Fridge / Touhou

Fridge Brilliance
  • Day stages won't work in Immaterial and Missing Power if someone is playing as Remilia. Think about that for a second. She's a vampire.
    • Same thing in Scarlet Weather Rhapsody and Hisoutensoku, but even better in the latter: day stages won't work unless Remilia has a parasol (her unique system card, which provides a projectile-eating shield when activated) in her deck.
    • Actually in Scarlet Weather Rhapsody there are no day and night stage versions due to the weather system. When either (or both) players choose Remilia, the match is played on one of the two indoor stages - Patchouli's Library or Scarlet Devil Mansion Foyer, with BGM for the chosen stage playing. Strangely, Remilia can't fight on Iku's sea of clouds stage, even though it's dark and there's little to no sunlight (or visible weather effects) there. The situation gets even weirder in Hisoutensoku, where Remi is allowed to fight on yet another stage without the aforementioned parasol card. Illogically, it's not Yuyuko's garden (turned into a night stage in Hisoutensoku due to some bullets being hard to see with snow in the background in SWR). No, it's another indoor stage...a nuclear fusion reactor core! What?
      • So she can't handle the sun over the earth, but she can handle the one under the earth. Double what.
      • Vampires can't handle sunlight when it's a sign of life. However, "scientific" UV radiation often doesn't affect thematic vampires who sunlight is anathema because it represents life. Plus, the artificial solar power is from a dead god consumed from a hell raven. No thematic opposition there.
      • Remember, Our Vampires Are Different.
      • Well, in her win quote against Okuu she states that she rather dislikes the sun, and both Okuu and Remilia have their beaten-up portraits shown. So while it's possible that UV radiation might be harmful for her, it's likely that the radiation from the core is not enough compared to the true sun. Still makes little sense why she would be allowed to play on this particular stage, but yeah, Our Vampires Are Different.
  • Nue Houjuu's Theme Heian Alien almost sounds like Flandre Scarlet's Theme U.N Owen. I didn't really understand why it almost sounds like Flandre's, than it hit me - she's a Nue, that's what she want you to hear. It's an Illusion of Flandre, just like Nue makes the heroines think those flying objects are shaped like flying plate styled UFOs. Even the Extra Stage theme UFO Romance in the Night Sky can be an Illusion too. -P Miller 1
    • So Nue is Trolling the players. Surprised? Kogasa just broke the fourth wall with the word "Surprise" on the screen when she showed up earlier as the midboss. Nue took advantage of the break to play Flan's theme. -Sk8torchic
  • When I think about it deeply, Suwako's childishness in both behavior and appearance as according to fanwork portrayals nets some serious Fridge Brilliance points. She no longer has a kingdom to look after, and Kanako's taken over the shrine. As gods are capable of at least partial control over their appearance, and it's probably likely that reducing your physical form to that of a child saves on divine power, she chooses to downsize her body. Furthermore, as she was content to fade away as according to her profile, she probably let herself go in terms of seriousness and responsibilities, so she becomes more childish as a result. Chances are that if she feels the need to get serious, she'll suddenly stop goofing around childishly and bring out her full divine might. -Ace Of Scarabs
  • Another piece of delicious Fridge Brilliance I have concerns Flandre Scarlet. Comparing various pieces of canonical information on her, I have understood why she willing stays at home in the SDM. Basically, Flandre is able to understand that she may lose control over her temper or passions and end up destroying things she actually cares for, so she's willing to stay somewhere safe where things won't upset her easily. This is remarkable maturity for an unstable little vampire girl, which shows that she may yet become more stable! -Ace Of Scarabs
    • On another tangent, there's a pretty good reason why Flandre and Koishi are often partnered in fanart - Koishi's power is manipulating the subconscious, which is why she can minimize Flandre's urges to destroy. ~ Nitramy
  • ZUN's observation that Sakuya Izayoi must be able to control space as well as time makes perfect sense, even if his reasoning is highly suspect. Since her main power is freezing time, she'd have to be able to control space to do little things like move and breathe when time is stopped and everything else, including the air around her, is frozen in place. This also justifies her knife-filled Hammerspace.
