Fridge / Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth

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  • This Troper just got hit by understanding a pun stretching back to the first Phoenix Wright title while he was playing Ace Attorney Investigations. In the first game, there was a creature introduced as the "mascot of the police force", the Blue Badger, a creature that looks almost but not entirely unlike a badger. It struck him as weird, but then it was Phoenix Wright, so he didn't care. Cue Case 3 of AAI, where a character observes that the word "Badge" is right in the Blue Badger's name. And then the weird shape of the Blue Badger's head suddenly made sense... and a grimace that can only be caused by being hit with a pun that has been waiting to strike for three years crossed his face. YMMV, but it hurt here.
    • Well, the shape of the Blue Badger was determined by Ema Skye drawing a jar that fell during the SL-9 incident, which the chief detective used as inspiration. And while the police badge of Los Tokyo Angeles is never seen, if it resembled the Blue Badger's head, that might explain the 'Badge' in the Name. e.g. The shape of the Blue Badger determined it's name, not the other way round. ~The Kay One
      • The Blue Badger may be the shape of a badge, but definitely not the police forces badge. We have seen the badge of the police force; it's the yellow circle with the other yellow circle inside of it, and it's visible all over the place in case 1-5. Jake Marshall's poncho clasp, Mike Meekins' hat, Gant's tie and suit buttons... It also shows up briefly in Fullbright's badge, wallet, thing, and I think on a couple guards in AAI 2.
  • I'd heard people talking about how the last villian of Investigations was unimpressive and lacking backstory (or that their backstory didn't clearly lead to the person they had become). Then when I played through it myself, I saw this line:
    Edgeworth: Is every life not valuable?
    Villain: That doesn't even warrant an answer.
    • The logic here is Alba is a war hero. Of course a soldier would have been conditioned to not value the lives of others. Suddenly, his lack of empathy and willingness to eliminate his underlings made perfect sense.
      • There's a part where Edgeworth thinks, "how can that person be so proud, knowing they took life?" Taking life is probably related to what Alba did that got him some of those badges. The idea of "you shouldn't be proud of ending human lives" may feel different to someone who has been decorated for it.
      • It could also be interpreted as another reason why they are such a horrible person. When many soldiers end up with PTSD over the things they do, it makes the villain look sociopathic.
      • There's also the parallels between Edgeworth's prosecutor badge and Alba's medals. Edgeworth's distaste for this particular villain's mindset is probably at least partly rooted in his former dedication to Von Karma's belief that any underhanded tactics are acceptable if it means the prosecution gets a flawless victory every time. Edgeworth himself had to go through a lot of crap to get himself on the path to the truth while still having a frankly heroic amount of respect for his former mentor (that is, any at all), and in the final confrontation with this villain, he's basically staring the future he avoided in the face.
      • Keep in mind what exactly Edgeworth's job is. The people he prosecute are often put away for life or given the death penalty. Killing for sport is exactly what prosecutors are doing by going outside of the law to get a perfect win record, exactly what Edgeworth's former mentor and to a lesser extent Edgeworth himself was doing not so long ago.
  • In case I-3, Shi-Long Lang uses the fact that guns are hard to get as part of the rationality behind accusing a policeman of shooting the victim. Hence, policemen are the ones most likely to have guns. And who held Edgeworth at gunpoint in his office? A detective.
  • In I-1, a piece of testimony describes two pieces of evidence from "that case the other day" - a gun and a pendant. Then I-3 rolls around and, indeed, the gun and the pendant turn out to be important pieces of evidence in that case! Hard to make the connection unless you've already seen I-3 when playing through I-1 the first time.
  • This isn't Fridge Brilliance, but Fridge Horror: So the Yatagarasu goes out, finds out a companies deepest dirtiest secrets and then spills it to the press. Aside from the fact that they intend to do good...isn't that pretty much what Redd White did, minus the blackmail?
    • Minus the blackmail. The line between a good guy and a bad guy can be very thin in places.
      • I just found it really odd that in-game, no one points this out. They admit it's wrong stealing and hiding evidence, but they don't mention the negative effects of revealing such secrets to the media, instead focusing on how they're "stealing the truth" and how they're "modern-day Robin Hoods". Yet when Redd White does it, because he's a bad guy, they're all quick to point out how he's destroyed lives just by knowing the information and the fact that he could reveal it to the public.
