Both Sides Have A Point / Western Animation

Times where it's noted that Both Sides Have a Point in Western Animation.

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• Arcane: All the time. If main characters are having a disagreement, they'll have good reasons to back it up.
  • Mylo firmly believes that Powder should not be accompanying the group on their excursions, being too young, clumsy, and prone to accidents—a belief not at all helped when Powder loses the group's greatest haul yet when fleeing a thug. Vi agrees that Powder causes them problems, but also fires back that Mylo does too, from picking fights to complaining about everything. She also points out that the encounter with the thugs only happened because Mylo loudly announced that the group was carrying valuables.
  • Jayce's storyline in act 2 is dominated by his conflict with Heimerdinger over when For Science! has gone too far. On Heimerdinger's side, he's right that Jayce and Viktor are toying with forces beyond their comprehension (Viktor openly admits that their research into runes is mostly random experimentation), and there are still plenty of quirks that they have to iron out, especially for potential applications as weapons. On Jayce and Viktor's side, the faster they can develop the tech the faster it can be used to save people's lives, and with Viktor's condition getting worse and tensions between Zaun and Piltover escalating, there's really no time for decades of testing.
  • Silco and Vander fell out over Vander choosing peace over revolution. Silco's not wrong that Vander has accepted the deeply unequal status quo in the name of peace. Vander is correct that the price of violent resistance would be very high in human cost for an uncertain success. Silco is proven correct that Shimmer is able to intimidate Piltover's council into granting freedom. But Vander's prophecy that he'd sacrifice Zaun's soul doing so comes true, with the flooding of the streets of Zaun with Shimmer and the rise of wealthy Chembarons critically undermining the sense of solidarity the impoverished undercity once had.
  • Mel and her mother Ambessa support weaponizing Hextech while Viktor strongly opposes it. Viktor insists their Hextech dream was for peace and helping people, not making weapons which will permanently change the nature of their discovery. But Shimmer is such a powerful weapon that without Hextech weapons, Piltover really doesn't stand a chance in a fight.
  • Jayce and Vi want direct action against Silco while the council wants to negotiate first. Vi is astonished they'd try diplomacy with a man who so deeply despises them. Allowing him to continue to pump the streets of both Piltover and Zaun with Shimmer is obviously a bad idea. And it's deeply unjust to allow his evil acts go unpunished. But as Jayce finds out painfully in person, going after Silco would mean war with Zaun. Innocent people, including children will die if they want to root him out. Jayce ultimately flips on the issue, deciding that the price in bodies is just too high. And ironically it turns out that Vi was technically wrong as, despite his hatred for Piltover, Silco was willing to negotiate a peace with Jayce — if only Jayce hadn't demanded he turn over Jinx...
• In Beast Wars, a lot of arguments arise between Dinobot and the rest of the Maximals over how to accomplish missions or deal with threats, and generally how to do things. Dinobot, being a Predacon soldier, always favors brutal, swift aggression, lethal force, and focusing entirely on the war, while the rest being Maximal explorers tend to favor brains over brawn, non-lethal force, and making time for actual exploration and even having fun. Rather than taking a "right or wrong" approach it usually boils down to them showing Dinobot that the Maximal's ways are effective rather than superior, and even then the Maximals often acknowledge that Dinobot's plans would have worked better in the end. Though there are times Dinobot is shown as being explicitly wrong, other times arise where the Maximals' plan fails miserably and they begrudgingly fall back onto Dinobot's plan instead.
• Bob's Burgers: In "Are You There, Bob? Its Me Birthday", the conflict arises when Linda forgets to celebrate Bob's birthday, and in a bid to redeem herself, she sends Bob away with Hugo so she can set up a huge impromptu party inviting everyone Bob knows; despite Bob not minding it because he hates parties anyways and doesn't particularly cares about his birthday. In Bob's side of the story, Hugo warns him that he should be grateful for Linda going through the trouble of setting up an event for him, because his birthday is also an occasion where his loved ones get to celebrate him; meanwhile, on Linda's side of the story, Jimmy Pesto correctly points out that setting up a party that Bob would obviously dislike and be uncomfortable in is not the way that she should go about celebrating him. The episode ends on a middle ground where Linda does set up something, but it is a lowkey gift where she has made a steak dinner for him, set up his favorite Western movies so he can watch them in peace, and gotten him a bacon press he wanted, being able to celebrate him without making him uncomfortable.