    • Adding to that, her eyes become red when she's manipulate time isn't random or cool point, it's probably the Doppler effect happening due to the space between her eyes and the opponent's changed, thus change the wavelength of the light.(which still make it super cool though)
  • In Silent Sinner in Blue, Reimu provides an exposition that explains that Shinto gods are able to infinitely split their spirits, but in the cases of Suwako and Kanako - gods who still retain their earthly bodies - the spirit can split while the original body stays the same. Fast forward to 12.3, in which Sanae can call upon Suwako as an assist against Suwako herself, and suddenly what would normally be Fridge Logic makes perfect sense.
    • Of course, for those who don't really know much beyond the games, Suwako herself confirms this in her win dialogue against herself. -TARDISES
  • Parsee's Pointy Ears can be justified as body modification, or simply fakes— she's jealous of the cooler-looking inhuman youkai, and trying to imitate them. -Yuihime
  • Satori not being into fighting makes perfect sense because of her mind-reading power; she'd sense the pain her enemies were in when she hurt them. She'd rather try to frighten away hostiles or intruders, as she does to the player character. -Yuihime
  • The name of the one-man team ZUN formed, Shanghai Alice, describes the nature of Gensokyo - It's a fantastic wonderland set in the far east.
  • At first I didn't give it a lot of thought about why the Mega Man parody, Mega Mari, has Marisa as the protagonist. After all, she is the protagonist in many other games of this sort. Then it hit me: Marisa has a tendency to, ahem, "borrow" techniques and magic from enemies she fights. What does that remind you of? Yep, Mega Manning. -Fubu72
  • When Flandre is introduced she breakes the fourth wall. She breaks the fourth wall thanks to her power to break anything. -matteste
  • When listening to Flandre's Theme, The Centennial Festival for Magical Girls, I always assumed the sudden switch in mood, and chimes, were due to the title. And then I suddenly realized... Flandre's crystal wings would sound like chimes. And you're going through her basement. She's stalking you throughout the entire stage, and only appears to you once she thinks you're weak enough to kill and eat. -Rena The Archmage
  • Most of the characters in this series wear hats. Somewhere in Gensokyo there must be a haberdasher, and he's probably quite insane. ~Specialist290
    • There is a doujin that has Zun as a "villain", and he's called "The Mad Hatter." So at least one Japanese person agrees with you.
  • At first, I like many other fans thought that Kaguya and Mokou should've gotten over their rivalry a long time ago. After finally learning what Kaguya's ability was actually capable of doing, it's entirely possible that Kaguya used her powers on Mokou in order for Mokou's hatred of her to last forever. -raigakuren
    • If true, this would make Kaguya the biggest jerkass in the series.
      • She's gotta do SOMETHING for "fun", as would Mokou. That rivalry was suiting them just fine!
  • The title of the extra stage theme from Imperishable Night is "Extend Ash ~ Hourai Victim". The first part can seem a bit nonsensical, at least until you think about it. What word flashes over the screen when you get an extra life? Extend. And phoenixes gain life from their ashes. -Sone Anna
  • This might be a stretch, but in Letty's theme, "Crystallized Silver" in intervals there occurs a bleep sound that sounds like a cat. Who is the next stage's midboss and boss? Chen! She was watching you from afar.
  • Koishi's 3rd eye is blue, the color of blood without oxygen.
    • Er, well... blood doesn't actually turn blue without oxygen, but yes, veins do appear blue when viewed through the skin because of a lack of oxygen. So the point's still valid.
  • In Silent Sinner in Blue Yorihime sends Sakuya's knives back towards her, and she ends up boxed in by them and has to surrender. This is doubly funny if you've played EoSD - boxing you in is what almost all of Sakuya's attack patterns are designed to do.
  • The Boss Subtitles characters get in Wild and Horned Hermit tend to be much less flattering than the ones they get in the games. (e.g. Sanae gets "Shallow and thoughtless human" instead of "Deified human of the wind"). Well, Kasen is known to be rather judgemental, isn't she? They probably represent her opinion of the various folks she meets.