    • The only things that are specifically mentioned as being exposed by the Yatagarasu are cases of "corruption," specifically ties to the smuggling ring. If anyone committed suicide because of the Yatagarasu, it's never mentioned.
  • When Kay tells Edgeworth that she's the Yatagarasu, he's incredibly skeptical at first. This might be because he was under the impression that Calisto Yew was the Yatagarasu because of what happened seven years before. He also hadn't twigged that the Yatagarasu was more than one person, so, since Kay clearly isn't Calisto Yew then he has no real reason to believe her until she whips out Little Thief.
  • In Turnabout Airlines, there is a point where Franziska von Karma accuses Edgeworth of murder, which, given their sibling-like relationship, appears to be overly harsh and cold, even for her standards. It only makes sense once you remember what exactly her oh-so-perfect-and-honorable father turned out to be like. Franziska isn't ignoring the fact that Edgeworth's her adoptive brother and friend. She thinks that he might have ended up walking down the same horrible road as her father after all.
    Franziska: "Even if we were related by blood, that's no guarantee that he's not a criminal!"
    Edgeworth: "...Franziska..."
    • Related to that scene, Franziska accuses him of tainting the von Karma name by committing murder. But von Karma did the same thing years ago. Is she actively repressing or does she believe that her own father is no longer a proper von Karma?
    • This troper thinks that Fransizka consider's the von Karma name to be above her father's ways. While she isen't the BEST person in the world (she's upset at losing, she conceals testimonies ect) she probably had no idea beforehand that her father forged evidence and made illegal deals to win cases. I believe that going this far to win was above even Fransizka, as evidence when she says that a von Karma should never break the law. Also, she acually at one point states her disgust at how "attornies defend criminals". To this troper at least, this represents how Franziska ACTUALLY DOES what the truth to be found but she is in denial. When it turns out her version of events are wrong, she still wants to think that the true killer is the defendant even with evidence pilled agaisnt that fact. Not because she wants a guilty verdict (although it's stated serveal times she does her job to solely get guilty verdicts, this is probably her niaveness talking and she thinks that all those who are arrested are arrested because they are guilty) but because she dosen't want to think that she's made a mistake in her accusations.
    • Investigations 2 shows that Franziska had no idea her father was willing to forge evidence to win cases. It's entirely possible that, until the point her father's truth is revealed to her, she believed he was just an extremely intimidating prosecutor that otherwise did no wrong... and why not thinking he was unfairly convicted? After all, "defense attorneys would do anything to make the guilty party look innocent".
  • Fridge Badassery: It would be badass for anyone to respond to a gun at their back with defiance rather than obvious fear. However, Edgeworth's father was killed by a gunshot wound while Edgeworth (a mere ten years old) was unconscious next to him. Edgeworth spent the next fifteen years hearing the sound of a gunshot in his nightmares, because he believed that he'd accidentally murdered his own father. He's terrified of both earthquakes and elevators due to their mere association with the event. So when Edgeworth shrugs off a warning shot with "No one commits murder in my office", you know he's got ice-water in his veins.
    • He was also threatened with a gun by Calisto Yew seven years prior, and there he was so terrified that he completely froze up and had to be pushed out of the way by someone else, making his calm handling of the situation with Detective Badd a rather strange example of character development.
  • Just a minor one, but still quite interesting. In your second case you get Cammy Meele as your partner. At my first playthrough I wondered, why she didn't follow you around like the other partners. Obviously she is the killer. At the end it suddenly struck me: She wasn't trying to help you finding the truth, she was purposely misLEADING the main character's investigation for her own ends, instead of following him
    • Also, she may seem stupid for wanting to do cleaning on the gift shop, but this is Obfuscating Stupidity, and she presumably wanted to remove the last traces that might incriminate her for killing Akbey Hicks.
    • In the gift shop, Cammy recommends that Edgeworth use a stuffed animal for stress relief. Remember how, upon being found out as the murderer, she talks about how scared she was of being caught in the smuggling ring, and suddenly the fact that she carries her own stuffed animal around for the entire case makes sense.
  • In the fourth case, Calisto's stress animation is her calmly putting on her makeup. Why? Because she's starting to sweat — which ruins her makeup, leading to her putting it back on!
    • She's also visibly twitchy when doing so, also retouching her eyeliner and her lipstick nervously.