• Castlevania (2017): Alucard argues with his father Dracula over his plan to Kill All Humans because the Bishop burned his wife at the stake, pointing out he can't wipe out all of humanity based on the actions of one person. While Alucard is certainly right, Dracula makes a damn good point when he tells Alucard that anyone in Wallachia could have stood up for Lisa, but no one did.
• Codename: Kids Next Door: This occurs in the ending of Operation: Z.E.R.O.. While Numbah 362 admits that Numbah 1 was right to prioritize the Museum before their Moonbase and for believing in Numbah 0, Numbah 1 admits that she was right too-namely that he was putting himself before his team without whom he couldn't have even pulled The Plan off.
• Doug: After completing his last Quailman comic, Doug is caught doodling and making fun of Lamar Bone, who really had it coming. Doug knows Bone didn't get his word on his work, and he simply traps Bone by asking if he was immune to the rules he enforces. Bone explains that he wasn't, cue this trope and the deal Bone makes with the students adding a rule that bans Saturday detentions. Bone doesn't like to be made fun of, but his actions can also get him in trouble.
• Family Guy: In "The D in Apartment 23", the conflict Brian and, well, everyone in Quahog falls under this. On one hand, Brian is correct that he's not actually a racist, since there's a big difference between telling a racist joke and actually being racist. On the other, it's hard not to see why the residents of Quahog aren't willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, since every time he tries to explain himself, he just digs himself deeper by saying stuff like "black porn". Lois even notes that while she and the other Griffins knows Brian isn't the monster they say he is, he hasn't done anything to prove he isn't either.
• Gargoyles: This trope is evident in Goliath and Demona's respective views about human beings:
  • At the start of the series, Demona points out that the inhabitants of Castle Wyvern are a bunch of Ungrateful Bastards who treat gargoyles like dirt despite the fact that the clan is responsible for their safety ("We saved their lives, and they repay us with contempt!"). And, as the series progresses, and more of her backstory is revealed, it becomes increasingly clear that, as far as she's concerned, Humans Are the Real Monsters, considering how little regard they seem to have for their own species, let alone others; as such, one can't really blame her for wanting to exact revenge on humanity, though choosing to commit a planet-wide genocide is the wrong way to go about it. That said, however, when Brooklyn points out that Elisa Maza has befriended the clan, Demona concedes that she might be trustworthy (though that doesn't stop her from trying to kill the detective whenever they cross paths).
  • On the other end, Goliath acknowledges that humans are capable of unspeakably horrendous acts, but is well aware that there are at least some whom gargoyles can trust with their lives; it just takes time and understanding to realize that. Naturally, he never gives up hope that the two races will someday make lasting peace. In fact, Goliath actually invokes this trope somewhat in the episode "Temptation," after Demona manipulates Brooklyn into helping her try to harm him:
  Brooklyn: What Demona said sounded true at the time...
  Goliath: Of course it did. It's a half truth that she has thoroughly embraced, but it's not the whole truth.
• Gravity Falls:
  • In "Boss Mabel", Stan and Mabel get into an argument on how to run the Mystery Shack. Mabel takes umbrage to Stan's miserly and obnoxious attitude, but Stan believes if you're too nice, people will walk over you. At the end, both are proven correct. Mabel needs to get tough to get any work out of Soos and Wendy, and her liberal refunds policy eats at the Shack's profits. Stan, meanwhile, goes onto a gameshow and loses an easy fortune because he can't be bothered to learn basic manners.
  • In "A Tale of Two Stans", the ongoing feud between Stan and Ford stems from the last major argument they had thirty years ago: Ford had discovered that his scientific research had given Bill Cipher a means of conquering our reality, and wanted Stan's help in hiding his journals. Stan had spent the last few years estranged from the family, either imprisoned or homeless, and was upset to discover that Ford only wanted him back in his life to help him hide the journals^note Which would also have necessitated never seeing each other again, which hurt Stan even more. As necessary as hiding the research was, Ford's ego and obsessive focus on the big picture really blew up in his face. The disagreement ultimately led to him getting shoved into the very dimensional portal he was trying to shut down, and in a desperate attempt to save him, Stan spent the next three decades trying to restart the portal. In the present, Ford wants to keep the world safe and believes that Stan shouldn't have risked using the portal just to save him. Stan believes that saving his family was worth anything. Both have a point, and both of them refuse to budge.
