmailing Ted) and impersonating a federal agent (when it came to blackmailing Bogdan with phony water violations). While he's awaiting trial for all of this, his home and office are probably under 24-7 surveillance, including wiretaps and police stakeouts, so his vaguely respectable lawyer job also collapses in the process. Many of Saul's clients have gone to prison before, but this might be the first time where he's at risk of going to prison himself.
    • This is a long one, but, Saul fled because the walls were closing in around Walt and Jimmy didn't want to be there when shit hit the fan. Walt was a dangerous man who put a hit out on Gus' men in prison. He was also wanted by the police and about to go to war with Jack and the other Nazis. More than once, Saul insists in laying low while there's a lot of heat, such as after Gus threatens Hank's life. Saul was always more worried about someone coming after him to kill him than he was about the police finding him.
      Plus, what stuff could indicate that Saul was wanted for questioning? The evidence was shredded and Jimmy was gone. Unless there was some documented evidence, anything said against him would be hearsay...and who could possibly out him? Skyler? Not likely as she hadn't even mentioned Lydia to the authorities. Huell and Kuby? There was no evidence left of criminal dealings and none of it documented. At most, he could be QUESTIONED by the cops but, to me, it's clear that Saul used the fixer because of the dangerous ground Walt was standing on/bringing down upon everyone.
      Plus, (as others have speculated) who's to even say how long after "Granite State" the opening "Jimmy at Cinabon" scene of Better Call Saul even takes place? For all we know, as has been said on the WMG page for that show, it could be taking place during the 3-6 month interim that Walt was still in New Hampshire. Plus, there are rumors that Season 2 of that show will include another future scene with "Gene" attending what many believe to be Walt's funeral.
      Examine Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul together—Saul's constant fear was fallout from his criminal associates—not the police. He's never even been brought in for questioning by the cops and the people who directly knew of his dealings with Walt were all either dead, in the wind or in a position where revealing their dealings with him would only worsen their own circumstances. People could point the finger at Saul all they'd like—but they'd be hardpressed to find any incriminating evidence outside of suspicion as to why he fled Albuquerque.
      I mean, look at Jimmy in "Uno" when he's running the Cinnabon counter and he sees that one guy—he's terrified because that guy looked like a thug. Or, look at Hank, Gomez and the rest of the DEA—none of them even suspected Saul. Hank was convinced that Saul was just an ambulance chaser—small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. Hank and Gomez were the only ones who even heard Huell's "testimony" about Saul as Hank was keeping his operation a secret. If you really think about it, Jimmy could be more in the clear than you think. He's only in Omaha because he fears for his life, and he plans on heading back to Albuquerque to resume his job once the coast is clear.
  • Walt is on the run, Jessie is simply missing and the Neo nazis are making a hostile takeover. Saul might prefer disappearing over explaining he is not really jewish when they come asking what the lawyer is saying under cop's custody.

     Gale's Address 
  • In Full Measure, why did Walt recite Gale's address when Mike had him at gunpoint after he ordered Jesse to kill Gale? Doesn't seem useful to his plan to possibly have Mike or Victor save Gale before he can get shot.
    • Mike and Victor are literally moments away from killing Walt. Walt recites the address to prove that he knows where Gale lives and credence to his claim that Jesse's on his way to kill him, which provides an incentive for them to make sure their backup cook is safe before following through.
    • Also, he said that if he could make a phone call, he could give them the place where Jesse is right now. Before he called, he didn't know exactly where he was. After the call, he knew Jesse would go kill Gale, so he knew where he would be. It's not the reason why Walt recited the address (that was to stop the others from killing him), but he also made a point of not lying to them when he said he would tell them where Jesse is.

     Tuco's CCTV 
  • Tuco's HQ had a CCTV on it. The DEA should have known who Heisenberg is sooner, then?
    • I don't think the DEA investigated the building explosion, just local police (based on the sirens at the end of that episode). So either Tuco's surveillance equipment was also damaged in the explosion or Tuco lied to cover Walt if he was questioned about it.
      • He probably would lie to cover Walt because remember how organized-crime culture prohibits ratting on anyone.
    • I'm talking about DEA raid in Season Two (the episode's "Grilled", yeah). Anyway, Tuco's CCTV is on the first floor, and Tuco had fled his HQ before Hank arrived. So?
    • I think the CCTV was simply for security, see who's coming up the steps in the next five minutes. Tuco is crazy, but he isn't dumb enough to record his interactions during the course of his drug business, not to mention, it probably wouldn't occur to him to record anything.
    • In the same episode, Tuco has Walt and Jesse's driver's licenses and other ID—remember how he said he likes family men. He left all that on the counter, and Walt and Jesse didn't have time to take it with them when they escaped. Yet Walt isn't connected to the incident at all, and Jesse's only link is his car.
      • Actually, Tuco let Walt and Jesse pick their stuff up after he's done going through them.

     "Say My Name" 
  • In "Say My Name", why didn't Mike let Jesse bring him the bag when Jesse offered to do so? Mike has firmly established a pretty solid relationship with Jesse by this point. By contrast, he utterly despises Walt and pretty much does not trust him with anything. Why then let Walt bring him the bag? I can't help but get the feeling that things would have gone a lot better, at least for Mike...
    • Probably because Mike has a fatherly care for Jesse and didn't want to involve him in any further business knowing that Jesse, too, wanted out (and there seems to be an implication that Mike learned from the mistakes that got his own son Matthew killed). It was obvious to Mike that Walt would do whatever it took to keep Jesse under his control, so Mike probably just wanted to leave Jesse out of it and deal with Walt himself. Obviously he wouldn't have died if he'd just let Jesse get him the bag, but on the other hand he did say some well-deserved truths to Walt.
    • Mike was trying to make sure Jesse could stay 'out.' As for why he accepted Walt's help, Saul was refusing, and deep down, Mike likely wanted one last chance to deliver his Reason You Suck Speach to Walter. I think that is the real reason Mike let Walt get the go-bag. He knew it was a bad idea, but he couldn't resist the temptation to blame Walter, face to face, for their predicament. Up to then, he'd been mistrusting of Walt, but never confronted Walt directly for what he did to Gus and their entire operation which (as Mike put it) ran like clockwork.

     Why "Flynn"? 
  • What is with Walter Jr's choice of the name Flynn?
    • It might not have any specific meaning, but the fact that the name is heavily associated with Errol Flynn, the legendary swashbuckling badass and ladykiller, makes it evoke the kind of image that a teenage boy would like to assume.
    • Isn't it his middle name? I think he's just using it symbolically to show that his identity is independent of his father and family. He's not gonna make up an entirely new name, so Flynn it is.
    • I assumed his middle name was Hartwell, like his father's. A friend of mine whose name is William and whose dad's name is William says he is not "Junior" because they have different middle names.

     Saving Jesse 
  • Why did Walter attempt to save Jesse in the first place? The last time they saw each other, Walter was the one who intentionally got Jesse captured in the first place. Walter stood by as Jack and Todd discussed how they would torture and kill him. And finally, he told Jesse he watched Jane die for the sole purpose of causing him as much pain as possible. So what changes between that and the finale? It's a complete 180 for Walt to go from trying to cause him as much pain as he can to trying to save him.
    • He didn't go there to save Jesse, he went there to eliminate Jack and his gang, as they were a lingering threat to his family. As for why he pushed Jesse down to avoid the bullets, seeing how Jesse looked after months of torture may have made him feel like the kid had suffered enough.
    • I didn't have any problem with that, Walt had really tried to keep Jesse alive throughout most of the series (at times even hinting he actually thought of Jesse like a son). Walt's arc towards the last 2 episodes or so is closure; accepting he's been an a-hole. Wanting to kill/hurt Jesse was part of his a-hole days. It stands to reason he would not want to do that anymore now that he's left his a-holeness behind to die peacefully.
    • Word of God states that Walter went to the Nazis' camp to not only kill them, but Jesse as well, as he assumed that Jesse was working with them willingly as a partner because his Blue Sky was still on the market. However, when Walter saw Jesse's broken, enslaved state, he realized that he had suffered more with them than Walter could ever have managed, and felt something for him in that moment - whether it was pity, love, regret, or whathaveyou is left up to the viewer. Ultimately, though, whatever emotion overcame Walter led to him making the split second decision to shield Jesse's body from the bullets with his own, sparing Jesse's life but leading to the death of everyone else in the room, himself included.

     Whatever Happened to the Jesse-Mouse? 
  • Despite the narrative implying otherwise, isn't Jesse still completely screwed? The cops are after him. They're sure to be watching his house. He has no money. He's homeless. The tape of Jesse confessing all the things he did is still probably in the clubhouse the cops are sure to search. And to top it off, the last time an innocent was indirectly killed because of him, Jesse pretty much broke down. Is he likely to do any better with Andrea dead? How could things possibly go well for him?
    • It's not supposed to be a happy ending. Jesse has done terrible things and hasn't earned one. What he gets instead is the chance at a happy ending.
    • One could also argue that Jesse is presumed dead, he has been missing for several months, and the last living person to see him is Marie, who probably assumes that he died along with Hank and Gomez.

    • As for the tape, it's likely Jack's gang destroyed it to keep it from falling into the wrong hands.
      • That would imply they are intelligent rational people. Which they are not. When they watch that video, they laugh at the fact that Jesse was crying throughout it all. Then they talk about how Todd was implicated. They also talked about how they have more money than needed without any word about how they are going to spend it, since the IRS would track them down in an instant if they spent one dime (getting arrested for undeclared revenue).
    • It would look terrible if the police publicly prosecuted Jesse after he spent the last ~4 months in a Neo Nazi dungeon, especially if he said he got coerced into working with Hank and Gomez. He might be able to get a settlement and even therapy since the media would be more likely to portray him as a victim at this point.
      • Pretty much what would happen, yeah, considering that when the police enter the compound, they are going to find all the evidence that Jesse was being kept captive there: the pit, his chains (that will have blood from Jesse killing Todd and Todd's DNA), the gun that Todd used to kill Andrea (assuming he didn't dispose of it), the crapper bucket, Jesse's DNA all over the pit. All of it giving Jesse a good argument for self defense if anything is found to tie him to the scene. He also will have a good argument against the DEA if he had to, since Hank put Jesse at risk by taking him to the money spot, leading to Jesse's capture by Jack, his slavery, and the death of Andrea. Given Hank's previous attack on Jesse and his putting a witness at risk, that might be another reason the cops wouldn't want to prosecute Jesse. They'll also undoubtedly find the guns that killed Hank and Gomez, given that their bodies will have been found by the time the compound is processed.
      • Marie could also testify that Jesse was working with Hank at the time, making him an informant. Jesse would probably walk simply because he suffered so much because Hank didn't want to call in the full DEA to catch Walt, simply because he didn't want to commit career suicide by admitting Walt hid under his nose for so long. Keeping him out of the official informant process was illegal, if I recall correctly.

    • Also, Badger and Skinny Pete are still out there. They pretty much consider Jesse a hero, so they'd definitely help him.
    • The newspaper article props from "Granite State" make it clear that the police knew about Jesse's involvement with Heisenberg.
    • Here's an IMDb user's suggestion that Jesse might be able to walk on all charges: There's a lot to this case that the DEA might not want the public to know about. Like how Hank kinda-sorta turned rogue trying to bring down Walt, to the point that some might be led to believe that Hank technically held a witness hostage at his house, and Jesse's confession video was practically extracted from him, possibly under duress, without the right to legal consul; all of this certainly not under the accepted protocols at any law enforcement agency, plus taking that witness to a scene, without backup, where he would be properly protected from a criminal such as Jack or Todd. There's also Hank's behavior throughout since Gomez also was killed as a result of this action, in addition to Hank (and we know from dialogue in season 3 that Gomez is married; what's to say his widow won't file a wrongful death lawsuit against the DEA?). It would get very ugly for law enforcement, especially for the DEA, if the media takes an avid interest in what stories Jesse might have to tell them about it all - how it was a DEA agent who was responsible for the situation that got kidnapped, tortured, and pressed into being a meth slave for the neo-Nazis. Thus, it stands to reason that the police might want to downplay Jesse's role in the whole shermozzle of a cockup Hank created for them. There will have to be some serious damage control to try to withhold as much damaging information as possible from the media. 'Cause the deeper the media digs, the uglier it all gets.

    • Word of God states that Jesse eventually made it to Alaska, where he became a carpenter and opened a wood shop. What happened between his driving away from the Nazi camp and his arriving in Alaska is up to the viewer, but one can assume that he never went to jail for his involvement in the Heisenberg case, as he would likely have never gotten out if he had. It seems likely that the tape of Jesse confessing was still around, and as Hank had promised Jesse amnesty, it would make sense for the rest of the department to grant it to him as well.

     Walt Can't Hotwire 
  • So Walt can rig a bomb to blow when a bell gets rung, he can help hook up a giant magnet to a truck to wipe out a laptop, and he can jury-rig a machine gun and a garage door opener into a Gatling gun and hook it into his remote keyless system, but he can't hotwire a car?
    • It does not seem that he cannot do it, but rather he thinks of an easier solution after he shocks himself.
    • The only one of those things that's even remotely complicated is getting the opener to pull the trigger and wiggle the machine gun and not jam the feed while doing so and all of them are at least plausible given sufficient time to study the situation and possibly test a couple of ideas out first. The one that gives Walt trouble is the one where the method isn't necessarily immediately apparent from inspection (because the parts you need to inspect are concealed or at least awkward to get to) and where he doesn't have time to spend analyzing the problem. I suspect most people with a science background would find their experience similar to Walt's: trivial, some work and considerable expense but doable (and we watch him doing the testing), tricky but possible given a little luck, freaking impossible, since automotive theft is not likely to have been a major factor in their prior careers.

     Los Pollos Hermanos 
  • What kind of restaurant is Los Pollos Hermanos? I assume it's fast food but the commercial explains they slow cooked their chicken like Kenny Roger's Roasted so which is it?
    • It's a fast food place. The real life version of the place is. The chicken is probably cooked way ahead of time and then held in a warmer. It's like KFC, as far as I'm aware (and both KFC and LPH exist in Breaking Bad Land).
    • Even Burger King will run advertisement about how their meat is the best and made with love.

