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powerofone65 Since: Jun, 2015
Feb 21st 2024 at 9:54:51 AM •••

Are we sure we want to use the trope Vanilla Protagonist for Charlie? I just remain slightly unconvinced it's the best fit for her.

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Twiddler MOD (On A Trope Odyssey)
Feb 21st 2024 at 6:29:57 PM •••

The example in question, from YMMV.Hazbin Hotel:

  • Vanilla Protagonist: Charlie is sweet and good natured but can come across as dull and one-note compared to the other characters, particularly compared to Angel Dust’s self-destructive spiraling or Alastor’s status as a Hidden Agenda Villain.

I don't see it either. She's silly and cartoonishly expressive and energetic, not exactly "plain" or "mild", which is what Vanilla Protagonist is supposed to be. This comes across more as expressing a preference for darker/angstier characters. It was also written just after the first four episodes dropped, so couldn't have taken into account any of her later development.

Gonna remove it, citing this thread. ETA: done.

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AudioSpeaks2 (Greenhorn)
Feb 21st 2024 at 6:34:16 PM •••

Yeah, Charlie doesn't count. The fandom loves her and finds her adorkable and endearing, not boring.

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powerofone65 Since: Jun, 2015
Feb 22nd 2024 at 1:42:28 AM •••

Not to mention that the sharp contrast between Charlie and the rest of Hell is actually what makes her feel unique as a character.

Vanilla Protags are meant to bounce off of other more interesting characters to help make them more interesting, Charlie is the other way around.

ztyran Since: Oct, 2010
Feb 4th 2024 at 1:31:28 PM •••

A possibility of a Dramatic Irony as the concept of a battle between Heaven and Hell has been done before, but this is the first time where Heaven is the invaders.

Rezkel Since: Jul, 2020
Jan 22nd 2024 at 11:20:24 AM •••

We should work at editing, or removing, tropes and comments that source interviews, Word of God, and the like, now that the show is out it can speak for itself.

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priopraxis Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 28th 2024 at 7:38:13 PM •••

I second Rezkel's proposal. If there comics, then that should probably be its own page.

On another small note the current page contains the line

"In life, Angel Dust was an addict who overdosed on the drug he's named for in 1947, resulting in his death."

I'm a little unclear how this can be the case, since PCP- the drug known as Angel Dust...wasn't even invented until 1956.

AudioSpeaks2 (Greenhorn)
Jan 29th 2024 at 11:14:19 AM •••

Thirding. Most the tropes should be from the show itself.

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