• Justice League:
  • Batman and Superman's argument in Twilight. Batman is correct that they can't afford to not intervene in Brainiac's attack on Apokolips because Brainiac with Apokoliptian technology is a Very Bad Thing and that Superman is letting his personal grudge against Darkseid sway him. On the other side, Superman is absolutely correct that Darkseid cannot be trusted and is probably going to backstab them. In the end, Batman is right in presuming that Darkseid is dead, and Superman is right in presuming that Darkseid's threat isn't over.
  • Although the Project Cadmus arc does arguably swing a little more towards Villain Has a Point, due to the fact Cadmus undertakes much dodgier things than the Justice League, the show's creators and the majority of viewers agree that this trope applies. Even the Justice League admits that Cadmus does have a point that the League could potentially be hugely dangerous to the people of Earth. On the other hand, the Justice League is also right that Cadmus itself is equally dangerous in potential, what with the black operations to steal from the Watchtower, the creation of Super Soldiers, et cetera.
• King of the Hill: In "Husky Bobby", while Hank doesn't want Bobby entering the fashion show to end up being a target for bullying, Bobby counters his argument by saying he should stop trying to turn him into a smaller version of himself and let him do what he truly loves.
• In The Legend of Korra, Book 4 villainess Kuvira refuses to give control of the Earth Kingdom (Renamed as the Earth Empire) to Royal Brat Prince Wu because he'd end up a Puppet King beholden to foreign powers. While her detractors see her logic, they're not going to forget that Kuvira 'reunited' the Earth Kingdom through oppression and force any time soon.
  • Prince Wu proceeds to prove both sides wrong by immediately abdicating and splitting the Earth Kingdom into multiple democratic states.
• In the Lloyd in Space episode "Double Date", Lloyd asks a girl named Cindy out to the dance, only to find out that she has a second head that is rude and crude. At the dance, Lloyd tries to please both the nice Cindy and the mean Cindy, but he snaps at both of them for the latter’s rudeness. Lloyd then overhears a conversation that refers to him as a two-faced jerk and apologizes to Cindy for how he treated her.
• The animated TV adaptation of The Lorax does acknowledge not just the Lorax's environmental concerns with the devastation of the forest caused by the Once-ler, but also that a lot of people would lose their jobs if the Thneed factory shut down, showing at least one necessary point to the Once-ler's plans.
• My Adventures with Superman: Clark and Lois's falling out at the end of episode "You Will Believe a Man Can Lie". On the one hand, Clark has every right to conceal his secret identity from Lois, given they've only known each other for a short time and Lois explicitly declared her goal to publish all of Superman's secrets (while Lois claims post-reveal she wouldn't have said that if she suspected Clark was Superman at the time, Clark had no way of knowing that since she only found out recently). On the other hand, it's also understandable why Lois reacted the way she did, given it's been made clear in both this episode and the previous one that lying is Lois's Berserk Button thanks to her father hiding the truth from her about her terminally-ill mother, not to mention Clark read her the riot act for lying in Episode 1 and promised never to keep secrets from her while simultaneously lying and keeping secrets from her, resulting in a case of tunnel vision that leads her to only look at Clark's actions and not his motives. Clark had very understandable reasons for lying, but it's hard to fault Lois for feeling upset given her past trauma.
• My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic does like to provide this a fair amount of times, arguably preferring to teach kids friendship is about compromise and respect on both ends to avoid previous unfriendly aesops. "Lesson Zero", "Over a Barrel" and "Sisterhooves Social" are prime cases both sides admit the other has valid arguments and end up taking a middle road.
• The Loud House: This is the main problem of "Fed Up." The family has the same dinner for every day of the week. The parents justify it since they have to feed a large family on a budget, but the kids hate the system because they're tired of having the same thing all the time. At the end, Dad sees the kids' point and promises to mix it up once in a while.
• The Simpsons:
  • "Itchy and Scratchy and Marge" very notably doesn't take a side on the issue of whether censorship is good or bad (but it does have the moral of "Be prepared for consequences, hypocrisy, and opposing viewpoints if you choose to stand up for a cause."). Sure, Roger Meyers is a scumbag who doesn't care if his shows influence kids to hurt themselves and others, but he's just a man trying to entertain others. Sure, SNUH is a bunch of Moral Guardians who want to censor even masterpieces for offending their conservative housewife sensibilities, but they're kind of right in that kids should be exposed to real art and not just pop culture trash. Sure, Marge is going overboard in trying to get Itchy and Scratchy redone to be more in line with what she wants, but she does have valid concerns over the fact that Maggie watched the show and smacked Homer on the head with a mallet.