     Walt's Overqualification 
  • Was Walt really as "grossly overqualified" for teaching as he claims? We know he's a brilliant chemist. We know he's both book smart and street smart. We also know he spent his twenties and early thirties getting his master's degree(s). But it's never stated that he has a PhD, and given Walt's incredible pride it's hard to imagine he'd tolerate being called Mr. White instead of Dr. White. More than half of all teachers, and esspecially those Walt's age, have their master's degree(s). Many are also very skilled at their subject matter as well. They enter teaching accepting that they'll never make as much as they potentially could. So while Walt is underachieving in his mind. Calling himself grossly overqualified is likely just his pride.
    • It's definitely a point of pride for him, but that doesn't mean it's not also true. I think it's safe to say that most high-school chemistry teachers can't do half the things Walt can, up to and including co-founding a company that's now worth billions. If skills like Walt's could be found on half the teachers in the country, Walt never would have been as valuable to Gus or the meth industry as a whole as he was. And on a purely professional level, depending on just where you're working and how long you've been there, even a single master's degree can make you overqualified for a teaching position. I'm an aspiring teacher myself, and it's something my professors have repeatedly warned me about.
    • "Grossly overqualified" is probably an exaggeration, at least on paper. Walt never actually got his doctorate, probably because doctoral degrees are CRAZY expensive and time-consuming to get, but he's certainly intellectually capable of doing doctoral-level work and probably wouldn't have had much trouble doing so if he'd ever had both the time and the money at the same time. (And if he'd stuck with Gray Matter he probably would've gotten tossed an honorary doctorate at some point even if he never took the time away from corporate work to return to academia.) Call it "grossly over-TALENTED" and you're probably closer to the mark. He's capable of far more than he actually achieves until he breaks bad.

     "Cornered" 
  • OK, really minor question, but it'll bug me for days if I don't ask. In "Cornered," what was Jesse digging for (or, probably more accurately, pretending to dig for)? Is it just that he knew Tucker was high and would get curious?
    • Yeah, that's what he meant with 'I know how meth-heads think'. Not very clear-thinking, paranoid, and easy to distract.

     Have an A 1 Day 
  • What's a "car-wash professional"? And for that matter, what's the disc with the car-wash logo that the Whites tell their customers to give to their car-wash professional for?
    • I figured 'car-wash professional' is their word for 'person who is assigned to wash your car', and the disk is a sign that you paid for the wash.
      • She actually says "car care professional". It still means the same thing though.
    • I always assumed they had different disks depending on what service you ordered. So this color means a basic wash and that color means a premium wash, while this border means a hot wax treatment and that symbol means vacuuming the interior.

     Kidnapping Jesse 
  • What was Gus thinking, kidnapping Jesse at the end of Season 4 and making him cook at gunpoint? A big chunk of the season focuses on how Gus needs Jesse to work for him willingly, and the steps he takes to try and win Jesse's loyalty. And then he throws everything away and decides to force him because a batch is running late? Did he expect Jesse to keep cooking for him voluntarily after his mooks tasered and kidnapped him?
    • This is after he has a moment of clarity in the parking garage, realizing that Walt is trying to kill him. He likely assumed (correctly, given that at this point Jesse is back in Walt's corner) that Jesse lured him in on purpose as part of the plan. Cooking at gunpoint is probably a temporary solution while he deals with Walt and sorts everything out. Jesse was probably going to disappear not long after that. Gus states previously that he doesn't believe in using fear for motivational purposes, but by then things are falling apart and he starts making decisions that don't gel with his established m.o in effort to keep things moving. I think he always knew Jesse wouldn't be a permanent part of the operation, but having him work with Mike was a way to keep him out of trouble as they worked around Walt, who was a lot more of an issue. To paraphrase Walt in season 2: "He does what I say.". Gus finally understood that Jesse's loyalty would always be to Walt, and that came on the heels of Jesse asking him to let Walt go a few episodes ago.
      • Speaking of which, how DID Gus know about the bomb under his car? He walks towards it, sees it stand there in the same spot as before, unchanged, stops, then looks out the car-park, trying to find anything suspicious there, and when he doesn't, he decides that it's a trap and leaves. How would he? Walt suspects that Jesse slipped up talking to Gus, but there's literally NOTHING in their dialogue one could be suspicious of. Did Gus just read in the script that there was a bomb under his car, or what?
      • It's unlikely Gus figured out exactly what would happen if he got into his car, but on the assumption that his moment of clarity clued him into something being up, then it was safer to ditch the car.
      • There's a healthy measure of luck required to be as successful as Gus was for as long as Gus was. Call it "luck," call it a "sixth sense," call it an abundance of caution, Gus has a knack for survival and sniffing out plots. Walt was only able to kill Gus because he took advantage of the one thing that made Gus lose control: his hatred of Hector.
      • In more practical terms, Gus walks to the parking garage after Jesse reveals Brock was poisoned, after which Gus asks, "How did that happen?" Gus is trying to put two and two together, and this is a man who already knows not to let Walt anywhere near him. Gus's pause in the parking garage need not be any more mystical or complicated than a proven chessmaster trying to calculate whether he has been deliberately maneuvered. Even if he doesn't know for sure, he opts for caution. Not a bad conclusion where Walt's considered.

     Resemblances 
  • Season 4, episode 2: Jesse has just started The Party That Never Ends. He's leaving to go to "work" at around 19:30 into the episode. Just as he steps out the door, a guy that looks a lot like Walt (in particular, he looks like Walt in "Granite State" with longer hair, though of course at the time we don't know that yet) sits up right in front of the camera. It clearly can't be Walt (in addition to that making no sense, Walt is shaved bald at the time). So what's it supposed to mean?
    • Probably nothing. It was just some dude being awoken by the music suddenly, like everyone else in the room.

     Leaves of Grass, My Ass 
  • Walt leaving Leaves of Grass in the bathroom. Did the possibility of Hank finding it really never occur to him?
    • One of my favorite lines was Walt admitting, "I screwed up," on this very point (because he so rarely admits it). I think it's less than the possibility of Hank finding it that Walt overlooked: Hank finding it, opening it, bothering to read a front page inscription and making the connection is a specific series of events that never occurred to Walt. It's more evidence of Walt's hubris, a tiny symbol that he thinks he can now get away with anything. And he's wrong.
    • Walt's hubris would be a good explanation, but Walt always TRIED to get rid of incriminating evidence to his crimes (even if it doesn't work out). He never at least thought of ripping that signed page out?
      • Nope. Like the troper above you pointed out Walt never considered that it could be incriminating against him, and by that point in the series he had the book in his possession for months with no ill consequences. The evidence that Walt did get rid off were all immediate, pressing matters that he had to deal with then and there (I.E. getting rid of evidence that he made the bomb and poisoned Brock happened on the day he did them, taking care of the camera footage was a massive threat to him, etc.), whereas the book wasn't any of those things.
      • I get that, but wouldn't getting rid of the signature in that book have been an immediate and pressing matter right around the time he helped Hank go through Gale's lab notes after Gale's murder? Way before he thought he was untouchable? I can understand Walt keeping the book all this time, but to not rip out that page or at least sharpie that signature out is just plain stupid. Especially after having a conversation with Hank where he threw him off the trail of Gale's "W.W".
      • Yes it's plain stupid. Just like after throwing Hank off the trail of "W.W" he gets drunk and basically tells Hank that Gale isn't Heseinberg right after he was ready to give up the search. If Walt remembered that he had the book at that time he didn't think it was enough of a risk to take care of, since only one page of it was a threat and that would require Hank to go to his apartment, find one book out of many and look at one page in particular, which just would not have happened under those present circumstances. The only reason Hank finds the book is because Walt at his most egotistical leaves it someplace that is encouraging people to read it.

     Mike's Work for Saul 
  • I understand Mike's work as a P.I., it's a legitimate job and can be used as a cover story, but why was he doing illegal jobs for Saul, like the cleaner job he's introduced doing or bugging Walt's house? Saul couldn't have been paying him enough to be be worth the risk, especially compared to the money Gus was likely paying him, considering how much he was going to leave his grand daughter
    • Connections. Mike does the job as a favor to Saul, and in return Saul gives him Saul's connections. Yes, Saul himself has once said that Mike has far larger connections than himself, but to Mike, having an Amoral Attorney on his friend list doesn't hurt.
    • The spin-off series shows that they are or were on a favor for favor relationship. Jimmy helps him with legal issues Mike helps Jimmy with breaking and entering.

     Blue Sky 
  • So before i ever watched the show, i had discovered by reading about the show online that the name of Walter's blue meth was Blue Sky. Well now ive watched the entire series and i never remember anyone referring to the meth by that name even once. Did i miss it?
    • Yeah, they call it that at least once, in the season 2 finale. It's during Hank's briefing of his DEA pals, right when he announces Walt's recovery fund.

     Even More on Brock 
  • So just for the sake of clarity, I would like to hear a more descriptive opinion on how Walter's plan to poison Brock was supposed to play out. Because everyone seems to have the impression that getting Jesse to initially suspect Walter was part of his plan. But I always interpreted it as Walter was simply expecting Jesse to blame Gus in the first place and the fact that he blamed Walter was totally unexpected to him (though Walter was fully capable of working around it, as we would expect of him). Am I crazy or is there something I'm missing?
    • I don't think Jesse ever would have made the jump from "Brock is poisoned" to "Gus must have done it" by himself, and I don't think Walt ever would have expected him to, either. The more natural and immediate conclusion would be that Walt did it himself, since Walt, unlike Gus, definitely knew about both the ricin and Jesse's connection to Brock. So, Walt's plan was to have Jesse come after him, then redirect him to Gus.
    • Why the heck wouldnt he have made the jump by himself?. Bet you more then 3/4 of the people watching that episode when it aired pinned Gus as their first guess right off the bat. If Vince Gilligan saw Walter being the culprit as a twist, Why wouldnt Walter, someone who has demeaned jesse's intelligence numerous times over the course of the show, Think the same thing?
      • I think to better explain the misdirection, you have to watch the entirety of the movie Shutter Island. (I apologize for spoilers, but the very nature of the metaphor I'm constructing hinges on them.) There comes a moment in the first time you watch the film where you suspect that Teddy Daniels is insane. However, once he enters the cave and you meet "the real Rachel Solando," you suddenly know for a fact that Teddy is not insane. What she is saying makes too much sense. But then the ending is revealed, and the twist is that Teddy was insane all along. You predicted the twist from the beginning, but you were misled, and when you were finally revealed to be correct, you were surprised. It works the same way here: Jesse heard that Brock was sick, and the logical next step in his reasoning is that Walt was responsible. He confronted Walt, who explained point by point how this conclusion doesn't add up, and the blame shifts to Gus. The twist at the end of the episode is the revelation that Walt had the Lily of the Valley plant in his backyard, and he was the one who used it on Brock. Jesse was right from the beginning, but Walt misled him. I hope that helps.
      • Jesse's first suspicion was that Walt poisoned Brock to get back at him for helping Gus. Not being a Chessmaster, the idea that it was a part of a larger plan on anyone's part wouldn't occur to Jesse on his own.

     Watching Jane Die 
  • Minor point, but: what was Walter's motivation for telling Jesse that he (Walter) watched Jane die? Most people seem to assume that it was petty, meant solely to hurt Jesse as much as possible, but the way the line was read, I disagree. Up until that point, Walter keeps trying to protect Jesse. Even after Jesse turns completely against him and begins threatening his family, he has to be brought around to the idea of having Jesse killed. And he keeps insisting that he wants it done quickly and painlessly. I think this was, in part, his way of saying, "I'm not protecting you any more. No more secrets. You deserve to know the truth." Cruel, yes, but he was also acknowledging Jesse as an equal. And in part it was also a confession. Walt was never quite as confident about letting Jane die as any of the other lines he crossed. For all Walt knew, this was the last time he'd ever see Jesse, and he wanted Jesse to know the whole truth so that if Jesse hated him, he could hate him for the right reasons.
    • It was petty. He saw Jesse working with Hank as the ultimate betrayal, plus he blamed him for Hank's death.

     Waltsenberg 
  • I know this may sound stupid, but I've been thinking and, how did exactly everyone find out about Walt being Heisenberg? After Hank and Gomez's deaths all the evidence was stolen from his house by the Aryans. In "Ozymandias", Skyler claimed to be "just a victim" of Walt's actions and she "shouldn't" known anything about him being Heisenberg (And, anyways, I don't think Skyler ever heard that name). Yet, after Walt escapes everyone knows that he's Heisenberg, that he's the manufacturer of the blue meth, that he killed Gus, etc, etc. Pretty much ALL he did. When all the police actually had was what Skyler and Marie could told them.
    • Marie did know all of that because Hank told her everything he had figured out, and brought up in his confrontation with Walt in "Blood Money".
    • This is Breaking Bad. This isn't Dexter, where a cop is killed and there's no fallout whatsoever. The disappearance of Hank and Gomez under suspicious circumstances would, in real life, prompt a full investigation from pretty much everyone, including the DEA proper, with possibly extra help from the ATF and the FBI, especially since Hank was the Assistant Special Agent in Charge, or the most senior official, in the Albuquerque DEA office:
      • A.) Debriefing Marie and Skyler would confirm that Walter White was Heisenberg and Jesse Pinkman was his former accomplice.
      • B.) When the cops got a copy of Walter's faux confession speech (which Skyler would've doubtlessly confirmed was bullshit), they would have an almost complete map of the Gus Fring/Walter fiasco. Remember, the video that was stolen from Hank's house by the Aryans was Jesse's confession video, not Walt's faux "confession" that was intended to implicate Hank as Heisenberg. So the cops do have that entire faux-confession in their hands.
      • C.) Once the cops get a hold of Huell and Kuby (yeah, we all like to joke they're still in hiding and waiting but...) that would've exposed the Saul Goodman angle and complicity, which is why we see Saul using his fixer so he can avoid being caught for criminal conspiracy charges.
      • D.) When Andrea Cantillo is killed, the police will investigate and they might or might not connect her back to Jesse, since they'll probably question her parents, not to mention that they probably still know about Brock being poisoned. Of course, it's possible as well that Andrea's murder will go unsolved and only gets solved when forensics tests all of the guns recovered from the Neo-Nazis' compound and finds that one of them matches the bullet dug out of Andrea's head.
      • E.) At some point in time, Badger, Skinny Pete, and Jesse's other friends would've been hauled in and questioned by both local police and the Feds. Badger knew Walt was Heisenberg, considering his being questioned by police when he got arrested in Saul's introductory episode.
      • F.) Most importantly, you have to remember that "Granite State" took place during a timeframe as long as the entirety of seasons 1-4. There was a lot going on behind the scenes.