  • ZUN says that when Reimu uses Fantasy Heaven she can't be beaten by any method, one might think that one of the many powerful characters could just warp reality and win against her that way. However remember that they are Reality Warpers, then how the hell do you warp something that's outside of reality? She simply is out of reach. -matteste
    • Take reality itself and attempt to wrap it around her and drag her bubble of nonreality existence back into reality? -nedben
  • Next time you're playing Perfect Cherry Blossom on Hard or lower, take a close look at the progression of "Blue Sign: Benevolent French Dolls." The bullets start out blue, become white when they reverse direction and multiply, then turn red when they do it again. Blue, white and red? How about bleu, blanc, et rouge, the colors of the French flag? -Linhasxoc
  • Akyuu's monologue tells that youkai don't eat humans anymore, so when Rumia ask if she can eat Reimu, she's following that saying "asking doesn't offend".
  • In Hopeless Masquerade one might think that all these background characters are only for Continuity Cavalcade purposes however since this game is based around popularity it gets kinda hard to get more popular if you don't have a crowd to view the spectacle. -matteste
  • Symposium of Post-Mysticism reveals that Yamame finds the stressed visitors of Byakuren's temple to be particularly delectable. Stress makes you more prone to illness. Which also means that if you get plagued by Yamame, what's going on is that she's using the malady to steal a bit of your vitality, kind of like a mosquito or lamprey.
  • In most games, Stage 4 is notorious for a Difficulty Spike compared to the first three stages. Then look again at when our main heroines, Reimu and Marisa, became bosses. They were always Stage 4 bosses (excluding Phantasmagoria and fighting games). That means Stage 4 is hard because it's when things are starting to match our heroines' abilities. The previous stages were just warming ups to them.
  • Reimu's donation box is always empty, and the shrine never gets any worshipers. So how does Reimu survive? Gensokyo is a place where the unbelievable is made manifest, so a failed shrine somehow providing a comfortable living for its miko is perfectly logical. -Umbra Fractus
  • Both characters and players have wondered what Nitori is doing in Hopeless Masquerade, considering its plot revolves around competition between religions. It makes more sense when you consider that in most modern religious disputes science is often a major player even when it's not an outright antagonist. -Umbra Fractus
  • Rin Satsuki is speculated by many that she was supposed to be a kirin. Look at her name, in Japanese order: Satsuki Rin.
  • Many wonder why Byakuren is a much more physical fighter in Hopeless Masquerade. Before she was sealed away, she was a Priestess of Bishamonten, a war god.
    • Her profile in UFO did mention that she specialize in body ehnancing (as in strength, speed or durability) magic.
  • Marisa is described as hardworking and always trying out new spells, while Reimu is Brilliant, but Lazy. This is reflected in the games from Mountain of faith onwards. In each game Marisa always get some new, non-orthodox shot-types (or new versions of her old shot-types, in the case of Ten Desires), while Reimu always stick to her Homing Amulet and Persuasion Needle most of the time.
    • It's been even reflected throughout the majority of the series. Reimu's shot types are either Spread Shots or homing shots, two shot types that allow the player to strike everywhere with minimal movement and effort. She's also slow, to balance out her property of being able to hit most of the screen while staying in one place. Marisa's shot types are more linear and precise. Not only does she, as a result, have to be more productive and move around to hit targets, she's also fast-moving, making her well-suited for that requirement.
  • One might wonder why, despite all of Seija's trickery as a stage 5 boss in Double Dealing Character, the heroine comments that she was surprisingly easy after the fact. That may be because their perspective never actually changes; they still look in her direction, it's just the player's view that's changed. From their perspective, it's true; her spells are very mundane.
    • Her shot type in Impossible Spell Card does more damage the closer you are to the boss, when in a Bullet Hell game, it's typically suggested to keep your distance. But considering who she is...
  • It's always upset me how rarely Reimu is depicted cosplaying in fan works compared to other characters, despite her being the most popular overall. But it does make sense, given how Reimu is an honest type of person while, say, Marisa, who cosplays much more often, is a known liar.
  • Spellcard Suika is one of the easiest in Impossible Spell Card, even if you do not use items. The game is based on the idea of ​​breaking the rules, and Suika Will Not Tell a Lie.