  • "Bart's Inner Child" starts off with Homer acquiring a trampoline, despite Marge's fears that people will get hurt from using it. After Marge is proven right, Homer admits that getting the trampoline was a bad idea, but he also points out that he's at least willing to try new things while Marge just sits around and nags all the time. At the end of the episode, after an event in which everyone basically acts like Bart for a day backfires, the lesson that is learned is while everyone is free to do as they feel, there has to be a certain amount of control involved or else everything can turn chaotic in an instant.
  • In "The PTA Disbands" when Principal Skinner and Mrs. Krabappel are trying to convince the parents at a PTA meeting of their respective positions. Mrs. Krabappel argues that Skinner's budget cuts are harming the education the parents' children are receiving, and that they need the resources to do their job. The parents are inclined to agree with her until Skinner points out that the school is on a very tight budget as it is, and for the school administration to get what the teachers are asking for, they'd have to raise the parents' taxes. That gets the parents complaining about taxes being high enough as it is, and the debate between Skinner's and Krabappel's positions ends up going back and forth. The episode ends by Skinner and Krabappel deciding to Take a Third Option and rent out the school's cloakrooms to the prison system to raise extra money, although the writers don't provide an answer to the taxes vs. education quality debate.
  • "The Cartridge Family" does this with the gun ownership debate. On the one side we have Marge, who doesn't want the Simpsons to own a gun because of how dangerous they can be. On the other we have the NRA, who argue that there are valid reasons to own one, like hunting and protecting one's family. However, the point they both agree upon is that guns are deadly weapons that should only be handled by responsible owners. Homer demonstrates an insanely flagrant disregard for even the most basic forms of gun safety, which drives Marge away and gets him kicked out of the NRA. Word of God is that the writers themselves were very divided on the issue of guns and couldn't decide on one aesop to teach, so they just showed both sides of the argument and basically ended on "people like Homer shouldn't have guns".
  • In "Tennis the Menace," Homer and Marge have a tennis court built in their backyard. They later play matches against their friends, but Homer's constant screwups cause him and Marge to lose every time. The taunting from everyone else drives Marge to the point where she later chooses Bart (who's more skilled) to be her partner. This upsets Homer, who points out that he only played tennis for fun, while Marge points out to Homer that it would've been nice for them to win a match for once and not be made fun of.
  • In "Mobile Homer", Marge begins obsessively Cutting Corners to save money after Homer is denied life insurance to the point of of making her family live in poverty. Homer confronts her for not being adventurous and controlling the money he worked to earn, but Marge retorts that Homer barely does his job and spends more money than he makes, while she is the one who pays the bills and balances the books. Homer eventually spends all of Marge's nest egg on an RV out of pure spite, resulting in a bitter feud that nearly destroys their marriage.
• South Park uses the Golden Mean Fallacy a lot to find a middle ground between two opposing sides, ultimately arguing that each side is partially correct, making it all the funnier when this attitude is subverted, such as the NAMBLA episode which has the leader of NAMBLA making a long-winded speech about what is wrong and right followed by a short retort from Kyle and Stan which undoes the speech entirely.
• Star Wars:
  • Star Wars: The Clone Wars:
    • The series doesn't go into too much depth on the politics of the Clone Wars, but they do go into more than the films did. The Republic has a point in that the Separatists act like violent thugs most of the time, and announced their defection by trying to conquer the Republic, not to mention being led by an actual Sith Lord. The Separatists, on the other hand, are right in that the Republic really is horrifically corrupt and in the thrall of the galactic corporations, and provide little aid to member planets. This, of course, serves Palpatine's purposes perfectly: no matter which side wins, he can paint them as the heroes and reformat them into the Empire with himself at the head. This is explicitly hammered home in the episode "Heroes on Both Sides", where Ahsoka is brought along with Padme to visit the Separatist planet of Raxus, where Senator Mina Bonteri demonstrates a willingness to negotiate peace with the Republic, only for General Grievous to deliberately thwart it, and peace talks to be called off when Dooku has Bonteri assassinated, and claims the Republic did it. In this episode, it proves the Republic has become as decadent and corrupt as the Separatists claim it to be, seeing as they oppose all and any peace talks the moment the attack occurs, and (through legal wording) has loyal Separatists serving in the Senate while they profit off the backs of the many lives lost in the Clone Wars. Yet Dooku's very actions prove that the Separatists are the violent thugs that Anakin claims them to be, and their actions in the rest of the series don't help their case, which makes the Republic winning the war all the more satisfying.