     "Hazard Pay" 
  • In the episode "Hazard Pay", why the heck was Marie wearing her lab coat outside the hospital?
    • She was probably off to work, or on a break from work. She wears her lab coat outside the hospital a few times in the series.

     Taking the Bullet 
  • How exactly Walt get shot? His back balloon when the M60 starts shooting?
    • He appears to be hit with his own gun while keeping Jesse down, effectively taking a bullet for him.
      • He is already down. How does the bullet get him?
      • Ricochet?
      • Either that, or a bullet simply managed to hit him. Heavy machine guns aren't the most accurate weapons, so it's not unlikely that a bullet or two out of hundreds would stray off-target.
      • Most likely ricochet. Right before Walter is shot, we see a bullet bounce off of something low to the ground, so we can assume that's the bullet that hit him.

     Protective Custody for Skyler 
  • After Walt was exposed, why weren't Skyler and the kids moved into protective custody? As far as the world at large knows, he's a dangerous crimelord on the lamb and an abusive husband. For all they know, he could have them killed at any time.
    • There were cops stationed outside of their new house when... hehe, Walt broke in. May seem a tad lax for the situation, but it was nonetheless a preemptive action. Not knowing Walt's dangerous cunning, the cops probably figured it was enough.
    • It's implied that was just in response to Walt being spotted again.
    • The cops were hoping Walt would make contact with his family.
    • The point is, Skyler and her family were under police protection, even if they were trying to bait Walt.

     Saul's Dirty Cash 
  • By the end of the show, Saul should be very, very rich. At a minimum, he's been taking 5% of Walt's profits, per their agreement. So why is he still working as 'two-bit bus bench lawyer', as Walt calls him, operating out of a strip mall? I suppose it could be explained by Walt needing him to maintain his low-class 'cover' while laundering his money, but by the time he has to seek the vacuum cleaner repair guy's help he's talking to Walt about being forced to work a crap job in Omaha as his best bet. Even if he can't flaunt his wealth without drawing attention, shouldn't he never have to work another day in his life given how much money Walt brought in for him? Certainly Saul is smart enough to have started getting his money ready for transport, like Walt, the moment things started to unravel for them.
    • I imagine he'd need a legitimate paying job for the same reason Walt had the car wash: You can't live purely off of dirty cash. And the job is crap because he has to stay low-profile to avoid drawing attention. It'd be very suspicious if some big, huge business guy just appeared out of nowhere one day, and it'd be even more suspicious when he happens to look kinda like that sleazy Albuquerque lawyer whose cheesy late night TV commercials have gone viral on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and all the other usual social media outlets by this point due to his association with Heisenberg. Managing a Cinnabon? Well, that's something he can do. It's peaceful, it's quiet, it's low-key. It's a good gig for him. And it makes honest pay that doesn't come off as fishy.
    • On that matter, Cinnabon is practical with the 'keep low profile stuff'. Why not work in such an occupation as a bus driver or even a subway operator in a big city like New York? I mean, those are occupations that are kinda low-key as well.
    • It's a lot easier to become the manager of a Cinnabon than it is to be a bus driver or a subway operator, in terms of technical knowledge and background checks. The last thing Saul wants is a government agency testing his fake identity.
    • The identity eraser told him or he probably figured it out that it's not because he has different I.D that he should test them, even the best fake identity is still limited by the fact that it's not matching reality under scrutiny. So even with his money he is probably not gonna try buying expensive stuff that draw attention when paid in cash.

     Walt's Mom 
  • Why doesn't Walter's mother play a bigger part in the series? It's mentioned that she's still alive, but we never see her or learn much about her. If we knew more about her, it could shed some light on what made Walter who he is and possibly his motivations for his actions in the series.
    • We probably don't see her for the same reason we never see what led to the falling out between Walt, Gretchen and Elliot. Introduced into the story directly, it would serve as a distraction and unnecessary plot thread. Hinted at indirectly, it gives subtle hints about Walt's character without ever revealing anything for certain. All we really know about Walt and his mom is that he has so little interest and involvement with her that he never bothers to tell her he has lung cancer and speaks about the possibility of visiting her with distaste. I think the writers simply made the judgement call that anything beyond that was unnecessary to the story.

     Sparing Walt 
  • Why don't Jack and the Neo-Nazis kill Walt after they kill Hank? They clearly have no loyalties to him, or anyone but themselves, and since they shoot Hank right after Walt begs them to spare him and then steal most of his money, he's probably going to do anything he can to get revenge. Maybe they think he's in no position to get revenge on them, but with a DEA Agent dead it justs seems beyond reckless and stupid to leave a living witness free to go, especially one who they know must now despise them.
    • Because a.)as Jack said, Todd really liked Walter and would've be devastated if they killed him b.) I always thought that Jack liked or at least respected Walt c.) that $11 million dollars they "give" to Walter is hush-money. There's no way he can go to the police without losing it d.)Hank died because of Walt. When the investigation begins the heat will be on him which will easier if he's still alive and e.) like Jack says, he's in an incredibly good mood because of the $69 million dollars they procured.
      • An additional consideration: At this point, they have no idea how much the DEA knows. If Jack were to kill Walt and the DEA found his body, they would know that there was a new player in town and start searching for Jack's crew. By leaving Walt alive and giving him enough money to disappear, they insure that the heat stays on Heisenberg and off themselves.
      • If they killed Walt, they'd probably have thrown his body into the same hole they threw Hank's and Gomez's bodies into.
    • Why show up in the first place when Walt told them not to come? Because they do have loyalty to him.
      • The first explanation was satisfactory enough, but 'Because they do have loyalty to him'? I'm not sure what word I'd use to describe showing up unannounced and unwanted at a site where they start a shootout with Walt's brother-in-law, kill him and his partner, then steal nearly all of Walt's money, but I'm pretty sure 'loyalty' is about as far away from it as I could imagine.
      • There is no loyalty to him. Jack's only reason to help Walter at all was to get him to train Todd to have a better purity in their meth and thus increase their own profits. They showed up because as far as they knew Walter was alone with someone who was going to kill him and they still need one cook out of him.
      • They show up because Uncle Jack knew there would be something there to find. He even says to Walt that most people give very vague addresses or directions when they want you to go somewhere, but Walt gave him specific GPS co-coordinates. If that isn't where Walt was hiding his money then what else could it be?
    • Why would they kill him? To them he is just a cook who tried being a Corleone, better let him have the heat instead of people investigating other sources for who killed Declan and DEA agents.

     Shaggy Dogs 
  • Did anybody else get the feeling that 75% of the plot turned out to be Shoot the Shaggy Dog? Most of the charactors: dead. Skyler loses the carwash, completely negating that plot arc. Walter is exposed, so all those episodes revolving around hiding his secret identity (the 5th season premiere, killing the ten witnesses, the climax of Sunset, and so on) turned out to be for nil. Its like nothing was really *accomplished*, save the money Flynn and Skyler may never even see.
    • That may be the point, crime really doesn't pay.
      • The above is correct. While Walt is the main character, he is still a conniving, murderous, self-centered crook. We may have been rooting for him, but we must not forget that he is a criminal, and him and his family living happily ever after along with the rest of the characters would totally destroy the realism the show is famous for.

     Jesse's House 
  • Other than the apartment he rented from Jane, Jesse's house is supposed to be the same throughout the entire show right? So the house that he has his destructive parties in with hobos is still supposed to be his aunt's old house? Because he bought (or scammed I guess) it off the parents right? Why then does it look completely different after he moves back in? I know it was renovated, but the stairs aren't even in the same place, the exterior is completely different, the lounge is never seen before season 3/4. I can't see even one similarity between the house from season 1 and the house from season 4.
    • The rest of the house in season one isn't featured primarily in season 4. It looks different because we are never shown anything beyond the bedroom and the living room. The layout is the same; we just don't see it exactly like with the White household.
    • Actually, that part of the house was seen before. In season one when Jesse and Walt discuss Krazy-8 and flip the coin, it is the same room that we see in Jesse's house from season three onwards. In reality what happened was, they used a real house as a location, someone new bought the house and didn't want a film crew around. Later it was recreated as a set. Unfortunately the geography of the set makes no sense! The front door has moved, leading outside where it used to lead into another room. This is hand waved in season three when Jesse comments on his parents renovation, he mentions they "moved the garage, bold move".

     Gus's "sixth sense" 
  • OK, Gus was able to know someone placed a bomb in his car even being meters away, so how could his "sixth sense" not tell him that there was a bomb in Hector's wheelchair when he was just a couple of centimeters away?
    • There was no sixth sense involved. He didn't "know" that Walt rigged his car to explode, he stopped and began thinking about why someone would poison Brock, and ran through his head everything he knew to conclude that it was to bring him out to somewhere specific. With Hector, though, Gus has always let his emotions and desire to make him hurt get the better of him, which is why he didn't consider that it was a trap (and to be fair he did send Tyrus in first to scope out the room).

     Walt's "electric" escape 
  • When Walter escaped the radiator Mike tied him to, how did he just burn his wrist with the current he took from the cables? Shouldn't that have electrocuted him?
    • From what I remember, Walt only stripped the ends of the wires of their insulation, and his skin was up against the protected parts. Since he's not actually part of the completed circuit when he puts the wires together, he can't be electrocuted, just burned from being too close to the reaction.
    • Honestly, the real problem with that scene is where on his wrist he places the wires together to burn the zip-tie. He places the wires together almost exactly where his major artery is, which is incredibly dangerous. It would have been much smarter to do it by the edge of his wrist, or on the back where there aren't any major veins.

     Why would Gus bother getting into the Meth business in the first place? 
  • In the flashback to Maximo's death, Gus is mentioned to already be running Los Pollos Hermanos. If this is the case, why bother getting into drug making at all when he's already making plenty of cash safely, legally, and ethically?
    • We don't know whether Gus' restaurant business was profitable at the time; it seems to be doing just fine by the "present," but that may have been due to an early cash infusion from the drug trade, and by the time it became self-sufficient he may have been in too deep to quit. Or it may not have been about the money at all; like Walt, he may have been in "the empire-building business" first and foremost.
    • Moreover, he was using the drug side of the business to get closer to the cartel.
    • Moreover, was there a point where Gus was planning to retire only to be sucked back into the entire distribution business?

     Walt's Exile 
  • "Granite State" shows us all the gritty details of Walt's exile in hiding from law enforcement. While Walt's reasons for going through with it are fairly clear (determination to give his family the money he has left), the "Vacuum Cleaner Repair Guy" must have known that Walt's living conditions were no better and possibly even worse than imprisonment, especially with Walt's cancer returning. So why even bother? Chances are Walt was going to die sooner rather than later and even if he wasn't, that money would have dried up because of the expenses. There wasn't really any point to it short or long term except for Walt's refusal to go to prison.
    • Hell, considering that his whole schtick is to disappear someone so thoroughly that there is no coming back ever, what incentive does the Vacuum Cleaner Repairman have to actually do his job? Who would know the difference if he killed his clients and threw their bodies in an incinerator?
    • VCRG is a Consummate Professional. It's not that he couldn't cheat his clients; it's that he chooses not to. Of course, once the client dies, he is no longer bound to them.
    • One doesn't get a reputation like the VCRG by offing people over the years. Even the best murderers will slip up and if it gets out that someone who was supposed to be disappeared by VCRG turned up dead soon after, his reputation is ruined because people see that he either killed the people himself or he didn't do a good job of disappearing his clients. Even in the criminal world, there are times when it's easier to just leave someone alive.

     Walt's deal for Declan 
  • I understand that writers are not great at math sometimes, and we've seen the math be fuzzy in this show before, but I'm trying to wrap my mind around the partnership Walt and Declan had for a few months. Here's how I understand it.
    • Declan's original plan was to spend 15 million on 1000 gallons on methylamine, which he would have cooked by his chemist and sold. How much could it be sold for? Well, a deleted scene in "Dead Freight" indicates that the methylamine was good for nearly $300 million worth of meth in the hands of Walt, and Walt's offer in "Say My Name" mentions a loss of $130 million if the meth is handled by a substandard cook (implying he's talking about Declan's cook). Now, the $300 million scene is deleted and perhaps not canon, but in Season 2 in his first meeting with Gustavo he claims that his meth can be sold for double its usual rate, so I'm comfortable with the estimate at least being close. So that 1000 gallons becomes $160-170 million in Declan's hands. Then you have shipping and distributing costs, plus lab upkeep and other materials and substances required for the cook, and of course the cook gets paid. I won't try to make guesses about cost in those categories, but the series seems to indicate that the overhead of cooking meth is mostly in the cost of methylamine. In any case, 160 million of meth, minus 15 million, makes 145 million.
    • Walt's audible is for Declan to spend $5 million for 35% of Walt's empire, where Walt cooks the methylamine, for apparently $300 million dollars worth if he uses all 1000 gallons. So Declan's cut of that would be 100 million or so. It seems like Walt was sending half of his product through Madrigal to the Czech Republic (I believe Lydia uses the figure 25 pounds in "Gliding Over All", and Walt cooks 50 pounds a week, so this is the estimate I came up with), and I doubt Declan was seeing any of that since he couldn't have been distributing it. Now we're down to 50 million for Declan. Subtract the 5 million he gave Mike, 45 million. He still has shipping and distributing costs (since that's his role in Walt's empire), he may or not be responsible for non-methylamine cook ingredients (I would guess he's not but it's not impossible) and he doesn't have to pay his own cook anymore. That looks like a drop in profit for Declan that might be nine figures. Why would he agree to this? You can't even say it's safer for him since he's still doing distribution, which is the hardest part. Hell, even if you assume Declan's take got bigger when Jesse left, to maybe 50% (which is very generous) it's still a crap deal for him. Why'd he take it?
    • Because he's the cook. He's the man who killed Gus Fring. Now. Say his name.

