History Headscratchers / BreakingBad

17th May '17 2:21:27 PM dmcreif
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* Right after the RV incident Hank goes to "ask" Jessie about where the latter got his phone number, but how could he not realise that, in order to pull that prank call, Jessie, or his associates, had to know ''a lot'' more about him than just his phone number. That he's married. His wife's name. That she drives. That she's currently in the city. And they had to know it in advance, because I doubt even CIA could've just dug up all those details in a few minutes. I'm not saying Hank should've instantly made the direct connection, but this situation just screams "TheMole" to me, and yet Hank never seems to consider this possibility or try to find the rat.

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* Right after the RV incident Hank goes to "ask" Jessie Jesse about where the latter got his phone number, but how could he not realise realize that, in order to pull that prank call, Jessie, Jesse, or his associates, an accomplice, had to know ''a lot'' more about him than just his phone number. That he's married. His wife's name. That she drives. That she's currently in the city. And they had to know it in advance, because I doubt even the CIA could've just dug up all those details in a few minutes. I'm not saying Hank should've instantly made the direct connection, but this situation just screams "TheMole" to me, should be one that tells Hank "[[TheMole there's someone in your office who is secretly cooking meth with Jesse]]", and yet Hank never seems to consider this possibility or try to find the rat.
15th May '17 10:43:13 PM mistasofly
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** It's not out of character at all. The risk factor was actually very low. The owners coming back early by surprise is unlikely. Given that they have to handover their keys to the extermination people, and/or would more than likely call first to make sure it was safe to go inside. After all, would YOU just go strolling into your house like that in the process of it being bombed? I don't think so. And let's say by some small chance the owners DID barge in on them and catch them in the act. Most middle to upper class surbanites wouldn't know what meth cooking looks or smells like. Walt and Jesse could have just made up a story about mixing the chemicals for the bug gas or something, and say it's really not safe for them to be in there and hurry and usher them out. No one would be the wiser. The RV was a dead issue. It was destroyed, AND the cops were hip to the RV game, and the RV wouldn't have been big enough to accommodate their larger demands of product that was needed. It took them a week to cook 40 pounds in the RV. With the houses they get 50 pounds in ONE cook.
13th May '17 11:45:35 PM trixus
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** Well at first he was too busy driving angrily toward Jessie's house to even think, then he was too busy with the whole assault charge and then he got shot by the Cartel. He seemed to have forgotten about Jessie until season five because of all the escalation.
12th May '17 5:56:09 PM Gess
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* Right after the RV incident Hank goes to "ask" Jessie about where the latter got his phone number, but how could he not realise that, in order to pull that prank call, Jessie, or his associates, had to know ''a lot'' more about him than just his phone number. That he's married. His wife's name. That she drives. That she's currently in the city. And they had to know it in advance, because I doubt even CIA could've just dug up all those details in a few minutes. I'm not saying Hank should've instantly made the direct connection, but this situation just screams "TheMole" to me, and yet Hank never seems to consider this possibility or try to find the rat.
9th May '17 2:54:59 PM dmcreif
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** It's implied that when we first met Gus, he is working with the Mexican cartels only as a distributor within the US. As deduced by Walt, Gus's plans are to build his own superlab in Albuquerque, then sever all ties with the cartel and get the DEA to go to war with them, which explains why Gus redirects the Cousins to attack Hank. And he tips off Hank because he wanted there to be a shootout, causing bloodshed on both sides of the law, and gets the authorities to crack down on the cartel. In doing this, Gus then gets to control production AND distribution and eliminate his main competition. It's very likely that later seasons of ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' will provide some additional level of depth as to what Gus's role in the grand scheme of things was prior to ''Breaking Bad''.

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** It's implied that when we first met Gus, When Gus is introduced in season 3 of ''Series/BetterCallSaul'', he is working with the Mexican cartels only as a distributor within the US. And he is in competition with Hector. As deduced by Walt, Gus's plans are to build his own superlab in Albuquerque, then sever all ties with the cartel and get the DEA to go to war with them, which explains is why Gus redirects the Cousins to attack Hank. And he tips off Hank because he wanted there to be a shootout, causing bloodshed on both sides of the law, and gets the authorities to crack down on the cartel. In doing this, Gus then gets to control production AND distribution and eliminate his main competition. It's very likely that later seasons of ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' will provide some additional level of depth as to what Gus's role in the grand scheme of things was prior to ''Breaking Bad''.



** ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' establishes that Mike and Jimmy[=/=]Saul are on a ''quid pro quo'' relationship. Mike provides advice to Jimmy that helps him locate the Ketttlemans. In exchange, Jimmy helps Mike with his legal issues regarding potential murders he's alleged to have committed. In return, Mike helps Jimmy with his Kettleman problem by breaking in to their house to extract their embezzled money. Mike hires Jimmy to defend Daniel with the "squat cobbler" lies, in return, Jimmy represents Mike in regards to Mike's legal problems with Tuco. It's not yet established if this is still going on in ''Breaking Bad'', but it may be something like 'Mike bugs Walt's house, in exchange for Saul providing him information that could be of use to Gus'.