    • The Mandalore arc delves especially hard into this. While Satine is a good person who wants to build a society dedicated to pacifism and peace, and Death Watch are a terrorist group willing to resort to terrible means to get their point across, Mandalore still has a rich history of warrior culture. Satine may have the best of intentions, but the way she goes about it amounts to erasure of her people's culture in favor of ideas she learned from other worlds. Then again, Death Watch are definitely extremists and even fall under the sway of Maul. After Satine's death, Ahsoka hands rule over to her sister, Bo-Katan. Bo-Katan is a flawed person, but she strikes a sort of middle ground by respecting Mandalorian history and culture while also not going to needless war 24/7. Then the Empire happens, rendering the whole thing moot. And then, by the time of The Mandalorian, they purge the planet.
    • In the unfinished "Crystal Crisis on Utapau" arc, Anakin and Obi-Wan get into a debate regarding Ahsoka leaving the Jedi Order. Anakin rightfully points out that the Order gave her no choice; they threw her to the wolves on flimsy evidence to save face, and nobody believed she was innocent. While Obi-Wan concedes that the Council made mistakes, he correctly points out that Ahsoka still chose to walk away, and that choice was her own. Anakin further argues that they failed her—that he failed her—and questions if Obi-Wan could live with himself if Anakin turned out the same way. Obi-Wan admits he wouldn't sleep well at night, but he knows that will never happen. Unfortunately, the Imperial March plays to remind the audiences that will ''indeed'' happen.
  • Star Wars: The Bad Batch: Throughout the sequel series to The Clone Wars, there are various debates in the early Imperial era, pertaining to Clones and their Stormtrooper replacements, Omega, and how to fight the Empire.
    • A recurring subplot is that Hunter wants to raise Omega in a safe place far from the evils of the Empire without her having to fight to live another day, or even give her away to a family so she can have a normal life. However, other characters, such as Echo and Phee, the former pointing out she needs to learn how to defend herself, while the latter says she needs to have stability in her life and friends that don't share her genetic age.
    • During the Imperial Senate debate in "The Clone Conspiracy", the supporters of Admiral Edmon Rampart's Imperial Defense Recruitment Bill, a representative of the Commerce Guild and Senator Gani Ridulli of the InterGalatic Banking Clan, state that the Clones will eventually be too old to fight the rising number of insurgents who are threatening the peace Palpatine brought to the Galaxy at the end of the war and need to be decommissioned, while allowing the people to enlist as Stormtroopers to keep the peace. The opposition, consisting of Senators Bail Organa, Riyo Chuchi, and Tynnra Pamlo, state that with the Clone Wars already over, they should focus on more important things such as a retirement plan for the Clones, rather than make a new military. Ultimately as the next episode shows, the former side wins due to Palpatine throwing Rampart under the bus for destroying Kamino and has the Imperial Defense Recruitment Bill passed for the sake of getting the Stormtrooper project done and over with.
    • In "The Summit", Tarkin and Barton Coburn argue about the fate of the Clones, having both served with them. Barton brings up that the Clones were loyal warriors and cunning to the very end of the war, also bringing up his unease about them being experimented on by Doctor Royce Hemlock and the Empire's willingness to dismiss them. Tarkin argues that the Clones were unpredictable in terms of following orders or even disobeying them, and he didn't like the Jedi encouraging their individuality, since they were meant to kill them once Dooku and Grievous were defeated.
  • Star Wars Rebels: It's shown that, amongst the Rebellion, there exists a fundamental divide between the current Rebel leadership under Mon Mothma and Bail Organa, and those led by the extremist Saw Gerrera. The former wish to fight the Empire while not sinking to their level, while Saw and his partisans have no intention of playing fair; the Empire will fall no matter what it takes or how it gets accomplished. Here, Mothma and Organa's principles hold true in that stooping to casual disregard for civilians or causing a huge amount of collateral damage will make the Rebels no better than the Empire they're trying to overthrow, and the aftermath of the Galactic Civil War shows the New Republic did a pretty good job at maintaining peace right up until the First Order rose. However, Saw is also right in that the Empire will not play fair in their war, and fighting on their level is the only way to ensure survival. Lest we forget, the Empire has squads of Death Troopers, entire armies and navies of deadly vessels and troops, and a planet-killing Death Star they intend to use to wipe out any resistance, so Saw has a point there, even if everyone outside of his partisans have no intent of working with him. Even Leia, some time later, agrees that Saw did what needed to be done, but the irony is that the Rebels were able to win just fine without him, while Saw became the Death Star's first victim.
