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Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 24th 2014 at 7:06:08 PM •••

What does the Word of God thing say specifically? I can't seem to access whatever comment that tells us this.

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TheStrayXIII Since: Oct, 2009
Aug 24th 2014 at 9:39:12 PM •••

The link brings you to the season's Amazon page. It specifically links to the developer commentary of the finale, where the writers would supposedly confirm that Ghazan and Ming-Hua were killed in the fight. It's a free video, but I can't access it because I live outside of the US. To make it easier, perhaps it should instead be explained that the details are confirmed by the writers in the developer commentary on the episode.

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Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 25th 2014 at 8:30:30 AM •••

Ah. Not USA citizen, kinda stuck too.

TheStrayXIII Since: Oct, 2009
Aug 24th 2014 at 9:50:23 AM •••

Are we allowed to list examples like the following?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 24th 2014 at 12:42:26 PM •••

Nah, each trope should get its own bullet points.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheStrayXIII Since: Oct, 2009
Aug 24th 2014 at 9:26:54 PM •••

Fixed. Is this entry alright?

  • Continuity Cavalcade: The climactic battle sees nods to several elements of Books 2 and 3's signature scenes of the original series, particularly the location (the crystal cavern and an aerial battle through a forest of spires), plot elements (the Avatar Cycle is threatened when the Big Bad attempts to kill the Avatar while in the Avatar State), fight match-ups (Mako vs. Ming-Hua/Zuko and Katara vs. Azula; Korra vs. Zaheer/Ozai vs. Aang), and even the conclusion of the fights (the Avatar is left severely handicapped following their near-death experience; the Big Bad is humiliated after their defeat and it is Played for Laughs).

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that Since: Sep, 2013
Still just awesome like that
Aug 23rd 2014 at 8:44:15 AM •••

Regarding this example:

  • Deus ex Machina: Downplayed, but the revelation that the poison given to Korra just happens to be metallic allows Suyin to bend it out of her when it seemed, through there being no waterbender healers nearby to help (Kya being down for the count), that Korra was done for. While the poison's appearance did hint at its nature, no one happened to mention this until Jinora conveniently does. At the same time, the Reality Ensues nature of what happens to her afterward subverts the trope even more, since even if she was miraculously saved there are major consequences which keep it from being anything close to a happy ending.
    • Jinora was spying on the Red Lotus using her astral projection. She would have noticed the men were metalbending the poison into her skin and deduced it was metal.

First off, someone committed a cardinal sin here (Repair Dont Respond).

Secondly, as the response there says, Jinora did see what the Red Lotus were doing via astral projection, so it could hardly be considered a Deus ex Machina. I don't even think the term is being used right here.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 23rd 2014 at 2:05:14 PM •••

I have never liked Downplayed Trope - it frequently seems like a vehicle for misuse. I don't get the subbullet, either (although that is probably because I am dead tired).

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
Aug 23rd 2014 at 4:57:03 PM •••

The subbullet is a Justifying Edit. It's not a Deus ex Machina because Jinora was spying, and given her well-learned background, would have been able to figure it out.

Keep it gone.

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