     The math of Walt's three month cook-spree 
  • Again, writer's can't do math, but I've been thinking about those three months in Gliding Over All where everything worked perfectly for Walt and the money he made. Ignore for a moment that the size of the pile of cash shown in the storage locker is very inconsistent with the claims of the characters in Ozymandias and onward. The show keeps using the 80 million number, so I'll use that even though that pile couldn't have possibly been more than 35 million and probably closer to 20 million. In any case, we know that as of Madrigal, Walt is broke (and actually 40 grand in debt) because of the 620k given to Ted, 800k for the car wash, 5% cut to Goodman, and assorted other expenses. The cook in Hazard Pay gets Walt back in the black by a little bit. It's implied that this was the only cook Walt did prior to Dead Freight since the methlyamine supply had been cut off. So basically, as of the start of Gliding Over All, Walt basically had nothing. He seems to cook 50 pounds a week, since the limited space in the tent doesn't allow for any more. 25 pounds go to Declan, which Walt got 65% of, and 25 pounds go to Lydia, which Walt got 70% of (Declan's deal was for 35%, and Lydia's deal was for 30%). We're never told what Walt's product sells for at this point but Declan's probably selling for around 40k a pound still, which would be a million dollars a week, Walt getting 650k. Lydia's half might be going for more since the Czech Republic is accustomed to such poor quality meth, so let's go crazy and say 60k a pound. 1.5 million, of which Walt gets 1.05 million. That's 1.7 million per week, then Todd has to get paid (he probably started getting paid at some point, right?), then Saul has to get paid (although at this point I'm not 100% sure what he's even being paid for since Skyler is laundering the money)...and we're supposed to believe 13 weeks of this got Walt 80 million? Even if Todd never got paid a dime and Saul was just taking 5%, that's 1.6 million a week, or about $21 million. Ironically, the size of the cash stack might have been accurate, but the 80 million dollar figure actually used isn't even remotely close. Walt would need to be doing 4 cooks a week, which seems impossible, or cooking 200 pounds per cook, which seems slightly less impossible. Is there anything I'm not accounting for? Or is this just a whiff on the part of the writers?

     Gus's Caution (or Lack Thereof) 
  • Why would the otherwise cautious Gus discuss with Walt whether or not he knew anything about the attempt on Hank's life as well as their business in the middle of a crowded hospital full of police and DEA agents?
    • There are a lot of conversations going on in that lobby at the same time. All of the other conversations are filtered out so that we explicitly only hear the one between Walt and Gus.
      • But why even leave such a thing to chance? All it would potentially take is one cop or DEA agent to hear their conversation to start asking questions like "Why does Hank's brother-in-law think Mr. Fring here has any special knowledge about this?", "What did Gus mean by "...[hiding] in plain sight."?", "What business are these two involved in, and why would Hank be a problem for it?", which are the kinds of questions that might get a cop to open an investigation into Gus. It just doesn't seem like a risk Gus would take.
      • I think that Walt and Gus were actually talking in very low voices, as in, almost a whisper. Enough that they can hear each other, but not enough that their voices would carry and be picked up by anyone nearby. Anyone passing by might think that Walt and Gus were talking about something very mundane like the weather or baseball.
      • Watching that scene again, a simple answer is "Delicious Distraction". It's possible that the other cops were occupied with their food.
    Police aren't upset about Leonel's death? 
  • So, Gus had Mike kill Leonel. When the cops get to his room just as he's declared deceased, Gomez's response is, "Burn in hell, you piece of shit." While I can understand why Gomez would feel that way, I keep thinking, shouldn't Gomez and the other cops be a bit upset that they've just lost their best potential shot at figuring out who was behind the attack on Hank?
    • The Cousins tried killing him in retaliation for killing Tuco. this is not a mystery to them why the Cartel goons decided to get mad at some cop screwing up their operation and killing their family member.

     Why Didn't They Wear Masks? 
  • Why didn't Walter, Jesse and Todd wear masks when they robbed the train? The engineers wouldn't be able to identify them if they were caught in the act and able to run away and Todd would probably have felt less inclined to shoot that kid who stumbled upon them at the end of it.
    • I don't know. If I were Drew, I'd probably be more suspicious and wonder why there are three or four men hanging out underneath this railroad trestle in the middle of the day wearing masks for no apparent reason, and I'd think they were up to something.
    • It wasn't being identified that they were afraid of so much as the robbery being discovered at all. As Jesse told Todd, "nobody can ever know that this train got robbed." Had they been seen by the engineers, they would have been forced to kill them, abort the heist, and get the hell out of there, not to mention that the crime would be discovered since they might not have time to remove the engineers' bodies; alternately, even if the bodies were removed, there's no way you can make a freight train disappear into thin air, not to mention the authorities would have probably found the pit where the underground tanks were. All of that aside, for all we know they might have had bandannas or masks hidden in their pockets anyway. Not to mention, masks might eventually become a bit uncomfortable to wear in hot weather. I mean, they'd make you all hot and sweaty.

     How do you build the pit? 
  • When Jack and his crew are holding Jesse, they keep him in a 10 feet deep concrete pit in the middle of their compound that can only be accessed by ladder. Since that gang has neither the smarts or resources to build that place, I assumed they took over an existing or abandoned business. What could that pit have been used for, legitimately? It seems pointless for anything except a prison.
    • I believe their compound used to be a sawmill. At least, that's what the old filming location was used for.

    Los Pollos Hermanos after Gus's death 
  • Given Gus's death and the revelation that he's a drug dealer, isn't Los Pollos Hermanos as a business going to suffer some loss in revenue?
    • It was strongly implied that the company went defunct after his death, as evidenced by the Los Pollos Hermanos sign being taken down at Madrigal in the episode of the same name. As for the fate of the restaurants, they either were shuttered or converted into establishments of the other restaurant chains that Madrigal GMBH owns, like Whiskerstay's, Burger Matic or Polmieri Pizza. The Albuquerque location may have even become the Twisters restaurant that was used for filming in real life.
      • I actually think that Los Pollos Hermanos didn't get shut down due to Gus's death and the reveal that he was a drug lord. In "Madrigal," when Hank and Gomez are interrogating Mike, there's dialogue that suggests that Los Pollos Hermanos may have just received new management: Hank says, "You're currently employed by the Pollos Hermanos chain. Is that correct?" If LPH had gone defunct, Hank probably would have said, "You were formerly employed by the Pollos Hermanos chain." And when asked if his job as head of corporate security is a full-time occupation, Mike says, "We have 14 locations. So, yes, it's a full-time job." If LPH was defunct, he'd have said, "We had fourteen locations. So yes, it was a full-time job." So, that's my evidence that makes me think Los Pollos Hermanos didn't cease business due to the reveal that it was a front for a drug empire. In fact, for what it's worth, in the scene of the workers taking down the Los Pollos Hermanos logo at Madrigal headquarters, it's possible that they're just taking the logo away for cleaning or are replacing it with a new LPH logo. Los Pollos Hermanos got new management, like a new CEO and new top level executives who weren't involved in the drug business.
    • Better way of putting it: look at KFC. If KFC chief executive officer Muktesh Pant got arrested for running an underground meth operation, every KFC franchise in the world wouldn't suddenly implode. Yum Brands would simply hire a replacement, issue a public apology, and continue with business as usual. Yes, KFC is an international chain while Los Pollos Hermanos is a regional chain that only operates in the Southwest. But, basically, Gus's death and the reveal that he was a drug kingpin wouldn't shut down Los Pollos Hermanos. A new CEO would be hired to replace him or promote someone in the upper levels of LPH management to acting CEO until a replacement could be found; the company's PR team would issue a public apology, then the business continues on like nothing ever happened (I'd say Gus is kinda like a CEO of sorts).

    The refrigerator truck ambushes 
  • Are they happening on the north side of the border or south? If on the north, wouldn't the ambushes of two different Los Pollos Hermanos refrigerator trucks make the police suspicious?
    • I guess the one which Mike survives in was never made known to police.
      • Yeah, that's possible. Except, in the second hijacking, the successful one, Gaff and his guys left, in their wake, a refrigerator truck stopped on the roadside with a shot-dead driver, as well as two dead men in the back of the truck armed with automatic carbines. Even the most inept investigator should be suspicious enough to wonder why a small fast food company would need to hire armed guards for its trucks.
      • As with the two dead dealers that Walt killed before Jesse got to them, Gus has the resources to clean up messes fairly quickly. I imagine his trucks have GPS on them and some way of signaling that something's gone wrong (perhaps the driver is told, "If your truck is ambushed, press this button and it will automatically radio a distress signal"; it's not entirely unrealistic either because many shipping companies use such devices on their own trucks). Mike and a crew could come in and clean up before highways patrol finds the truck.
      • After watching Mike's crusade against Hector Salamanca in Better Call Saul, I think a few things came up: 1) the attacks definitely were happening on the north side of the border since there's no way the trucks would be allowed through a border crossing with heavily armed guards without arousing suspicion. Not to mention that Los Pollos doesn't seem to have any locations in Mexico. And 2) after Mike attacked one of Hector's trucks, Nacho mentioned that Hector's crew cleaned up the scene so that officially it never happened. Gus must have something similar ot this.

    When body disposal is necessary 
  • Watching "Dead Freight", I have to ask, was it necessary to dispose of Drew Sharp's body? Couldn't they have left the body there and everything afterwards would be unchanged?
    • Walt and crew were far too careful and cautious for that. Drew's body would have been found relatively soon. Coroners can determine how long a body has been sitting there, and although the natural elements might mess them up, they'd determine from how long he'd been there exactly when he'd died, which could conceivably led them to the train which was robbed. Now, it might be extremely unlikely that it ever could have led back to Walt and the others, but it would have been uncharacteristically careless of Walt to just leave the boy's body there and hope that something like a coyote gets there before the cops do.
  • Speaking of body disposal, there's the matter of Hank's and Gomez's bodies. After they're killed by Jack and his gang, the gang throws their bodies into the hole where Walt's money was found. From a writer's standpoint, it looks to me like this was done so Walt would have something to give to Skyler as leverage so she could cut a deal with the prosecutor (the lottery ticket with the coordinates to the burial site), but in-universe, was it necessary? It seems to me it wasn't necessary because it was mentioned in another folder that Jack and co. spared Walt possibly because they wanted the heat to stay on Heisenberg and the heat would eventually turn on them if Walt's body turned up. And the only evidence that I think Jack's crew left behind would be all those spent shell casings from their guns (can they even trace spent shells back to the gun that fired them?) and the tire tracks from their vehicles.
    • The Neo-Nazis just spent ages digging up the cash barrels. Now, they've got a big, deep hole that they need to fill in anyway. They probably don't feel like going off with the bodies (thus increasing their chances of getting caught with them), finding a new spot, digging a new hole, & filling in that hole. They don't anticipate it mattering to them that Walt happens to know the coordinates of the grave site (& indeed, in the end, it never does).

    Could Lydia have survived? 
  • When Walt tells Lydia that she is sick and will die from ricin poisoning, Lydia has what otherwise appeared to be a bad flu. Could she have made it to a hospital and used her connections and money for treatment? She may also have to use said resources to hide, perhaps in a secret hospital (like the one Gus had arranged) or in an isolation ward in a legitimate hospital. Depending on the interval between ingesting the ricin at the cafe and Walt's phone call (and other factors), what could she have done?
    • Well, Adrian Monk got almost fatally poisoned with ricin by hitman Joey Kazarinski in the finale of his show, and an antidote was made to save his life once the source of the poison was located. So ricin is treatable. However, once the symptoms start showing and it enters the bloodstream, for the most part, you're probably doomed. The difference between Monk being poisoned by Kazarinski and Lydia being poisoned by Walt is who made the ricin: Lydia was administered weapons-grade poison that was brewed by a master chemist, while Kazarinski used something that was probably derived from castor beans that also gave his victim more time to get treatment (not to mention Kazarinski's poison was probably weaker in nature). This means Lydia probably keeled over less than a day later.

    Gus's warning to Hank in "One Minute" 
  • To play both sides against each other, Gus puts out a hit on Hank but then tips Hank off by calling him and using a scrambler to disguise his voice. But when he makes the call, he says "They're approaching your car. You have one minute," as if he knows that Hank is sitting in his car right at that very moment. So how would Gus know that? Was he watching the attack from nearby or did he have his foot soldiers like Victor and/or Tyrus Kitt informing him on both Hank's movements and the Cousins' movements?
    • Likely the latter. Gus rarely conducted meth business publicly, so the likelihood that he himself would go out in the open where he knew a hit was about to take place is pretty low.

    A "One Minute" / "I See You" question 
  • On the recap page for "One Minute," it was noted that realistically, Marco should have had several of his ribs broken and his lungs punctured when Hank shot his vest at close range (seeing how we saw that accurately portrayed earlier in the same episode when they tried out the effectiveness of the vests by shooting the one being worn by the arms dealer who sold to them). So in this case, both Cousins would have survived. Had both Cousins lived, wouldn't it be a bit more difficult for Gus to silence them to keep them from talking to the police? Also, wouldn't this greatly affect the rest of the series (seeing how Hank wouldn't have been shot twice in the chest and thus, probably wouldn't be bedridden)?
    • Potentially, but not necessarily. Remember Tio Salamanca's refusal to talk to the DEA, even when it was to incriminate a man he despised? He hated Walter, but he hated the DEA even more. Chances are, this is a hatred he's instilled in his nephews, so the chance that they would go to the police isn't so great.

    About "Dead Freight"'s train 
  • Lydia explains that the methylamine tanker car departs from Long Beach and travels on via Flagstaff and New Mexico to get to Texas and Oklahoma. The heist supposedly happens in McKinley County, and, true, the Southern Transcon (which this tanker car likely is traveling on) does travel through that county. Wouldn't it be more likely for the tanker car to be in the middle of a long haul BNSF freight train as opposed to in the middle of what looks like a local branch train that delivers goods to local industries?