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** ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' establishes that Mike and Jimmy[=/=]Saul are on a ''quid pro quo'' relationship. Mike provides advice to Jimmy that helps him locate the Ketttlemans. In exchange, Jimmy helps Mike with his legal issues regarding potential murders he's alleged to have committed. In return, Mike helps Jimmy with his Kettleman problem by breaking in to their house to extract their embezzled money. Mike hires Jimmy to defend Daniel Wormald with the "squat cobbler" lies, in return, Jimmy represents Mike in regards to Mike's legal problems with Tuco.Tuco. Then Mike hires Jimmy to spy on a guy in Los Pollos Hermanos, and in exchange, Jimmy and Kim hire Mike to infiltrate Chuck's house to take photographs. It's not yet established if this is still going on in ''Breaking Bad'', but it may be something like 'Mike bugs Walt's house, in exchange for Saul providing him information that could be of use to Gus'.



*** After watching Mike's crusade against Hector Salamanca in ''Series/BetterCallSaul'', I think a few things came up: 1) the attacks definitely were happening on the north side of the border since there's no way the trucks would be allowed through a border crossing with heavily armed guards without arousing suspicion. Not to mention that Los Pollos doesn't seem to have any locations in Mexico. And 2) after Mike attacked one of Hector's trucks, Nacho mentioned that Hector's crew cleaned up the scene so that officially it never happened. Gus must have something similar ot this.

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*** After watching Mike's crusade against Hector Salamanca in ''Series/BetterCallSaul'', I think a few things came up: 1) the attacks definitely were happening on the north side of the border since there's no way the trucks would be allowed through a border crossing with heavily armed guards without arousing suspicion. Not to mention that Los Pollos doesn't seem to have any locations in Mexico. And 2) after Mike attacked one of Hector's trucks, Nacho mentioned that Hector's crew cleaned up the scene so that officially it never happened. Gus must have something similar ot to this.



** In ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' he was lying or at least had weak resolve, he was shown paying rounds at one point after pulling a successful heist and he keeps beer in his fridge.

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** In ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' he ''Series/BetterCallSaul'', Mike was lying or at least had weak resolve, he resolve. He was shown paying rounds for the house at one point after pulling a successful heist hitting Hector's first truck, and he keeps beer in his fridge.
9th May '17 2:48:28 PM dmcreif
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** When the Don asks for a toast you drink the fucking glass, all the capos had to drink or disrespect Eladio. Plus Gaff was a bodyguard while the fifteen capos could take care anyone inside the place (Eladio even send one to keep an eye on Guts). The moment the capos shows they were poisoned the guards have no reason to kill Guts for people who would be too dead to pay them with the exception of Salamanca.

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** When the Don asks for a toast toast, you drink the fucking glass, all glass. All the capos had to drink or they'd disrespect Eladio. Plus Gaff was a bodyguard while the fifteen capos could take care of anyone inside the place (Eladio even send one to keep an eye on Guts). Gus). The moment the capos shows show they were poisoned the guards have no reason to kill Guts Gus for people who would be too dead to pay them with the exception of Salamanca.Joaquin.



***They ''are'' illegal when you pose as a cop or firefighter or government official, and it is illegal to prank-call government officials, police departments, fire departments, ambulance services, etc. I mean, "swatting" incidents are prank calls. So there's that...



** ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' season 3, as of "Sunk Costs", seems to suggest that Saul probably was lying to give the impression that Gus was hard to reach. He interacts with Gus when Gus catches Jimmy in the act of snooping, trying to follow the bag man.

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** ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' season 3, as of "Sunk Costs", seems to suggest that Saul probably was lying to give the impression that Gus was hard to reach. He interacts interacted with Gus when Gus catches Jimmy caught him snooping in the act of snooping, trash can, trying to follow the bag man.man Mike had been tailing.
2nd May '17 10:03:54 PM trixus
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** Every known associates of Gus except Mike suddenly died violently in jail. Who is the prime suspect? Whose name might come out when they ask the deceased family if they ever talked about their shady work (which they did since the hazard pay works because at least one relative is aware where the money come from) ? Mike isn't in the same situation where like Walt he can just become a sociopath and kill everyone to keep his identity secret he is linked to those people.
2nd May '17 9:55:07 PM trixus
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** When the Don asks for a toast you drink the fucking glass, all the capos had to drink or disrespect Eladio. Plus Gaff was a bodyguard while the fifteen capos could take care anyone inside the place (Eladio even send one to keep an eye on Guts). The moment the capos shows they were poisoned the guards have no reason to kill Guts for people who would be too dead to pay them with the exception of Salamanca.
27th Apr '17 12:19:53 PM dmcreif
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** ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' season 3 reveals that Gus had close ties directly with Jimmy, meaning (like with many Saul anecdotes), suggesting that Saul is lying and might have set up Walt's meetings with Gus directly.

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** ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' season 3 reveals that Gus had close ties directly with Jimmy, meaning (like with many Saul anecdotes), suggesting 3, as of "Sunk Costs", seems to suggest that Saul is probably was lying and might have set up Walt's meetings to give the impression that Gus was hard to reach. He interacts with Gus directly.when Gus catches Jimmy in the act of snooping, trying to follow the bag man.
10th Apr '17 3:12:44 PM nombretomado
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* I love the show, but I've noticed a strange timeline error. The show mainly takes place in the year 2008, with it having recently had the year turn to 2009. However, Jesse is shown playing [[SegaSuperstars Sonic and Sega All-Star Racing]] on multiple occasions. However, this game came out in 2010, so it doesn't make sense that Jesse would have access to it.

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* I love the show, but I've noticed a strange timeline error. The show mainly takes place in the year 2008, with it having recently had the year turn to 2009. However, Jesse is shown playing [[SegaSuperstars ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic and Sega All-Star Racing]] Racing]]'' on multiple occasions. However, this game came out in 2010, so it doesn't make sense that Jesse would have access to it.
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