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Oct 17th 2011 at 12:32:45 PM •••

I've decided to add quotes to the character sheet, since it seems like the trendy thing to do. However, there aren't any real good quotes for Captain Jhalm or the hag on the Quotes page, so I was wondering if anyone knew any good ones off the top of their head.

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Oct 17th 2011 at 2:16:36 PM •••

The front page has a quote from Jhalm that's not all that atypical, from here:

Jhalm: Honoured Burrower. Skulking though the woods I see?
Digger: Is there a law against it?
Jhalm: Several. But as you are unlikely to be either poaching or soliciting the sale of unnatural acts, I doubt we could make the charges stick.

Oct 17th 2011 at 4:09:06 PM •••

Ah, thanks, that's a good one for the hag. I don't really think the Jhalm quote really works, though — it's a dialogue, first of all, and isn't really representative of his character as a whole.

Oct 17th 2011 at 5:54:45 PM •••

Perhaps something from the first encounter with the cold servants aboveground, then? A couple candidates:

Edit: I'm liking the former more and more, actually. Plays into the good men working at cross-purposes theme of Digger's conflict with him.

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Oct 15th 2011 at 3:36:17 PM •••

I object to this example:

  • Sliding Scale of Gender Inequality: The People operate at around level seven, males can hold important posts, but it is shown to be far from the norm: there is only one male, Owl-Caller, on the Elder council, and he is extremely deferential to Boneclaw, even when saying he thinks she may be making a mistake, whereas the Female elders argue with her as near-equals. This is evolutionarily is Justified as this is how Real Life Spotted Hyenas operate, with the highest ranked adult male below all females and juveniles in female's care.
    • An argument could be made for level Eight or even Nine. When you think about it NO Male Hyenas appear: ED is an outcast, most of his own tribe won't admit he even exists and the rest are obliged to talk around the issue, and Owl-Caller is a Shaman, and in a lot of tribal cultures shamans have gender-inverted roles or are seen as gender-neutral. IF you count Owl-caller as “fully male”, then there is ONLY one male member of the people in the comic, and he is utterly deferential to Boneclaw and ends up needing a hug from Boneclaw by the end of his only scene.

To my knowledge, Sliding Scale of Gender Inequality applies to a work/setting as a whole. The hyena society is just one culture of many, so it makes more sense to file it under the regular Matriarchy trope. Here's what I propose instead:

  • Matriarchy: The hyena tribe are mostly a Patriarchy Flip, though with a few original elements as well. Males can hold important posts, but it is shown to be far from the norm: there is only one male, Owl-Caller, on the Elder council, and he is extremely deferential to Boneclaw, whereas the female elders argue with her as near-equals. Justified, since this is how Real Life spotted hyenas operate, with the highest ranked adult male below all females and juveniles in female's care.

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Oct 15th 2011 at 7:47:54 PM •••

Yeah, that strikes me as not only more accurate, but less nattery to boot. I for one see no problem with that edit.

Oct 16th 2011 at 3:28:56 AM •••

Mmh, yes, the second bullet point was pretty nattery and messily-organized, which is why I cut it. It also kind of disturbs me a bit since it carries an undertone of "See, fictional matriarchy's JUST AS SEXIST as real-life patriarchies so it's wrong, IT'S SO HARD BEING THE DOMINANT GENDER REALLY." Given how common that outside viewers criticize the wiki for such a prolific sentiment, we really don't need it here.

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