Go-go-go-go my way!
- With Astral's Disney Deaths , Vector's reveal, and the events of the final arc, Yuma came so close into becoming this.
Really? I thought that Yuma was an Iron Woobie. I mean, it was shown that the Parental Neglect (or Parental Abandonment, point is that they aren't there) does affect him in the very first episode said parents are introduced and holds onto Kattobingu because of it. Eliminating Kattobingu shows how Yuma really is and this happens in the show.
Plus he has several genuine Break the Cutie moments, like losing to Kaito, losing to Mizael, losing Astral and the thing with Vector. Poor child is even crying when he finally meets with Astral again.
Losing to Mizael made Yuma VERY hesistant and unlike himself, to the point Shark had to snap him out of it.
Vector's reveal made Yuma question his naivety. The fact that he decided to hold onto really isn't that bad, in my opinion, since he does redeem several characters because of it. Even Vector! And really, was someone expecting a child to lose his innocence on this show?
He keeps going, which is what I like about Yuma. Though I might be alone on thinking that he does qualify for The Woobie or Iron Woobie. Or maybe I misinterpreted it, not my first time doing that.
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Yuma does keep going, but he falters badly several times and it's the actions of other characters that keep him going, though I'm not sure if that completely distances him from the trope or not to tell you the truth.
Hypocritical Fandom: Seriously, is this a valid example. Let's go over asspull examples.
Original series: The Heart of the Cards does not count. It's a belief, there's no evidence that they actually change the cards in their deck right there and then. A straight example are the drawing of the Legendary Dragons (which only happens once) and Atem changing fate to draw Big Shield Gardna against Yugi, which was underused and considered part of the challenge.
GX: Jaden does have insane luck, but that's hardly cheating, and he's been beaten before.
5D's: Yusei has no control over this. Two times out of four it's been flawed: against Ghost, Yusei is well aware that he was lucky that the Crimson Dragon decided to help him out (and Primo later devised a counterstrategy against it) and against Haldor, it didn't work.
ZEXAL: Yuma not only intentionally invokes this, but he creates a new card which he never uses again, and then does it to a card in his hand. The villains are a bad example themselves though, which lets it slide a little.
ARC-V: Yuya has no control over this, and not only that, he regularly uses the cards again. In addition, he's called out in-universe, while Shining Draw is praised in ZEXAL as "the mark of a great duelist."
Those are the facts, let me know if I missed anything.
Sanokal
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I disagree with my entry being a rant but whatever.
The point I was trying to make is, complaining about any specific main character ass-pulling when all the others have and will continue to do so is hypocritical.
I don't care about people hating Yuma, they are free to that. I'm also not here to argue against my entry removal, I just wanted to clear up why I made it at all.
Edited by VeryMelon
Yuya may have no control over it, but he also effectively Re-Contract Universed his entire Deck in episode 1. You cannot realistically say that's not at least as "bad" as Yuma's Re-Contract (though I'm of the opinion that it was fine).
I think the overarching part of the paragraph was that the END RESULT is the same. Removing intent, removing control, its the same result. I maintain that every character in every series Shining Draws EVERY TURN. ZEXAL was just more honest about it (which isn't to say Yuma used Shining Draw that much, the show went out of its way to restrict its use via dimensional specifics).
Honestly, MOST of the entries on this page are ranty, in one direction or another.
Edited by GavynSykes
Except Shining Draw literally creates new cards that weren't in the deck before.
As I mentioned previously, Yuya got called out for it both in-universe and by the fans at the time; the in-universe calling out calmed them down.
Sanokal
One form of asspulling being slightly worse doesn't mean the other protags don't asspull.
Yuyu using his version of asspull magic slightly more often isn't a real strong defense of the removal of my entry.
It's not that these aren't examples of Ass Pull.
It's that by and large, Yuma is considered a cheater for - and here is the key here - intentionally creating new cards in his Main Deck. The only other example has been Atem, which was an anime Ass Pull in itself and didn't really do that much.
Sanokal
Does Shining Draw count as a mechanic? In other words, should that paragraph (putting aside the other issues it has) really be under the Scrappy Mechanic trope?
Discussion over removing or keeping “What An Idiot” on the main page:
What you gave wasn’t proper evidence: that was what YOU believe to be true, when it really isn’t. There’s nothing out of character about Yuma and Astral not using the other Numbers often, especially when I already explained why with how most of them wouldn’t have good synergy with Yuma’s deck, how they would hinder his growth as a duelist, and how Utopia is a better option for Yuma’s play style. Also, your complaint about Yuma using Utopia is pretty much moot when A, every main character use their main monsters often, and B, Yuma has won a good number of duels without using Utopia. And while there is a genuine complaint about how Yuma rarely utilizes his other Numbers, that is addressed on the YMMV under the more appropriate “They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot” trope. I don’t know what your problem is or why you got so upset that you felt the need to respond the way you did, but going by how you’ve responded and you’re reasoning, it seems more like you just used this trope to vent about the show without thinking about whenever your example fits the criteria or not. Unless your willing to be civil and discuss this, then I will have no choice but to get a mod involved.
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