  • The Aki sisters being...sisters makes even more sense when you realize their domains are the same thing, but for different species. It's not just autumn. Why do leaves turn brown? The tree is harvesting the nutrients into their trunks for storage for the winter; just like how people harvest crops and store them. (A feast was one of the ways ancient people stored food; eat a lot of it in case storage goes bad then you've got fat for the winter, if nothing else.) Shizuha would get more respect if there were "tree" based youkai or dryads in Gensokyo. (Flower-based Youkai like Yuuka don't care; plus sunflowers are annual, they only live one year, so surviving the winter is not an issue; it's their seeds that come up the next spring.)
  • The Scarlet Team and the Netherworld Team fighting Reimu and Marisa, respectively doesn't make too much at first. Then you realize those previously mentioned teams whose members were adversaries who were previously defeated by them in their previous journeys.
  • Most of Koishi's spellcards in Hopeless Masquerade have her being impulsive and careless as normal, except for one: "Suppression: 'Super-Ego'", where she slips into a Troubled Fetal Position. Why is this? Well, think about Koishi's backstory for a second: she closed her Third Eye so she wouldn't have to read minds anymore, but this also made her unable to think rationally. In other words, she's suppressing her super-ego; the spellcard is a reference to her origins, and during the spellcard it's almost as if she's trying to force her super-ego back down. Indeed, the sudden reemergence of all those suppressed emotions is not going to be pleasant. -SLthePyro
  • Cirno is typically associated with a 9 in a circle. In Dante's Inferno, the ninth circle of Hell is presented as an icy prison for its inhabitants.
    • Same goes for Mai. Her personality and the title of her theme music may be a reference to the ninth circle of Hell, which represents treacherous sin with the frozen river named Cocytus, where the biblical traitor Judas Iscariot is being tortured for all eternity.
  • I always thought that the songs present in PoFV sounded a bit... empty, for lack of a better expression, as if channels were missing from them. Then I actually played the game and realised this might be intentional. At any given moment, the sound effects will make twice the amount of noise made in one Bullet Hell. If the music had been as elaborate as it tends to be in the other games, it would all probably sound like a cluttered mess. While I still prefer certain covers, it now makes sense why ZUN would write them like he did.
  • Junko has, contrary to almost all other named characters, no expository Boss Subtitles. This is because she has purified herself to the point where "Junko" is all she is. Clownpiece's subtitle, "Fairy of Hell", is just a direct description of what she is with no additional flair what so ever. Junko has purified her, too.
  • Hecatia threw in her support to Junko because Chang'e's husband apparently killed Apollo along with Junko's son. Hecate is traditionally an aspect of the moon goddess Artemis, Apollo's twin sister. Junko isn't the only woman out to avenge a family member.
  • Why do the Lunarian and moon rabbit bosses of Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom know how to use Spell Cards? It's very likely that Yorihime introduced the concept to the Lunarians at large following the events of Silent Sinner in Blue, and the "Eagle Ravi" Earth Recon Unit was likely watching over Gensokyo for a while as they made preparations.
  • Why is Koishi so friendly in demeanor despite closing her third eye and being emotionless? Because of her condition Koishi acts upon her desires alone, and prior to closing her third eye she wanted to make friends, so she acts fairly friendly despite most of the time feeling nothing behind it.
  • If one really thinks about it, the series use of the Unreliable Narrator makes a whole lot of sense when looked at from the narrative as a whole. Namely that it has paradoxes like Schrödinger's Butterfly and Schrödinger's Cat as it's central recurring theme. Remember that those paradoxes only remain as long as they aren't directly observed, and the Unreliable Narrator ties directly into that. If we where ever to know the full truth, then we would observe a state of the paradox and give it form, thus causing it to break down and no longer be a paradox.

Fridge Horror
  • In Phantasmagoria of Flower View, each character has their own unique ability, such as Reimu's smaller hitbox and Tewi's autobomb when she can only take one more hit. Medicine's is that she won't get hurt if she collides with a spirit. You later find out in her final stage that spirits who do not realise they've died are still trying to use her and possess her. They won't hurt her, because they're trying to do something a lot worse.