    The blame for Hank getting shot 
  • In "I See You," after Hank gets shot and is hospitalized, Marie projects her anger on Merkert and Gomez and blames Merkert for putting Hank into the situation since he was forced to follow protocol and confiscate Hank's gun; and once they remove themselves, she turns on Walt and blames him for causing Hank to learn Jesse's name. So who has the most blame outside of the Cousins for setting up the circumstances for Hank to get shot? Did Hank's superiors have some liability or was Marie just trying to find someone to blame?
    • Marie was just looking for someone to blame, a very understandable thing for someone in her shoes to do. Skyler even mentions this to her after she starts trying to blame Walt.
    • Marie is, understandably upset. This is her husband who just got shot and it's perfectly understandable that she'd want someone to blame. I'm sure many people have been through the same experience Marie goes through in this episode. From an out-of-show standpoint, I think that Walt has the most responsibility for causing Hank to be unarmed when he got shot: it was on Walt's orders that Saul had his secretary make that phone call to Hank to lure him away from the junkyard while Walt and Jesse got the RV destroyed. However, it also seems to me that there is no way anyone could have foreseen that Hank would be so pissed off upon finding that the call was a hoax that he would respond by assaulting Jesse. ASAC Merkert has a tiny bit of liability - namely, stripping Hank of his gun - but it's very small because he was merely following policies, and at the time that he ordered Hank to turn in his gun and badge, the only person who knew that there was a contract out on Hank's life happened to be the very person who ordered the attack - Gus.

    Fingerprints aren't used? 
  • After Tuco's death, Jesse is brought in for questioning. Hank is certain that Jesse was at Tuco's place because his car was found there. Why not use fingerprints to place him at the scene? I know he'd be able to explain away fingerprints on his car considering that he's the owner of it, but I doubt he'd be able to explain away any fingerprints of his inside the cabin (and I think he left prints on a couple of things, such as a water jug). Furthermore, Walt held the assault rifle that Tuco used at one point, so shouldn't some of his prints be on that gun? Or were they contaminated?
    • Contrary to popular belief, it's actually quite difficult to get viable fingerprints from a crime scene because a lot of people have touched things in an environment, and one would need to dust every surface and catalog and collect every print, assuming any of them are complete enough to identify. Also, guns are not the best items to have prints on them due to the material, uneven surfaces, and the number of people that touch them.

     Ignored confession 
  • So in the episode "Fly", Jesse gives Walt sleeping pills which causes Walt to babble as he starts drifting off, and one of the things he admits in passing is that "I went to [Jesse's] house" the night Jane died. How come Jesse doesn't react to this at all?
    • Walter went there twice on the same night, he decided to bring Jane the money in the evening and then after talking about parenting and stuff with her father he decided to come back when they were dead asleep. Jesse just assumed he was talking about the first time, that he could just not give in to Jane's blackmailing (and the realization of her threat would have probably sent Jesse to prison too and rid them of any hope of getting money anyway) and stick to not giving money on heroin. And Walt, though he surely feels most guilt about coming back, is also talking about the first time, as he mentions how he shouldn't have left home at all that evening and die right before he stepped out, not getting involved with Jane and her father ever.

     Hank's internal thinking 
  • I'm not the best at interpreting, but it's clear that Hank immediately has a My God, What Have I Done? reaction upon beating Jesse unconscious. Obviously, part of it is, "Oh my gosh, I just let my anger get the better of me". But during that scene, and when he's watching Jesse get loaded into the ambulance, could Hank have also been thinking, "What should have I done instead"? If he were thinking about what he should have done in response to the hoax phone call had he not let his anger cloud his judgment, what would be going through his head? To put it another way, what would Hank have done if he didn't beat Jesse up?
    • Who can say? What Jesse did was technically a prank call, and, to my knowledge, prank calls aren't illegal. Even if Hank confronted Jesse about the fake call, there isn't much legally that he could have done to get Jesse in trouble with the police. They'd think he was a scumbag, sure, but that's it. Essentially, the scene would have been irrelevant had Hank not beaten Jesse up.

    "I know a guy who knows a guy who knows Gus" 
  • In "Mandala", Gus's introductory episode, Saul says he doesn't know the name of the distributor he can get Walt and Jesse hooked up with, only knowing that the guy's got a reputation for being low-profile and has been in business for 20 years without being caught. However, it's suggested that the meeting with Gus was probably brokered through Mike. Better Call Saul makes it clear that Saul and Mike go back seven years back when Saul was just Jimmy McGill the underpaid public defender, and Mike was just a parking lot attendant. Since it's clear they've known each other for at least seven years, does Saul legitimately not know the name of the distributor or does he just pretend he doesn't know Gus to maintain plausible deniability?
    • Two possibilities:
      • A) Mike acts more like Gus' fixer, and he is not involved with the big decisions in the drug business with Gus usually, at least as far as bringing on a brand new supplier/manufacturer. In that case it could be that Saul would call Mike, but he'd relay it through to Victor, then onto Gus. Take into account that it was Victor who stopped Walter at Los Pollos Hermanos and told him where to make the drop and the deadline. So, off that, Victor seems to be more coordinated in the dealing aspect of the business, whereas Mike seems to be more into the "fixer" type stuff and running security details. Now one argument against this theory would be Gus' discussion in season 3 with Mike where Gus gives him the green light to take on Jesse's solo cook/product. So maybe any situation with brand new suppliers has to be run up the chain of command for that portion of the business first, and Victor has a closer correspondence with Gus in that case.
      • B) Saul is genuinely fearful of Gus and wants to stay as far away from any communication with him as possible so in some psychological way, he adds another middle guy to make him feel more distanced and to stay as far away from him as possible in the event that Walt ever wanted Saul to talk to Gus personally. He might not want any part in that. It's interesting how, at least in Breaking Bad, Saul and Gus remain at as far a distance as any in that world throughout the show to the point that they're never onscreen together. Almost everyone else in the business has some interaction or another of some kind, or at least come close, but Saul never goes anywhere near Gus. Or maybe Mike doesn't want Saul to know how close to Gus he is, so he makes it seem like he has to talk to someone else (like Victor) to get to Gus, because Gus doesn't want himself to appear easily accessible to Saul to keep his mysteriousness up, which draws in with the entire "hiding in plain sight" mantra that Gus lives by. If Gus was easily accessible, Saul could get the impression he could send anyone to him, whereas Gus wanted exclusive company only (and the answers to other questions make clear that Gus might be very particular about who he'll take on as suppliers). It's like that conversation after Victor's death where Mike tells Walter that he'll never see Gus again- Gus basically completely severs all contact with certain people and uses Mike as his shield from anyone he finds trivial or untrustworthy.
      • Of course, future seasons of Better Call Saul might explain how the entire system of communication between Saul, Mike, and Gus works.

    Hank didn't try calling 911? 
  • In "One Minute," Hank gets a phone call from Gus, who's using a scrambler to disguise his voice, telling him that the Cousins are coming. The moment Gus hangs up, Hank immediately calls Gomez, because he thinks it's a prank call but gets his voicemail. Then he sits in the car, looking for the two hitmen. Approximately 1 minute and 15 seconds later, they attack. In that 75 seconds that Hank had between when he attempted to call Gomez and when the Cousins attacked, why did he not bother to call 911? I keep thinking that while this might not prevent Hank from getting shot, it would've prevented the Cousins from getting away seeing how instead of the police knowing of the attack the moment 911 calls start flooding in from bystanders in the parking lot, there'd already have units en route by the time the Cousins attacked.
    • I think Hank didn't want to look like a little boy scared over a prank call. Before the twins appeared there wasn't any other indication that something really is wrong and he probably didn't want anybody to see him that nervous because of nothing, as it would damage that big tough guy image he's so inclined to keep. What I do wonder is why Hank didn't just drive the hell out of there...
      • OP here: Watching the scene again, Hank calls Gomez because he thinks it's a prank call. But in the middle of starting to chew out Gomez on voicemail, Hank suddenly stops and says, "Call me when you get this," which to me suggests that Hank did realize, "That was not a prank call." Admittedly, driving away probably would be an okay option. If anything, I might have done it - drive as fast as I can to the nearest police station where I know there will be armed backup to thwart any assassins who might be after me. I don't know how far the nearest police station is from that parking lot in real life, but I might consider that option.
    • There's also no way the police would have made it there in time to help anyway. Even if Hank had assumed the call was real and immediately called 911, the chance that they would have made it to him quickly enough to provide back up or prevent it is almost zero, as the twins were already on the scene and arrived at his car in barely over a minute.

    The search for Hank's body 
  • Weird question: based on the newspaper props from "Granite State", it seems like Hank's and Gomez's bodies hadn't turned up even two months after the events of "Ozymandias". Yet, why didn't the authorities try to get the GPS coordinates for the last phone call that Hank made before the Neo-Nazis showed up? They should have methods to determine where the phone call was made. Or, shouldn't someone have eventually driven through that part of the To'hajiilee reservation and noticed the shot-up car on the side of the road? I think that would narrow down the search area.
    • Hank's phone was a flip phone; it never looked to be a phone that would have GPS. Even phones with GPS don't send their coordinates with every call. The cell system would know which tower the phone was using (even if it wasn't in a call; as long as the phone had a signal) and a very approximate (especially considering how far apart towers are in the NM desert) azimuth... say within about a 60 degree angle... from tower to phone; an even more approximate estimate of distance might be obtained from the signal strength received by the tower. That would be a very slim clue. The shot-up Chrysler is a much better bet.

    The motive behind Victor's death 
  • I won't deny, Victor's death was impressive, shocking, and very well done since it made clear what Gus is capable of. But what was Gus's immediate or strongest motive for getting rid of Victor? So far, I can think of a few reasons why he chose to kill Victor, and chose to do right there and then in the way he did it:
    1. It's a horrifying and gruesome intimidation tactic. I say this because in my opinion, it is the most shockingly violent scene of the entire series, even more so than the prison assassinations in "Gliding Over All" or Gus's own death.
    2. Killing Victor means destroying a potential link to Gale's murder.
    3. In doing so, Gus quite literally corners Walt and Jesse, imprisons them, and forces them to be his only cooks. He removes the only other person (Victor) who purports to know Walt's formula. When he says, "Well? Get back to work," as he's leaving, in no uncertain terms, he's really saying "so long as you are alive, you will cook for me and you have no say in the matter." As Jesse notes to Walt in the following scene at the diner, while they made it out alive, Gus just made their lives a living hell.
    4. This is a bit of a stretch and actually ties in with reason #2: a fourth possible reason is that Victor had become a serious liability. After bringing in Jesse, Mike asks Victor if Jesse was seen. Victor says "No." Mike then asks, "What about you?" Victor reluctantly replies, "Yeah. So what?" as if being spotted by eyewitnesses was no big deal. Mike certainly called Gus off-camera and told him what had just happened, since Gus is aware that both Jesse and Walt are in the lab when he arrives. I think he went to the lab with the full intent of killing Victor in front of everyone. I see no hesitation or self-doubt in the killing, as it feels typical of the hyper-calculated Gus. He walks in, suits up, searches for a killing tool, paces around Walt and Jesse, and then kills Victor.
    5. Also tying to #2: Gale was Victor's responsibility. Failing to protect him was an act punishable by death. If you watch the scene again, you notice that Mike pulls out his pistol and points it at Gus the moment Gus starts slicing Victor's jugular vein. Perhaps Gus was putting the fear of failure into his "employees." His intent, as I see it, was to intimidate Walt and Jesse (and to some extent, also intimidate Mike, which explains Mike's unwavering loyalty) while also getting rid of a loose end. This action doesn't become justified until "Hermanos" when he's brought to the DEA for questioning and sees the police sketch of Victor.
    6. Relating to that is that perhaps, in Gus's eyes, Victor and Mike could also be partially responsible for what had happened to Gale. They had allowed Walt to find out where Gale lived, while he hid Jesse under their noses and carried out another act against Gus. Someone had to be killed as the penalty for failing to protect Gale. Victor knew this, and, for what it's worth, I think that he also knew that Gus would choose the one who held the least amount of importance to his business. That would at least explain why Victor decided to cook that batch of meth: he was desperately trying to show Gus he was more valuable, and that he could take Walt's place and that it would be Walt who would die, not him. Unfortunately for him, it just didn't work.

    Was there another solution other than poisoning Brock? 
  • Walt's poisoning of Brock was not a good thing to do at all. That said, there were very concrete reasons for doing it: Gus had just put a death sentence on Hank, and threatened Walt's family. Obviously Walt had to do something about this, and he felt that the only way he could do this was to get Jesse back on his side. Poisoning Brock and manipulating Jesse into thinking Gus did it was what he chose to do. I am not saying it was a good thing to do. But in view of the greater good (the needs of many outweigh the needs of the few), which was saving his family and Hank, maybe it wasn't so despicable as many make it out to be. That aside, was there any other solution that could have gotten Walt out of hot water with Gus, and averted danger, that didn't involve poisoning Brock?
    • Well I suppose if Walt wasn't so arrogant in his interactions with Jesse, telling him to go to Mexico, screw up like a dumb fuck he is and die or that nobody actually needs Jesse, they're just using him to get to Walt (even if it's true, there's really no need to tell your only possible friend there that he's nobody), he could be just talked into helping easily, especially with some crying over baby Holly fate promised by Gus. No?

    Hank and Gomez going out into the desert by themselves? 
  • I'm curious as to why Hank went out alone with Gomez. In real life, would Hank lose his job because he never guessed Walt was Heisenberg? ICYMI, Hank was the one who suspected Gus when everyone else didn't, so he's clearly one of the best DEA agents on the team. If Hank didn't suspect Walt, you can be sure nobody else would have done. So I don't understand why he did that fateful desert run with just Gomez and didn't bother to bring, say, a whole SWAT team along just in case things got dicey. I mean, OK, they probably couldn't account for Uncle Jack's crew showing up, but still, oversight maybe? Or did Hank's pride control his fate?