  • In the first Ace Attorney game, von Karma was defeated because of a wound to his shoulder, which linked him to the crime. Fair enough. But what is it that helps you defeat the Big Bad of Investigations, Quercus Alba? A wound to the shoulder.
    • Notably, von Karma's wound was in his right shoulder, whereas Alba's was in the left shoulder.
  • It can be difficult to figure this out the first time you play I-4, but the reason that Rell accused prosecutor Faraday of being Yatagarasu and of instructing him to kill Mann might be that Calisto told him to.
    • It's also an interesting twist on the series's tendency to accuse the prosecutor. This time, the guilty party is doing it to an innocent, as opposed to the protagonist doing it to the actual guilty party.
      • It's actually a Double Subversion when it becomes apparent that Faraday actually was the Yatagarasu, which means the accusation of him being the Yatagarasu is completely genuine. Furthermore, Rell's claim that the Yatagarasu told him to kill Mann is also true, because Calisto is also the Yatagarasu and she did tell him to do it.
  • Fridge Horror comes up in the second case of Investigations 2, which takes place in a prison and in it, convicts make death threats against Edgeworth (and he personally convicted some of them). This makes you wonder how prosecutors would fare in the prison population, especially considering that Edgeworth nearly got convicted of murder in the first game, and quite a few prosecutors are also serving time at this point in the game's timeline, and whether there is more to Lana Skye not making any more appearances since the first game and Ema's change in personality than we thought.
    • Presumably prosecutors and cops convicted of serious crimes are kept in different prisons or otherwise away from the majority of the prison population. Lana only committed crimes under coercion, so she would probably be sent to a minimum security prison. As later shown in Dual Destinies, at least one prosecutor (Simon Blackquill) has been in jail for years and seems relatively intact. (Although, comparing his younger self to his older self, it's clear he's seen some hard times.)
  • In Turnabout Ablaze when talking to Ambassador Palaeno about the victim Manny Coachen, he said of how he was a very competent assistant, which in retrospect, allows him to work behind his back. This becomes a bit of a Foreshadowing in revealing Shih-na as The Mole.
  • In the Phoenix Wright games, there are guards in the defendant lobbies. In AAI case 4, which is chronologically the earliest playable case in the series (outside Japan), there are no guards in the lobbies. I wonder what could have happened that lead them to add guards there?
    • Most likely, the murders of Byrne Faraday and Mack Rell.
  • In AAI 2, Fridge Brilliance occurs in the final case: The final and decisive evidence against the Big Bad is the pollen of the lilies that the fake president of Zheng Fa was carrying and also found on his body, and indeed traces of the same pollen was found in the murder weapon (the lion hot air balloon). It is repeatedly mentioned in the case by both Courtney and Franziska that the Japanese flower language for shishiyuri is "the bond between parent and child". In other words, the final nail in Simon's coffin is the bond between parent and child: Gregory and Miles Edgeworth, Di-Jun Huang, Justine Courtney and John Marsh, and Dane Gustavia and Simon Keyes himself. The entire game revolves around this theme, in fact.
    • The relationship between a parent and child (natural or adopted) is a very large theme of AAI 2, to the point that it's an oddity when a major character has no direct ties along those lines. So when Tyrell Badd serves as the detective in the third case's flashbacks, despite the case having almost no relevance to the events of the first Investigations or anyone we met in that game, the best conclusion is simultaneously more indirect and heartwarming. In short, he's the closest thing the series has to a father figure for Dick Gumshoe.
  • The Japanese title for Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth is Turnabout Prosecutor. In AAI 2, A conflict in the game is having Edgeworth choose between being a prosecutor or working as a lawyer like his dad. In the first case you play as Edgeworth the prosecutor. The second, you play as an assistant for your dad's law office's attorney Shield (because Courtney revoked your right to investigate as the prosecutor for Knightley's crime is changed into Sebastian instead). The third has you switching between Miles and Gregory (the lawyer). The fourth case has Edgeworth abandoning his prosecutor badge and (again) working under Shield. In the end of the fifth case, Courtney returns the badge and Edgeworth vows to continue to devote himself as a prosecutor and reform the law. Turnabout Prosecutor indeed!
  • Playing the second case of AAI 2 is pure Fridge Horror, especially since you're acting as an assistant defense attorney DEFENDING THE BIG BAD.
