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ArthurS Since: Nov, 2013
09/11/2018 19:33:40 •••

I Coveted The Wind...

The thing I hate about Post-Apocalyptic stories are that they are very arrogant. At least Western ones tend to be. They are basically enabling fantasies about how important contemporary society and the status-quo are, any other alternative is crazy to imagine. Apocalypse in the original Greek sense meant change, and you can't resist change no more than you can resist the wind.

The Wind Waker is thus a profoundly radical corrective and deconstruction of this concept. Put it simply, however great, magical and wonderful a civilization is or was, it can be buried, it can be drowned and new life can follow, new possibilities can arise. The Great Sea is a beautiful sea, the Art Style emphasizes this. The blues of the waters and the skies are magical to see. The characters are all bright and colourful and put it simply children are happy in this world, children live here, have fun and play, and what better expression of the future's indifference to the past than seeing a little girl on a perch staring at the sea with her telescope.

Zelda is the most mature franchise I know because, for all its fantasy, its human. It's about people, about community and life. The fact that we like Ganondorf at the end, that he becomes the tragic representative of Old Hyrule more than the King himself is a wonderful touch. Ganondorf's final dialogues in the last stage is one of the few times you have quality dialogue in games, dialogue without being spoken. There's great sadness in those words, "I coveted that wind, I suppose...".

MyFinalEdits (Ten years in the joint)
12/22/2013 00:00:00

I have to say, I got surprised to discover what had happened to Hyrule, but that actually made me enjoy the game more since it was a big potential to test new waters and expand the universe of Zelda through various new lands. Seeing as both TP and ST had Hyrule back, though, it sadly seems like Nintendo abandoned that idea.

I do enjoy all Zelda games, though. E Ven PH, with some major disappointments, was good for me. =)

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doctrainAUM Since: Aug, 2010
12/22/2013 00:00:00

Are you saying that it's arrogant to state that the total breakdown of society would be very bad? Because that position doesn't make much sense to me.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
ArthurS Since: Nov, 2013
12/28/2013 00:00:00

What I mean is that in Western Media, the destruction of Western World, the fall of the monuments and all that is taken as The End of the World as We Know It and that there's no future after that. I am not saying its not sad or tragic, I am just saying its arrogant to assume that humanity can't endure, survive and rebuild from that since in history, mankind has struggled through terrible catastrophes and endured and rebuilt. That's what The wind waker is about. Then again, it was made in Japan and they've survived earthquakes and atomic bombs and all kinds of national pain and struggle so maybe its a cultural thing.

doctrainAUM Since: Aug, 2010
12/28/2013 00:00:00

Saying that humanity can't endure after that sounds like the complete opposite of arrogant to me. I've also seen and read plenty of apocalyptic stories where humanity continues, but maybe we've been seeing different examples.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
ArthurS Since: Nov, 2013
12/28/2013 00:00:00

I was mostly reacting to the subtext of it, which you may or may not agree with. For me stories like The Road or The Day After Tomorrow, they are basically Western centered, in that its about America imagining its own end or a future where its not the centre of the universe anymore, and thats related to the colonialist idea of cyberpunk of Japan Takes Over the World. See I come from India and over here we have real problems and we have no choice but to imagine that the future will be better and for us to see movies of The End of the World as We Know It is basically people telling us that there's no future for us and that we should be stuck with what we have. The Wind Waker tells us that whatever happens the future can be rebuilt and remade, even if something valuable is lost in the process. It's not making a fuss or crying about it. The truth is that the world won't miss the loss of a single civilization, I mean the sky will be blue even After the End, scientists have pointed this out, it won't be gray as in those movies. It will be a beautiful day and I was defending the art style in that context, where these apocalyptic movies are so arrogant and think that the environment and atmosphere will reflect the decay of society.

ElectricNova Since: Jun, 2012
12/28/2013 00:00:00

This review never mentions the gameplay, but to be honest it touched my heart. Usually the reviews here don't analyse the themes of a work so well.

Just saying

IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
12/20/2014 00:00:00

The world will miss the loss of a single civilization. Not the planet itself but have we just forgotten the fall of the Aztek, Inca, The Cherokee, The Taino? They still exist as people but are you really saying the desecration of their societies wasn't lamentable?

Indians have real problems? So no one in "the West" does? It's a problem of perspective to try and lump "The West" together as a monolithic entity. Single out USA if you want but don't equate it to the whole of the West lest an Indian trend be applied to the entire "East".

In the Greek sense, apocalypse refers to revelation, discoveries. The end of the world focus came from semites writing veiled critiques about the Roman empire. I wish I hadn't clicked the comment button and revealed that following rant or I wouldn't have felt the need to leave one myself.

HammerOfJustice Since: Apr, 2013
09/11/2018 00:00:00

Apocalypse actually just means \"revelation\" or \"uncovering\".

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