  • Yukari has a habit of bringing people she likes into Gensoukyou. And if they don't manage to find the only human village before they are discovered, they will be eaten. No exceptions. In other words, Yukari is behind the disappearance and death of possibly hundreds, if not thousands, of people. Including children. And considering the hands and eyes in her gaps, the ones who died are most likely the lucky ones.
  • On the note of Yukari... her abilities. How many boundaries are there that could spell doom? Boundary of fantasy and reality is the quite clear example (and actually is observable in universe as the Hakurei Barrier), but this troper noticed another, more dangerous boundary: Boundary of real and false vacuum. If she wanted to she not only could destroy the world, but the entire universe.
  • Yuyuko intended to steal the essence of spring from Gensoukyou and use it to awaken the Saigyou Ayakashi. While true that she didn't know the Ayakashi was an Eldritch Abomination, she couldn't have missed that stealing the spring would have plunged Gensoukyou into eternal winter, killing all of the plants and dooming the inhabitants to starvation. And she was Easily Forgiven, just like everyone else.
    • The fact that she's Easily Forgiven might have something to do with the fact that she's Yukari's friend... ah, the fringe benefits! Plus, Reimu doesn't seem to be exactly dedicated to her job, so it's likely that, after she stopped Yuyuko, she simply didn't care about punishing her. When she gets hit close to home, like in SWR, however...
    • Well, it's implied Yuyuko was intending to give the spring back to Gensokyo once the cherry tree bloom, actually. She just didn't know the tree was evil.
  • Utsuho was essentially a living star that intended to Take Over the World and convert the surface into a blasted hellscape. And even she was Easily Forgiven.
    • Utsuho has an excuse though, since she was driven temporarily mad by the power she was given. She wasn't a threat any more once sense was knocked back into her by the player character. The real problem comes with the person who made her this way, Kanako, who originally intended to use her to create a power plant. While that goal in itself isn't really bad, it doesn't change the fact that the events of Subterranean Animism wouldn't have happened if she hadn't tried to turn Utsuho into a living nuclear battery.
  • About half of the characters' inferred backstories aren't exactly nice. Medicine was abandoned, Reimu was abandoned, Reisen is a traitor to the moon people, Alice may have wiped out a lot of people/youkai, Sakuya may be a serial killernote ...
  • All those cakes and tea and sweets that fanart likes to show the Scarlet sisters enjoying? If you read Flandre's profile provided in EoSD, it pretty strongly suggests that they all contain human blood.
    • Fanart of Sakuya making/enjoying those herself. Blood-drinking serial killer from the moon!
  • Stage 3 of Ten Desires shows the cemetery of the Myouren Temple. The temple was founded only two years before. Yet, that's an extremely large number of graves.
    • At least some of the graves have to be older than the cemetary, and have been transported there to help the deceased pass on to the afterlife.
  • Gensokyou's existence is bound to Reimu's. Then what would happen if an Omnicidal Maniac rolled along and decided to go for Reimu as the most efficient way.
    • They'll be killed by Reimu (or Yukari), of course. There's a reason no one dare to disrespect her.(one of them is Fantasy Heaven).
  • Tenshi's theme and apparent origin both reference Bhava-Agra, also known as Naivasaṃjñānāsaṃjñāyatana. Here's the wiki entry:
    Naivasaṃjñānāsaṃjñāyatana or Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana (Tib: 'du shes med 'du shes med min) "Sphere of neither perception nor non-perception". In this sphere the formless beings have gone beyond a mere negation of perception and have attained a liminal state where they do not engage in "perception" (saṃjñā, recognition of particulars by their marks) but are not wholly unconscious. This was the sphere reached by Udraka Rāmaputra (Pāli: Uddaka Rāmaputta), the second of the Buddha's two teachers, who considered it equivalent to enlightenment.
    • ZUN has been merciful. The place is clearly at least physical. But it's still a place where everyone around her doesn't notice her at all. Or not notice her, but they certainly aren't giving her attention. That is no place for a child.
      • Well that would certainly explain her desire for attention.