  • On a related note, why didn't he call for backup before confronting Jack's crew? Obviously backup would have gotten there late but at least it would have given the police something to work with and I'm sure his car had a GPS or something to locate it. Or was it his own ambition that he did not want to tell his colleagues since it was a 'secret' operation only he and Gomez knew of, and he wanted to benefit once he had Walt?
    • Hank and Gomez were working this case illegally. They withheld information, kidnapped Huell, made a deal with Jesse without consulting anyone, and essentially were taking the law into their own hands. No one knew about the intricacies of the case, specifically that Walter was Heisenberg, but the two of them, because Hank knew no one would ever believe his story that a former high school chemistry teacher with lung cancer was really a meth kingpin. Calling for backup would have meant having to explain what was happening, which was out of the question for Hank. As for why they didn't call after Jack's crew arrived, it's simple - there was no time. They were already in the middle of a standoff the minute they rolled up.

    Why did Walter Jr/Flynn call the cops on Walter? 
  • From my recollection of "Ozymandias," Skyler was the one in that scene acting completely erratic and out of control by stabbing Walter's arm with a kitchen knife, without any provocation whatsoever. Then all Walter did, in what I think anyone would see as self-defense, was try to restrain her and make her let go of the knife. Then Walter Jr/Flynn jumps between them, blocking Walter from Skyler, then calls the police claiming his dad is "being violent and attacking my mom." How is Walter the aggressor here? Look, I've heard this happens very often in real life domestic abuse cases where a girl attacks a guy, and if the guy retaliates in the slightest form possible, he's seen as the one in the wrong.

    I mean, okay, I can understand how Walt Jr. immediately deduced that Hank had been killed (he's just been told that Walt is a drug kingpin who has been arrested by his DEA agent uncle. Skyler has admitted to enabling him, hence the exchange in the car. Then Walt turns up, apparently not in handcuffs, disheveled, panic-stricken and desperate to get the family out of the house, without explanation. The obvious - and correct - conclusion is that Hank is dead, as nothing else could explain Walt's not-arrested presence in the house), and I can understand why Walt Jr. was obviously extremely disillusioned and furious with Walt, having learned that Walt was a drug lord and appears to have killed Hank. It just, in my opinion, it doesn't explain to me, why was Junior so quick to defend his mother, who is also far from being an innocent woman - since she was involved in the money laundering and whatnot - and whom he had just witnessed stab his own father with a knife, to which his father reacted to quite harmlessly, then felt obligated to tell the dispatcher "my dad is acting crazy and attacked my mom"?
    • I feel like you answered your own question. Skyler was passively involved in helping launder the money, and Junior was rightfully pissed about that, but as far as he knows, Walt just killed a man — a family member, to boot. Of course Junior's going to side with his mom over the man who literally just slaughtered his uncle.
      • That aside, it's an extremely gratifying moment - Walter Jr. spends the entire series siding with his father, insulting his mother to her face about the divorce and calling her names, not knowing that she's trying to escape Walter's increasingly tight grip. To have him finally understand in that moment what Skyler's been going through and been trying to do all along and stand up for her, defending her physically from Walter, was one of the best parts of that episode.

    Question about what was going through Walt's head in To'hajiilee 
  • When Walt drove out to the place where he buried his money, he is expecting Jesse to be there, but he's not. Walt then takes the battery out of his phone and ditches it. He then sees a vehicle coming up the road and then puts the battery back in the phone to call Jack. He tells Jack that Jesse is coming for him and to get down there right away to kill him. However, could Walt have taken the battery out of the phone because he realized it was a police set up? Jesse does not have the technology available to trace a cell phone call, so why would he take the battery out of his phone if he did not believe the police were after him? When he puts the battery back in, he tells Jack that it's Jesse who is after him. So since he took the battery out of his phone cause he thought it was a police set up, then wouldn't he assume that the police or Feds are in the vehicle, instead of just Jesse?
    • Hank, Jesse, and Gomez explain this when they cuff Walter - the details didn't matter, because all that Walter knew was that Jesse sent him a photo of a barrel of money, and claimed that this was his, and Walter went into a frenzy at the thought of losing his money, inadvertently driving to the real location and leading them there. The point of Jesse demanding that Walter stay on the phone was so the police could track him. As for why he takes the battery out of the phone, it's probably force of habit at this point; he's frequently discarding phones to keep from being tracked.

    Mike the Alcoholic 
  • After Gus kills Victor, we eventually see Mike having a drink in a bar. But this contrasts with what we know of Mike from Better Call Saul where he tells the investigators asking him about Hoffman and Fenskes' deaths that he's been trying to stay away from the bottle since he moved away from Philadelphia. Did Mike actually become an alcoholic after his son was killed, whether it was just an act so no one in the department would know he was looking into his son's death, or did Victor's death unhinge Mike just enough that he felt he needed to have a drink?
    • In Better Call Saul he was lying or at least had weak resolve, he was shown paying rounds at one point after pulling a successful heist and he keeps beer in his fridge.

    Gus's family 
  • In "Abiquiu", Gus has Walter over to his home for dinner. In this scene, Gus says that he doesn't have many opportunities to cook this particular dish because his kids won't eat it. This seems to imply that Gus has a family of some sort, but we never see them or hear about them again. It's possible that he may have been lying as a way to earn Walt's trust (since he knows from using Mike to do background checks, that Walt is a family man) but it's also possible that Gus really does have a family but keeps them at a safe distance from his business so they won't get hurt. Or maybe he was talking about someone else's kids altogether. It's a strange line that has always stuck out and made me wonder: does Gus have a family that he keeps at a distance or not?
    • Given how little we actually know about Gus's backstory, either possibility is valid. It seems the most likely that Gus does not have a family, as he is a business man first and having a family is a dangerous liability for someone in such a business. It's also implied that he and Max were a couple, with Word of God stating that this is a valid interpretation of their relationship, so if one subscribes to that belief, then it makes it even more likely that Gus does not have a family, unable to get over the violent murder of his lover.

    How come the DEA never thought of Jesse as a suspect in Hank's shooting? 
  • Yes, Leonel and Marco had tattoos on them denoting cartel affiliations. But why didn't the DEA suspect that Jesse could have hired those two to do it (yes, I know Jesse didn't hire them, Gus did)? I mean, look at it without knowing that Gus was the one who sent the Cousins after Hank. Here's what the DEA knows: Hank beat up Jesse, then barely a few hours after getting suspended for that, he got shot, but still manages to kill one of his attackers and cripples the other one, who conveniently dies before he can be questioned about the shooting. How can the DEA not possibly think Jesse may have hired them? For all they know, Jesse told one of his visitors in the hospital "I want you to get this fuck where he breathes! I want you to find this nancy-boy Hank Schrader, I want him dead! I want his family dead! I want his house burned to the ground! I wanna go there in the middle of the night and I wanna piss on his ashes!" and then that visitor could have hired the Cousins. Yes, it is assumable that the Cousins are cartel guys, but by disregarding Jesse completely, it is rather sloppy police work, because it is just as likely it could have been Jesse who hired them because of the coincidental timing of events. Yes, they fit the appearance of cartel guys, but until positively identified as Tuco's cousins, I think it hard to believe that the DEA would throw a coincidence out the window, without even considering it.
  • Put it another way, I would think the DEA would want to question Jesse about Hank getting shot. If I were Gomez, I would start by looking at suspects who had recent problems with Hank (and Merkert even says to Walt at the hospital something along the lines of "the shooting could be related to an investigation Hank was working on or a message to the DEA in general"). And it was only a few days since he beat Jesse up, so I think they would naturally think of that first. Jesse should be the first suspect they look into as well, before anyone else, or at least that's how I would treat it if I were Gomez: go to the most recent suspect, instead of skipping over him. Jesse would end up on radar because of that.
    • Because A) they will look like dumbasses harassing the same guy again ("oh before he killed Tuco but now he is best buddy with his cousins") and B) to the DEA Jessie is still a small fry.

    Did Walt actually do the right thing by letting Jane die? 
  • A lot of people keep harping on Jane's death as a major step towards, "Walt's descent into Hell", or a significant moment towards his Breaking Bad. While he certainly did make a pragmatic decision not to help Jane as she asphyxiated, I don't think he necessarily did it out of selfish or self- serving reasons. It is definitely true that she blackmailed him, and even threatened to potentially cause problems in the future, and that alone would be justification for him not helping her.

    However another reason that doesn't really get addressed, did Walt do it for Jesse? If you recall, the reason he ended up at that house was because he had just had a conversation with Jane's father about never giving up on family. That spurred him to go there to try and talk some sense into Jesse, in the hopes that he wouldn't throw his life away to addiction. When he saw Jane choking, and decided not to help her, I honestly think that what was best for Jesse was just as paramount in his head, if not more, than saving himself. It can't be a coincidence that right after that talk with Jane's dad, in the next scene he let Jane die. It was to save Jesse from her clutches, and simultaneously, himself. He knew that Jane had her hooks into Jesse, and Jesse being the weak-willed idiot that he was at the time, would follow her straight into a life of addiction and squalor. I don't think he was thinking of her blackmailing him, much as he was thinking about what was best for Jesse, because guess what? That's the sole reason he came to the house in the first place. It may have seemed cold, but considering that and what I've seen of some behind-the-scenes Bryan Cranston interviews, I think any father would have done as Walt did, if their son (or, in the case here, surrogate son) was on the path to full- blown degeneracy.

    It is with all that in mind that I think Walt may have done the right thing by letting Jane die. He saved any potential future turmoil for his biological family, and saved Jesse, who he considers a surrogate son, from a sure life of disaster and destruction.
    • Walt can perfectly make Jesse's life one of disaster and destruction without any heroin, and I wouldn't exactly call offing your son's girlfriend a thing every father would have done, but yes, there's some truth in that he was genuinely worried and came to talk, not to kill. But he also needed Jane's clutches out of Jesse to stick his own into, he just needed him sober while she liked him high, and when the opportunity to get Jane out of picture without making anyone suspicious presented itself, he went with it. I think that while he was on his way he was sincerely set on acting out of care, showing some love and offering help at last instead of scolding Jesse all the time - that's what Jane's father inspired him to do and that's why he went. But then he was suddenly given a chance to end a bunch of problems with a selfish easy solution and it got the best of him. And he recognizes that he wasn't exactly right when he dreams of dying a moment before he went and messed Jesse up thoroughly.

    Why do a lot of fans blame Hank for Mike's granddaughter? 
I've seen this on the IMDb boards. Even though Hank and Gomez threatened to seize Mike's hazard pay money from Kaylee, he was just using that as an interrogation method, to try to coerce Mike into telling them information that they want. Hank has no real authority over what would happen to Mike's money. He is just a DEA agent. The decision of what happens to Mike's money would rest in a judge, and maybe a governor, if you wanted to try to overturn it.

But since Hank does have that power, why do fans often blame him for where the money went afterwards? This is the United States and we have the Son of Sam Laws, which basically keep criminals from profiting off their crimes, laws that were approved by the American public. I doubt a lot of people who feel sorry for Kaylee would try to get that law overturned, just because of one episode of Breaking Bad.

People still believe in the law, yet they come down on Hank, even though it wasn't his call. Plus there doesn't seem to be any specific information on what would happen to Kaylee after. After all, she's being raised by her mother (Mike's daughter-in-law) and the money in her name was more or less meant to be part of a trust fund, correct?

    The train robbery wouldn't work in real life, would it? 
I really liked the set up for the job, and there was a heck of a build up with the good Samaritan helping Kuby get the truck off the track before they were done.

Except, would it be possible in real life? I keep thinking 'no' because there are several holes in the heist: For one, why aren't the train engineers suspicious? Just for the record, what are the chances a truck would break down perfectly on the tracks in the middle of nowhere? Usually when you break down you are rolling, you could avoid stopping exactly on the tracks. Once again, Kuby stopped the truck in the middle of nowhere, so you would assume as an outsider with no knowledge of the heist, that if he broke down he would have some momentum to either stop before he was exactly on the tracks, or be able coast beyond the tracks. No one in their right mind would stop exactly on the tracks unless they were deliberately stopping the truck there.

To me, this should have sent a red flag to the engineers of the train that something might be up. I wouldn't think they would just get out of the train and see "what's up". I'd think there would be some protocol if something like that happened, even in dark territory. I'd imagine they would notify the police that there was someone on the track. Yes, they may have been in dark territory where cell phones didn't work, but they could've told the cops about this once they got to an area with reception. I mean, if I was an engineer I would probably think something was up with a guy parked on the tracks in the middle of nowhere.

Also, how did they get the train to stop? It's very hard to stop a train with just a guy in the middle of the road waving his hands to get the attention of the engineers to stop. In real life, I don't think this would work because at that point it's too late for the train to get stopped completely. Plus, fully loaded freight trains can take up to a mile to stop (which is why you're always warned to NEVER try to beat a train at a grade crossing because the train can't stop on a dime). The train would be more than likely to hit the truck and move way past the intersection. This would ruin the heist considering that now the police are going to get called to investigate the collision between the train and the truck. Not to mention that they'll find evidence in the remains of the truck that might suggest it was deliberately parked - like the transmission being in the parked position.

Plus, the methylamine tank had seals on it. Jesse breaks a seal on the bottom, and Todd breaks a seal on the top. But these seals have numbers on them and they usually check to make sure the seals match the seal number on the Bill of Lading. Jesse and Todd put new seals on before the train takes off, but there is no way the new seals they put on would have the same numbers. There would have been no way of knowing what the seal numbers would have been. So the heist would be discovered a lot quicker, right?

     September 2011 doesn't add up 
  • As many have pointed out, the gaffe regarding Jack's remark about Osama bin Laden's death puts the show's dates into question, as the episode was set before, but written after, he was killed. Now, I could've ignored it as a parallel universe where Bin Laden was found earlier, but there is another issue, not with the year, but the month: in New Hampshire, when Walt prepares to return to Albuquerque, he escapes by hiding in a snow covered car. Now, New Hampshire is pretty snowy in the winter; hell, even as little as a month later, snow would have been plausible in the mountains. But not in early September.
    • The timeline is wanky. Here's my best guess: I think by the time Hank found out Walt was Heisenberg, it was sometime around January or February 2011, given Walt's and Todd's three month-cooking spree and 2010 being Walt's 51st birthday. I think, and this is just an educated guess: perhaps "Ozymandias" happened around late January or February of 2011, same for the first events in "Granite State", seeing how there's snow on the ground when Walt is disappeared and is dropped off at the cabin. "Granite State" ended sometime around, I think, late November/early December. That would give Walt almost nine months to grow a full head of hair. And maybe Walt's New Hampshire ID has a different birth date from his real one, which explains why he can have his meal free at that Denny's in November/December when his real birthday is in September. That's just my best guess.