    • Worse when you realize the implications had you and Shields not been around for the case. Shields only happened to be there due to his daily visit with Master. Had he not been around, who would've taken his defense? Pretty likely that Phoenix Wright himself would've likely taken such a case, especially if Edgeworth prodded him to do so. So unless he learned his lesson from Justice for All and asked some VERY specific questions to implicate Simon's indirect involvement in Knightley's murder...Nick would've been defending the Big Bad of the game...AGAIN!
    • A similar situation occurs when replaying AAI 2-1 after beating AAI 2-5. Turns out "President" Di-Jun Huang was a LOT worse than everyone realized... that, and the fact that Horace Knightley, as much as a despicable Jerkass he was, was just an Unwitting Pawn for the Big Bad's plan, the plan of someone he thought was his friend...
  • Colias Palaeno referring to Manny Coachen as the 'secretariat' is weird since it's usually used for an entire office rather than an individual secretary...until you realize that Manny's Hypercompetent Sidekick status for Palaeno meant he very well could have been the 'entire office himself'. Not to mention that low budget...
  • Palaeno becoming the Ambassador of the reunited Cohdopia makes sense if you think about it. While it's true that Ambassador Alba was fired and arrested, Allebhast could still appoint a new ambassador to the position. After all, so much fuss was made over the statues and the right to rule that is offered by them, and Palaeno openly admitted to Edgeworth that their statue is fake. The two statues were to be examined that day to determine which was genuine, and whichever nation had the genuine statue would have the right to rule a reformed Cohdopia. But that's just it: Babahl didn't have the fake statue anymore. Alba's manipulations left the true statue on Babahl's side, so when the two statues were examined, Babahl would be the one granted rulership rights. Ironically enough, Alba's murder of Manny Coachen and desperate bid to conceal evidence of his smuggling ultimately wound up accomplishing what Coachen was trying to do in the first place: steal Allebhast's statue for Babahl.
  • Fridge Horror: When Sebastian finally confronts his father in court during the final case, Blaise actually leaves the witness stand to approach him, suggesting Yumihiko wants to "play" and that the two of them should go home. He's trembling and is TERRIFIED when his father says this with Yumihiko's actual moving sprite going backwards. Blaise's sprite even approaches him when Yumihiko tries to weakly fight back. If it weren't for Edgeworth demanding that he get back on the witness stand so the trial could continue, Sebastian might have broken down again, but the implication is very obvious.
  • Why does Sebastian act like the conductor of an orchestra when presenting evidence, even bringing out a baton? Well, he takes after his father, and Blaise is known as the black marketeer who calls himself the Conductor...
  • In Case 4 of the sequel, it's a plot point that the victim, Jill Crane, always wore gloves to hide a nasty burn scar on her hand. After learning about his murderous, abusive, and pyromaniacal father, one can then make some pretty dark inferences as to why Sebastian also consistently wears gloves.
  • Huang's body double covered up the fake assassination plot by pinning Knightley as a plain attempted assassin. That's all well and good. But consider this: Edgeworth was scheduled to prosecute Knightley. Knowing Edgeworth, he'd probably expose the fake assassination. Now, recall that Huang's body double works with Blaise Debeste, whose preferred method for dealing with people who get in the way is to make them "disappear". Given all's not exactly hard to imagine an unpleasant fate for Edgeworth, Kay, Gumshoe and co. if Knightley makes it to trial.
  • Anyone who's played the last case of Justice For All will likely recognize the ice cream salesman in case 1 of AAI 2 as the assassin Shelly de Killer long before anyone in-game does. Though to be fair, it's the first time the other characters have ever seen him in person.
  • During the final interrogation of Investigations 2, Regina Berry, usually a Friend to All Living Things, makes no attempt whatsoever to defend Simon; in fact, she immediately provides several pieces of evidence crucial to convicting him. While his attitude certainly doesn't help, this stands in stark contrast to the way people usually react in the series when a friend falls under suspicion; usually you have to wring that sort of evidence out of them. Either she already suspected something was up, or she wasn't really that friendly with Simon in the first place, confirming his view that he had no real friends.
    • Could be Moe's work. He did, after all, bring Regina to court in 2-3 to realize what she caused through her immense naiveté. She may have become significantly more mature and realized something was off with Simon...