• Steven Universe:
  • In "Back to the Barn", Peridot and Pearl get in an argument over who's the better engineer while trying to design a drill. Peridot brings up the fact that Gems live in a Fantastic Caste System and that she was made to be a builder while Pearl is a servant. Pearl insists that her origins make her no less skilled, and that her knowledge of Earth actually gives her seniority. By the end of their competition it's made clear that the two are equally skilled.
  • In "Barn Mates", Lapis has a point in that Steven and Peridot can't expect her to so quickly forgive a post-Heel–Face Turn Peridot for all the nasty things she did, and that Peridot's clumsy, ill-conceived attempts to apologize aren't helping her case. Peridot and Steven are also right in that Lapis is being too hard and unforgiving on Peridot, especially when she crushes Peridot's most prized possession, a tape recorder, out of spite when Peridot gives it to Lapis as a peace offering.
  • Later on in "Dewey Wins", Connie gets angry with Steven for giving himself up to Homeworld to save her and some other humans from being taken to a People Zoo. She's mainly angry because he left her alone to deal with it himself, thinking that he didn't believe in all their training for situations like this, and then returned and acted like it was nothing and that she should be glad he was back. However, while she has a right to be angry, Steven's actions were justified because one of the Gems who came to take them away used technology powerful enough to stop Alexandrite, and Steven felt that they were outmatched and that the only way to save everyone was to give himself up in exchange for their freedom. He also felt like he should take all the blame because he was partly responsible for their arrival in the first place. Eventually he realizes he was acting like a jerk to Connie the day after he came back, but it takes her a while to forgive him.
  • The main conflict of the entire series can also be seen as this. From the Crystal Gems perspective, The Diamonds are the Evil Iron-fisted rulers of Gemkind who enforce a harsh caste system on their people and destroy planets to expand their empire. While from the Diamonds perspective they are simply following the purpose they believe were bestowed upon them and view the Crystal Gems as a band of traitorous rebels who shattered their youngest sibling, Pink Diamond, over a seemingly innocous planet. It's only when both sides finally come to understand the other and change accordingly that the conflict is finally resolved.
• TaleSpin often plays around with this trope, Depending on the Writer, between Baloo and Rebecca. Both are a part of the "Higher for Hire" business, and it frequently struggles due to either his laziness or her zany schemes. It varies from episode to episode, but either his slacking and inability to pay the bills is treated as a hinderance to her desire to keep things afloat, or her wacky ideas make things more difficult for everyone, especially when Baloo tries to keep her grounded.
• In Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012), the Turtles get into an argument over how to deal with Leatherhead. Mikey thinks he deserves their sympathy, but the others don't want him in their lair as he's prone to violent rages. Splinter compromises. Leatherhead should be shown compassion, but he should also be kept chained up so his rages won't hurt anyone. "I'm compassionate, not insane."
• Subverted in Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy. With Cybertron devastated beyond repair and with horrific casualties on both sides, the Autobots initially think Optimus is just as responsible for the destruction as Megatron is, especially since he refuses to stop fighting his old friend. It's true that Optimus thinks he's responsible for the war (and spends the series enforcing this belief), but as the show progresses and Megatron becomes willing to use the AllSpark itself to forcibly reprogram the entire populous to his whim, it's shown that Megatron's point of view is very much one-sided.
• X-Men: The Animated Series: Gyrich and Trask would blame each other for their predicament as they are both forced into hiding. Gyrich blames Trask for Master Mold and the sentinels for turning against them, while Trask counters by pointing out that had Gyrich not decided to kidnap Senator Kelly, he wouldn't have reassigned them to the jungle in the first place.
• As much as it's very clear the titular Zee from The Zeta Project genuinely does have a heart from how he adamantly insists on helping anyone in trouble and never killing, The NSA's fear that he was simply reprogrammed to think he has a heart as part of a Manchurian Agent ploy by terrorists holds real value as well, considering he went rogue during a deep cover operation with the Brother's Day terrorist group. This is thoroughly explored in the two-part episode Wired where Zee and Bennett discuss the very nature of it, and even Zee is left frightened at the possibility that Bennett might actually be right when they find an unidentifiable device inside his head that isn't in his schematic. It's eventually revealed to be a literal conscience module installed by his eccentric creator.
  Bennett: It must be very confusing to you, Zeta. "Am I a weapon, am I not a weapon? Am I in control or am I controlling myself?"
  Zeta: I know what I am.
  Bennett: Do you?

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