    How plausible would the prison assassinations be if they happened in real life? 
  • The assassinations are great entertainment, I'll admit it. Quite Five Families-esque in its execution. But in real life, could you even take out ten guys in three jails in two minutes? Okay, somehow Uncle Jack was able to do it, but the logistics of it have to be insane to pull off that many hits in one go. Not to mention, all the guys who are doing it know they are being recorded on camera and that, when identified as the killers (either through video or fingerprints), they're going to have first-degree murder charges added on to whatever charges they were already facing (not to mention, in my opinion, the police probably will get them to talk and say who hired them). Furthermore, they are doing it in the central/day area where there are cameras everywhere. Now, okay, it's pretty clear that the guards were in on it, but that doesn't explain the cameras. Shouldn't the authorities have been able to link it back to Jack, and in turn to Walt, a lot faster?
    • In part, the murders are extremely unusual in the sense that they all happened at once. It's going to be blatantly obvious to even the most incompetent investigator that this had to be a coordinated assault, and the fact that nine of the ten were former associates of the Los Pollos Hermanos drug empire and the tenth was their former lawyer would reek of someone allied with Gus, like Heisenberg, killing them to cover his own tracks. A coordinated assault of this scale would naturally make the authorities - not just prison authorities, mind - extremely interested, especially the DEA and those who were trying to get information on Gus's drug empire out of them. They're going to quickly realize how those men are connected. I mean, the assassinations practically made the prison system look completely porous and incompetent, like it's open-season on inmates by whoever wants to settle a score or make sure no one talks. Stabbings, people set on fire, you name it. I very much doubt that law enforcement would let this massive assault pass. They're not just going to see it as an assault on prisoners, they're going to see it as an assault on their authority and power, period. A lot of hard questions are going to come up, externally and internally. They'd go all out trying to track down the plot's masterminds.
      • Weirder things have happened in a New Mexico prison before (See: New Mexico State Penitentiary Riot). While authorities would be very motivated to find out who was responsible for the killings, there is very little for them to go on. You're not going to get any answers out of an Aryan Brotherhood member (nor any inmate, for that matter). It's obvious that the murders were to silence any witnesses, but that's a motive from a suspect (or suspects) that hasn't been identified yet, not evidence. The most the department of corrections can get out of an investigation is adding on a couple more life sentences to guys who are already doing life.
    • Having hit done in jail isn't rare.

    Mike's lack of caution 
  • Okay, Mike is careful to wear nitrile gloves while cleaning up Jesse's apartment after Jane's death, but he removes them before leaving, so he left fingerprints on the doorknob. Isn't that a bit reckless for someone as meticulous as Mike?
    • How many people touches doorknob? It's not a precaution since it's not even a risk.

    Isn't Don Margolis a bit too old to be an air traffic controller? 
  • I say this because the FAA has a mandatory retirement age of 56, due to the job's inherent stress, and John de Lancie was 61 at the time the episode was filmed.
    • Could just be a minor case of Dawson Casting. Given the amount of stress Margolis is under both at work and in his family life, he could easily be a beaten-down 50something.

    Why do some fans criticize Hank for turning against Walt so easily? 
  • On some threads, I've seen a lot of fans hate how Hank turned on Walt so quickly and unquestionably, without maybe trying to understand Walt, and give him a chance. However, looking at it from Hank's point of view, can you really blame him? Walt murdered 10 people in prison. If I were Hank, and my brother-in-law, who seems like a completely innocent, honorable man, did that and I found out about it, I would probably turn against him in a heartbeat as well. How would I trust someone like that, that they wouldn't have you wacked for finding out too much information? What Hank did was just as much out of self-defense as it was out of seeking justice. He did become self-righteous later, like when he says "at least I can be the one who caught him", but again he might as well get some satisfaction out of it, since he has to protect himself and his wife, from a mass murderer, who is a threat to him. It's not like he aimed to kill Walt or anything, he just wanted to put a murderer behind bars.
  • Furthermore, when you think about it: Walt made things personal for Hank. It was in a moment of clarity that Hank realized that Walt masterminded the Marie automobile accident hoax to keep him distracted while Jesse and Walt destroyed the RV. He also realized that Walt knew his cell phone number and his wife's name. That tore Hank up, emotionally, when it happened. I wouldn't go so far as to blame his assaulting Jesse and getting suspended on Walt because that was just Hank letting his justified anger get the better of him. Nevertheless, Walt did this to protect his own ass. He knew Hank would bust him so he went below the belt and made it personal. It was a despicable act by a guy who claimed he was doing all this for his family.
    Furthermore, in "Crawl Space," while Walt was chauffeuring Hank around on unofficial stakeouts and surveillance work, Walt drove him into a traffic accident, despite the fact that Hank was willing to find another ride to the laundry (and in fact, in the very next episode, was able to send Gomez to do a preliminary search). Not only that, watch the accident again: Walt turned the car in such a way that the oncoming vehicle T-boned them on Hank's side of the car. If I were Hank, I'd have come to the conclusion that not only was Walt trying to keep me from finding out about his wrongdoings, he was also trying to paralyze me to stop any and all investigation efforts I've made.
    Then, there was the murdering of Mike's guys. To me, this wasn't what really pissed Hank off. It just confirmed how ruthless Heisenberg really was.
    I don't blame Hank for turning on Walt. I think he would have been disgusted by Walt making meth to begin with given how much that association could have jeopardized his career, which is even seen in the show when he realizes that drug money was used to pay for his rehab/physical therapy after he got shot. But you could tell his real anger during that garage scene came from the first two points I mentioned above.
    • And there was never an overreaction on Hank's behalf. Consider that once Hank found out he gave Walt an opportunity to come clean. If you also recall Walt threatened Hank in the scene inside his garage (even if he was never going to make good on his death threats because of what was mentioned above about Walt's reaction to Saul suggesting Hank be killed). Also consider everything Hank has gone through all because of Walt; this includes the shootout with Tuco that caused Hank some PTSD, him getting shot by the Cousins, leaving him confined to a wheelchair and having to learn to walk again. The car crash that Walt deliberately put him in, the incident with Jesse that almost cost him his career and all the countless deaths caused by Walt. And to think the entire time this was someone you trusted and was your family.
    • It's very simple - Walter is the protagonist. We follow Walter for two years, see things from his point of view, unconsciously root for him, whether we want to or not. Hank is the antagonist in this scenario, no matter what. For fans who genuinely liked Walter, they're going to automatically state that Hank was in the wrong for turning against Walter, although, objectively, Hank is reacting just as anyone experiencing such a dramatic betrayal from a loved family member would.

     Hank threatening to shoot Jesse... 
...in Rabid Dog. I know cops are allowed more discretion than your average person in a similar situation would, but Jesse was clearly threatening property, not human life. Even if he burned the house, he and Hank could both get out. So, why not stick to talking him down, tackle him, or just let him burn the damned house and throw arson onto the pile of charges that may or may not get dismissed if he testifies against Walt. In general I don't get why "burning down a house" is seen as a Moral Event Horizon on this of all shows.
  • Maybe, maybe not. The thing that gets me is that even though Walt may have come home just minutes after Jesse and Hank had left, the house realistically should have exploded, because gas sitting in a closed room like that would build up fumes and explode at the slightest spark. I've heard of cases where garages went up in flames because someone left an open gas can lying around and the fumes built up.

    If Mike hadn't been shot, would he let Gus threaten to kill Walt's family or not? 
  • It's convenient that Mike got shot during the escape from Don Eladio's place for the simple fact that it keeps him incapacitated during Walt's final showdown with Gus. Gus fires Walt and threatens to kill Hank and the rest of Walt's family including infant Holly. It's just me, but does anyone else think that, no matter how loyal he is to Gus, Mike would probably NOT be okay with Gus threatening to kill Walt's family (including infant Holly)? I mean, I can't imagine Mike being okay with Gus killing or threatening to kill a woman or an infant. I point to the "half measures" story Mike told to Walt about the wifebeater. The way Mike told the story, he seems genuinely against women or children getting hurt (although he almost made an exception to this rule in the form of Lydia). And there's the fact that Mike has greatly cared about providing financial support for both his daughter-in-law and granddaughter ever since the death of his son Matty. Given all this, would it be realistic to think that if Mike hadn't been shot, and Gus made the threats he did, Walt would probably have been able to coerce Mike into betraying Gus, under the right circumstances?
    • I further support this by pointing out how in Better Call Saul, Mike didn't exactly look too pleased about Hector threatening Kaylee's life.

    Lydia's poisoned Stevia 
  • How exactly did Walt get the ricin into Lydia's Stevia packet...and then manage to make the package appear factory sealed? I'm guessing he showed up before her and Todd's meeting and planted it in the little caddy that sits on the table. I know that sugar packets, at least the ones I've seen in similar restaurants, have that crimped end on them also, so how did he manage to replicate that seal?
    • Most likely when he was devising the plan, he obtained a tool to crimp such packages, put the ricin in, and sealed it up. He arrived at the restaurant before Lydia, and he mentions that she's a creature of habit, so most likely, she was seated at the same table as usual. He probably removed the extra Stevia packages and replaced them with the ricin package, since Lydia states that she needs more Stevia as she's putting the poisoned one into her drink. Really, though, I wouldn't think about it too hard.

    The "Marie's in an accident phone call" 
  • So Walt lures Hank away from the junkyard long enough for the RV to be destroyed by arranging for Saul's secretary to call Hank claiming Marie has been in an accident. Watching it, I can't help but point out: the ruse only worked because Hank was investigating by himself with no backup. What would Walt have to do if Hank had backup with him when he first arrived at the junkyard? I mean, if Gomez had been with Hank as opposed to being in El Paso (it strikes me that this is the entire reason from a narrative standpoint that Gomez even took that promotion to begin with), wouldn't Hank just leave him to secure the scene until the warrant arrived?
    • I think we have to remember that Walt didn't go in with a plan in the first place. He wasn't expecting to get cornered. He only made up the phone call thing on the spot, precisely *because* he knew that Hank was (at least apparently) alone. If Hank *hadn't* been alone, presumably either Walt would have figured out something else or...the series might have been over right then and there.

    Is Walt really that bad in comparison to other tv antiheroes? 
  • This is a meta question with maybe no real answer. But some people out there seem to view Walter White as the ultimate example of a TV villain. I mean, is he really 'bad' compared to others? I mean, take Tony Soprano or Nucky Thompson. One thing that sticks out to me about Tony and Nucky is how they both end up murdering their respective 'son' figures. Tony suffocates Chris, Nucky shoots Jimmy. With Walt and Jesse, Walt constantly tries to look out for Jesse even when others are telling him to kill him but Walt refuses even after Jesse almost burns down his house; he does end up relenting on this but in the end ends up rescuing him anyway.
    Also, the ending of Boardwalk Empire also sticks out to me. In Breaking Bad, Walt basically redeemed himself as much as he could in making things right. He goes out rescuing Jesse. In Boardwalk Empire, Nucky effectively washed his hands of the one person left he could help — Gillian — and it ends with him being killed by her grandson, which was juxtaposed with flashbacks of him giving her over to the Commodore. He in effect rejected redemption twice and sealed his fate.
    • Walt handed Jesse over to be tortured, enslaved, and possibly killed by the Neo-Nazis, and rubbed Jane's death in his face at the same time, both out of pure spite.
    • This question is much too subjective to be answered. Ultimately, it depends on your own values, and how you view Walter compared to those other antiheroes.

    Why is Todd Alquist such a shitty meth cook when he's doing it by himself? 
  • This is something I'd been bothered by, but I always thought it odd, why is Todd Alquist's meth complete garbage without Walt there to help, to the point that the Neo-Nazis' enslavement of Jesse was partially motivated by getting the purity level back up? But I couldn't help but notice a few details in earlier episodes:
    • In "Green Light," Walt gets upset at Jesse for cooking their formula by himself without Walt present. Walt calls it his formula, and Jesse calls it their formula. With Walt's sensitivity to people using his formula without permission, I was led to think that while maybe Todd wasn't nearly as good a cook as Jesse (FWIW, Todd doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who'd take chemistry classes), it could have a bit to do with the possibility that Walt deliberately left out a few steps with Todd.
    • Except, given how the idea above doesn't make sense since that would imply Todd was cut out of the cooking process during those key steps, I call back to the events of "Box Cutter", when Gus killed Victor. Right before this, Victor tried to cook a batch of Blue Sky by himself to prove that he'd learned the steps to Walt's process from observation. Now, for Victor, this was him making a last-ditch attempt to convince Gus to spare him. But Walt points out that being a "short order cook" following the recipe doesn't cut it. You need knowledge and experience to make a pristine product. Given how long Walt and Jesse had been cooking meth together even before they got involved in Gus's operation, it is easy to assume that Jesse got down all the nuances of the process, which is why the purity didn't drop at all even during the few times Jesse cooked by himself post-partnering-up-with-Walt. Todd may have been following Walt's meth recipe, but didn't factor in the nuances that Walt had been using. That could explain why Todd's product only got a 70% purity rate after Walt cashed out of the drug business.

    The superlab, pre-Gus 
  • So was the superlab beneath the laundry specifically excavated for the purpose of a meth lab, or was it created when the business was built as a basement area? Either way, they did significant modifications, like give the lab its own electrical feed (as identified by Hank) as well as HVAC for filtering and venting the lab equipment, which blended in with the laundry system.

    Superlab access 
  • Access to the lab is a bit vague, from what I could tell. Sometimes, characters enter by going down a set of stairs from beneath the one laundry machine...but then you enter the lab area thru a door and then go down steps...so there's an intermediate area between these? Why not just have the elevator there and no staircase? Wouldn't it be less suspicious than tipping the machine over? And why didn't Gomez see the elevator when he did his preliminary search of the laundry? Presumably Gomez took the drug-sniffing dog all over the laundry, surely they should've seen the elevator at some point and wondered where it went?