  • Komeiji Koishi embodies Lust in SA's "deadly sins" theme, and is infamous for her suggestively-shaped shots in "The Embers of Love". She also can't be remembered by anyone once they've stopped looking at her, and is apparently an "imaginary friend" afterward... what if she's a rapist? How would you know if she'd raped someone? How would you know if she'd raped you? I'd wager that there's a few too many people in Gensokyo who have vivid "dreams" about a certain white-haired someone in a green skirt.
  • In Wild and Horned Hermit multiple characters drink from Kasen's box, which causes them to become as loudmouthed and aggressive as an oni. It's implied that Yuuka was one of them. Let's hope that nobody got remotely close to her afterwards.
  • In Hopeless Masquerade, Nitori appears with a shirikodama in hand. It's implied that she got it from a random person in the crowd at the temple. Considering the process by which that sort of thing is obtained...
    • Considering the removal tends to be fatal note  that means she probably killed some random and is still gaining popularity! Clearly the poor Butt Monkey wasn't very popular.
    • One of her cards in Double Spoiler is Kappa "Dried Shirikodama." And this being Bullet Hell, she has a lot of them... Even Aya wonders how many people were sacrificed to make that many. Hatate just wonders if Nitori's a gourmet since she eats them.
  • Seija's personality is always opposite to those around her so what if she encountered an extremely pure and good character? Would we then have an Ultimate Evil or a Monster on our hands?
  • Doubling over with Fridge Tear Jerker: Yamabiko used to be pretty common youkai. When rumors started circulating about how echoes are actually just soundwaves being reflected off surfaces, many humans stopped shouting at the mountains, which has resulted in the death of many yamabiko. Right now, the species are facing extinction... Kyouko is the only yamabiko we've been introduced to so far, but she seems pretty cheerful for a being that might disappear in a Puff of Logic, so maybe the situation really isn't so bad? ...except... Kyouko is currently a priest in-training at the Buddhist Myouren temple. One of the core teachings in Buddhism is to accept that all worldly things are transitory and, to spare oneself from suffering, let go of one's attachments to the world... Kyouko might be cheerful despite the grave situation the yamabiko are in because she has come to terms with the fact that she, and her entire species, are going to fade away.
  • It was said that the reason Koishi can only act subconsciously is because she can't read her own mind. This means that her conscious mind is trapped in And I Must Scream situation. No wonder Satori didn't follow her example.
  • What will happen to Mokou and Kaguya in the future? Hint: the sun will deplete it's hydrogen supply, growing big enough to destroy the Earth, then collapse, and then the entire universe will decay as it tends toward maximum entropy. Where does that leave them? Dying and resurrecting in hard vacuum, forever!!!
  • Wild and Hornet Hermit reveals that not only objects but real living creatures and individuals can end up entering Gensokyou if forgotten by those around them. So that brings the question, just how many humans ended up entering Gensokyou by simply being forgotten while still alive?
    • Kasen also brings up another point, what if they also ended up forgotten in Gensokyou?
  • In Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom, Sagume notes that Marisa is a human... which is fine and all, except Sagume's power is that the opposite of whatever she says comes true. Is Marisa going to turn into a youkai because of this?
    • Well, magician in there aren't really "human". So that's probably what she meant.
      • Except that's not how Sagume's ability works. Sagume's ability only works on situations of events, so if her ability really worked that way, then some bits of her dialogue (e.g "You're terribly strong.", "The people of the moon aren't aware of any of this, though.") would've completely changed the storyline, so your point is null and void.
  • This one is not canon, but goes for Sengoku Gensoukyou (a fangame which does not have a TV Tropes entry... yet). Every available species has Red Shirts with minor variations of the same portraits and names. Those names range from mundane to Narmfully bizarre (Rokusuke Boozer - yes, Boozer is his last name) to... Child Ghost. Said ghost has such low stats, they will likely hurt themselves more than the opponent from a melee attack. There is nothing keeping you from keeping this child in your prison forever, either. (On a semi-related note, your prisoners are always at 1 HP and need to be healed at the start of the turn after you recruit them, which makes you wonder what the conditions in that prison are like...)
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