    How did Walt know that Gus was the man he was doing business with? 
  • Walt's good at reading people to judge how they'll react. That's how he's kept Jesse under his thumb, and in part factors into what he was expecting when he poisoned Brock. In the case of "Mandala," how Walt deduces that Gus is the mystery guy Saul has put him in contact with is visible onscreen: it's after nightfall, when Walt is pretty much the only customer still at Los Pollos Hermanos. He looks out the window at this point, and in the reflection, you can see Gus is behind Walt, cleaning tables. There's a moment where Gus looks up at the window. But look at the expression on his face: it's NOT the typical friendly demeanor we'd seen him using earlier when he was observing them in his managerial duties. From that, Walt put two and two together, being suspicious to begin with, and recalling what Saul told him prior to the meeting that the guy being a bit like Walt.

    Fingerprint problem 
  • After Tuco was downed by Hank, there had to have been a crime scene investigation. But did the police/DEA dust for fingerprints? From Hank's statement, not to mention an autopsy report, it would be obvious that someone else shot Tuco in the abdomen no less than five minutes before Hank arrived at the scene, and this other shooter can't have been Hector. Walt's prints likely weren't in the system (Walt probably hasn't had any arrests in the system), but there'd be numerous prints belonging to Jesse inside the compound, not just on his car (those can be explained away for obvious reasons).
    • A similar question was asked before - like the previous reply stated, fingerprints aren't as easy to obtain as one thinks, because of how many people are touching any given surface.

    How many hours per week did Walt work in Gus's lab? 
  • Gus's quota for Walt is to cook 200 pounds of meth per week. Yet Walt was able to make 42 pounds in one cook with just the small lab of the RV. The superlab has to be able to at least make double that in one cook session. Probably more. It seems like the maximum number of cooks per week he would need at the superlab would be 3. So does that mean he only worked 3 days a week?
    • Gus did tell him that he'd be able choose his own hours, so apparently it wasn't a full time job. It's a nice extra incencitive, and also less conspicuous this way.

    Coordinates 
  • Walt wrote down the coordinates of his stash - which became the location of Hank and Gomez's bodies - to the second (as in degrees, minutes, seconds). But plus-or-minus half a second of latitude and longitude describes a rectangle about 100x80 feet. The DEA would find the grave eventually, but the neo-Nazis were damned lucky to hit pay dirt so quickly.

     Two Minutes 
  • In Gliding Over All, Walt pays Jack and his gang to eliminate ten inmates in three prisons within two minutes. But why exactly did it have to be all within two minutes? It seems like it would have been less complicated to spread the window to, say, a couple hours, unless there was some good reason for such a short time span. Was it perhaps to avoid the chance of news getting out about some of Gus's associates being murdered in prison in time for the prisons to start increasing security for the remaining men?
    • For a simple reason: if you kill them all within just two minutes, there's no time for any of them to get placed into protective custody. If they were done one at a time, you can bet the other members of the Fring crew would've have been placed into protection.

    Was it the wifebeater incident that caused Mike to develop his "no half-measures" policy, or the truck heist? 
  • I like the "Half-Measures" speech Mike gives to Walt. It's him trying to explain to Walt that Jesse is a lost cause. Now, he describes the entire case with the wife-beater. But I keep thinking, why use that example? Why not use the fallout from his attack on Hector's money runner in Better Call Saul? That was also a perfect (and more recent) example of Mike using a half-measure when he should have taken a full measure.note 
    • Well besides the obvious it didn't exist yet it's not that much of a half measure than dumb bad luck. There was multiple ways the passerby could have lived if he didn't kill him and he could have also died for reporting the truck driver's corpse to the police on top of a gang war happening. Killing the truck driver isn't a full measure as much as oh I kill someone for fun now.

    Hank couldn't pay his own medical bills? 
  • So $144,000 of Walt's drug money was used to pay for Hank's physical therapy. But part of me thinks that Hank, as a DEA agent, should have already had a pretty decent health plan that would cover the therapists.
    • Just like Walt's cancer treatment, Hank's therapy was a premium treatment that wasn't covered under his insurance. It's meant to be a parallel of sorts.

     Hank and fund run calls 
  • Why is Hank the one making fund run calls in "Say My Name"? Being in charge of an entire district office, you'd think he'd be too busy for such things, and such a job would be someone else's responsibility.

     Money Laundering 
  • Couldn't Walt launder his money through gambling? It is the one area where you can (at least in theory) legitimately obtain a large sum of money in a short time with little to no effort. Blind luck doesn't care for backgrounds or personalities, and while everyone knows how unlikely it is to hit the jackpot, blind luck is also kinda hard to disprove. You don't need to cook any documents, leave any traces - the casino just lets the customer win for once. So what's stopping him from finding some less scroupulous casino owners, cut them in and "win" the money he needs? I understand that I cannot possibly be the first to think of this, so there must be some pitfalls, but at a glance I cannot see them, at least compared to the hardships and dangers they go through with their chosen method.
    • It's important to realize that such a tactic had been used earlier in season 3.
    • Exactly, and it worked without a hitch on a rather large sum. Granted, it was only used on Marie, but on the other hand, they didn't even actively do anything to back it up. Also it'd be quite plausible that Walt lapsed back into old habits.
    • That would completely collapse under any kind of scrutiny. Saying someone went on a hot streak for a couple weeks and won a sum of money is one thing, but the point of getting the car wash to launder Walt's money is that a) there's a crapton of it and b) it keeps coming. Reporting continuous gambling income will raise IRS red flags all over the place, and it wouldn't be correlated by the casino's books. Further, you'd be hard pressed to find a more heavily surveilled place on earth then a casino gaming floor, and Walt would never be on the tapes. When most people talk about casinos laundering money, it works in the opposite direction: players come in with dirty money and 'lose' it to the house. If Walt had gotten to own a casino, he'd be made in the shade, but it never got to that point.
    • The gambling story at first was to launder what money Walt had already made, with some of it going towards Hank's bills and another sum being the money used to buy the car wash, and then some rainy day money. Saul did say that he knows some casino owners who are willing to report false losses to allow phony documentation to be created. If done with, say, the meticulousness of forging documents to gaslight Chuck back in BCS, it might be possible to throw the government off the scent.

     Showdown in To'hajiilee 
  • Walt was clearly distraught when he saw that Jesse's "backup" turned out to be Hank, he tried to call Jack off, and when the Neo-Nazis did came, he screamed at them to back off. With all that in mind, why didn't he try to warn Hank? He wasted a lot of time hiding, then slowly coming to them, then fighting Jesse. He had to realize that Jack was very likely coming regardless, and that if he does come while the DEA are still there, it could only end in blood, didn't he? Neither would Hank have any reasons to disbelieve him - the money stash was already busted, there was no use for ruses at that point. It makes sense for him to keep quiet if he hoped that Jack's crew would free him, but again, the chances of it happening without Hank dying were next to none and he clearly didn't want that.
    • There are a few possible reasons why:
    • 1) He thought he could somehow talk everyone out of shooting. Walt was genuinely distraught when Jack shot Hank in the head, so it's clear that was not the outcome he intended for.
    • 2) Walt thought the Neo-Nazis thought too highly of Walt to disobey him. He made the mistake of working with people he couldn't trust and then doesn't have the street smarts to even realize it. We've seen Walt try to emulate Gus throughout season 5, but he's always failed because he doesn't have the same judgment that Gus ever had.

  • In the same scene, why didn't Hank and Gomez produce their badges as requested? Surely, it wouldn't have hurt? Whoever those sudden criminals were, they couldn't have been more willing to kill a couple of cops then a couple of Jesse's random mooks, could they?
    • They were dead men regardless. To produce their badges would mean taking their hands off their weapons. And these guys also have automatics.
    • Plus Hank is no dummy, they showed up because Walt called them and for all he knows Walt already told them about his obnoxious in-law cop.

    Does that nursing home have really crappy security? 
  • After Gus's death, it must not have taken long for the police to identify Gus. But wouldn't the police view cameras and whatnot to track Hector's activities and visitors on the days leading up the explosion? I am sure what seems like a fairly upscale nursing facility would have cameras in the halls and common rooms. I mean, assisted care facilities must have video cameras by law or at least insurance.
    • Put it another way: when Walt first pitched his plan to Hector in the nursing home, he was right in the common area, not Hector's room. This means that Walt would've had to walk right through the front door through the halls, in order to get to the common area to see Hector. So any cameras would've definitely picked up Walt. In fact, two episodes later, Hank, Gomez, and Merkert are talking about the investigation into Gus's death and acknowledge that, given Hector's immobility, it's obvious that another party supplied Hector with the bomb. Which would provide the police another reason to look at surveillance tapes.
    • I don't think they have camera in the common area or bedroom, I mean they are elderlies not criminals or reality show stars they have a right for privacy, especially when their sphincter is failling last thing they want is to be caught on tape. So all they have to go with is white bald person which describes pretty much every male over 20 in this alternate-reality of Albuquerque.

    Hank's surveillance logistics 
  • OK, so Hank had Gomez keep a couple officers on Jesse on this day, prior to Jesse heading to burn down Walt's house. They were stationed at Saul's office. So how did they know Jesse was there? On that day, Saul drove Jesse to the desert to meet with Walt, then took him back to his office and called Ed to arrange for Jesse's new life. Now, it's assumed Huell drove Jesse to the pickup point. Jesse comes back to Saul's upon realizing Walt's role in poisoning Brock, and left for Walt's house in Saul's car. Assume Jesse did not have his car at Saul's office. Assume Jesse never drove his car to any of these places, but they were watching him at Saul's. How would they know he was there?
    Yet at some point that day, Hank pulled the surveillance, then began trailing Jesse himself. Are we to believe that in that short window, they went to the desert and to the pickup point, while not being trailed? How unfortunate for Hank...they could have caught Walt in the desertnote  and/or followed Ed back to his shop, if this is the case.
    • Most likely, they were parked outside Saul's office, as Hank knows that Saul is Jesse's lawyer. Jesse most likely burst out of the office in a rage and made a scene, so Hank would know to keep an eye on him and follow him when he got into Saul's car. Alternately, there may have been officers parked outside Walt's house, or even Hank himself may have been waiting there, expecting something of this sort to occur.

    Jesse's parents and Jesse's neo-Nazi captivity 
  • Do you think Jesse's parents cared at all when Jesse was taken captive by the Neo-Nazi gang? In "Granite State", Lydia tells Todd that the police are looking for Jesse, which means that his disappearance was probably reported on the local TV stations in Albuquerque. Obviously Jesse's parents wouldn't know where he'd be if he was reported missing, but would they even care?

    "I suggest you tread lightly" 
  • When Walt said that line to Hank, was it a death threat directed at Hank, or was it a thinly veiled warning to Hank that he'd be getting into deep shit with Walt's former associates? I mean, the threat may not be necessarily "Walt is a danger to Hank's life," but because Walt knows that Hank's ruthless investigating into Walt's activities may cause him to encounter Uncle Jack and the skinheads and Lydia, people who'd be more than capable of killing him if he gets too close to their business. Consider that the worst thing Walt was planning to do to Hank was blackmail him with a mind game video "confession" that painted Hank as Heisenberg.
    • Most likely a threat. Hank says he doesn't know who Walter is - well, Walter is Heisenberg, the ruthless drug kingpin who could have Hank killed in the time it took him to blink. He doesn't want to do that, of course, but Hank doesn't know that, and Walter is using the vagueness of his words to instill some fear in Hank, and to hopefully get him to back off.

    Skyler's "affair" with Ted 
  • It feels like Skyler gets treated really unfairly by fans for a lot of reasons, but this is the biggest one. After Skyler tells Walter that she wants a divorce, and he refuses to give it to her, she fucks Ted. My question about this - why is it such a big deal? From Skyler's end, the relationship is effectively over. She's filing for divorce and all she's waiting for is for Walter to sign the paper. So why do so many fans hold it over her head that she did this? Is it really so bad for her to sleep with someone else after ending her marriage? And, more than that, why do people act like this is somehow worse than anything Walter does? Even if you want to class this as an affair, which it technically isn't, Walter kills, manipulates, abuses, and generally uses every single person in his life for his own personal gain. Skyler's worst ACTUAL crime is money laundering, which, though bad and associated with murder and narcotics production/trafficking, is a nonviolent crime and is something she ends up basically forced to do in two cases (first with Ted, then again with Walter). The show continually brings this up, too, as if it really is something Skyler needs to be held accountable for, and it just doesn't add up.
    • Because Skyler acts like it's a damn school romance. To want a divorce in exchange of silence on the husband drug's dealing is fine but instead of moving on with her threat, she just sleeps with another asshole who does white collar crime (and Skyler is actively covering for him and even steals money from Walt to pay Ted. It was also Skyler who had Saul send Huell and Kuby to strongarm Ted into writing the check when she figured out he wouldn't pay the taxes. So money laundering is not her only crime). She doesn't even like Ted to begin with. The affair was just to hurt Walt and needing a bedwarmer from the stress of having a cancerous criminal as a husband. Never once does she thinks of stopping it short by just going to Hank and telling him everything about Walt's manufacturing. Instead it's "let's sleep with someone else to piss him off I'm sure hijinks will ensue, it's not like a dying man who makes meth can do crazy things".
      • In Caballo Sin Nombre, Saul outlined why Skyler wouldn't go to the police: blowback. "If she blabs, it'll be a disaster Ė for her. That DEA brother-in-law? Screwed! You were right under his nose. He'll be lucky if they let him bust glue sniffers at the hobby shop. The kids? Paging Dr. Phil! 'My daddy's a drug dealer and my mommy turned him in!' And the house? Gone! The feds will come in and RICO her and the kids out on the street. Good luck arguing with them on that, noooo. It's not gonna happen. She's bluffing. And she knows it."
      • Yes and what happened with her course of action? Hank got killed. Walt Jr. went back to calling himself Flynn and almost had a breakdown hearing his father again. She lost the house. All because instead of pulling the band aid, Skyler decides to sink deeper, getting Ted crippled, Gus killed, and little Drew Sharp killed, because she decided to sleep with the metaphorical quaterback and later being a clear (if not unwilling) accomplice to Walt.
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