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Feb 4th 2013 at 5:18:21 PM •••

An i the only one who didn't like this wasnt the best as everyone hypes it up to be in my opinion.

Edited by MsCC93
Nov 25th 2012 at 10:32:28 AM •••

Is Babs really a Significant Green-Eyed Redhead ? Her hair is two shades of pink, and weird colors are common on the show. I mention the first because it is specifically listed as disqualifying for that trope. The second MIGHT be, but I don't think You Gotta Have Blue Hair actually covers the show, since normal hair/mane-colors DO appear in the show.

Nov 24th 2012 at 11:39:16 PM •••

I would have bought Babs as a "sympathetic" bully more if she hadn't continued tormenting the CMC even when Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon weren't there. Also, if you want to play the "bullies are kids with problems too" angle, it helps if the series antagonists aren't still being played as arbitrary cardboard cutout villains right next to her. And the fact that Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon got all buddy-buddy with a "blank flank", in spite of the fact that their whole motif is mocking blank-flanks at every opportunity was just the cherry on top. Just from THOSE three points, the portrayal of bullies and bullying in this episode was a bad caricature.

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Nov 25th 2012 at 7:28:43 PM •••

Unfortunately a realistic approach to bullying would amount to 'bullies are adult child abusers in training - and adults can often do nothing to stop it' which would never be greenlite for a kids show.

The fact that DT & SS were happy being friends with Babs is something I found very realistic. They don't really care about flanks being blank or not, they care about hurting other children for fun, and they will happily be friends with anyone or anything who shares this hobby.

Nov 25th 2012 at 8:37:44 PM •••

Although there were some fun moments in this one, it struck me as one of the weaker episodes because of the idea that "if you retaliate in any way against someone who's insulting and stealing from you, you're just as bad as the bully". Granted, the CMC's choice of prank was dumb — send Babs over a cliff? — but it only even worked because Babs was willing to physically attack them. Seemed to me like a naive, sadly ineffective moral.

A more grown-up version of the story would have had the adults tell the CMC that their clubhouse isn't really theirs and never has been, and that they have to share everything with someone who's a total jerk to them. But that's coming from someone outside the target demographic, and hits close to home for topics beyond schoolyard bullying.

Edited by Snow
Nov 26th 2012 at 9:14:10 AM •••

@ Snow:

If by "grown-up", you mean "Wangsty Teenager", then sure.

This isn't The '50s anymore, there's a fairly large movement to not stick heads in the sand when bullying shows up. And nuance is always a good thing, even if Babs didn't have enough screen time to be really fleshed out.

Nov 26th 2012 at 4:49:40 PM •••

Regarding the clubhouse: doesn't AJ say something like, "Hey kids, this used to be my old clubhouse! It's kind of a fixer-upper but it's yours now!" in Show Stoppers? So it really is theirs, or at least on the Apple property. Y'know, the same way Apple Bloom's bed is hers, or her room. I mean, technically she doesn't legally own it, but....

Nov 27th 2012 at 5:01:02 PM •••

@Snow: It wasn't the fact that they CMC were retaliating, it's that their retaliation involved jumping straight to an extreme (and potentially dangerous) form of retribution without so much as attempting any other solutions.

Nov 24th 2012 at 8:17:16 AM •••

Is this a Very Special Episodes?

Producers deny, but if we go to that trope page...

  • Emotional Issue
  • Very special guest star we never see again
  • Everyone is enlightened at the end
And another charateristic not listed on that page
  • The RL government mandated approach works first time without the kinds of problems or complications that almost always occur when this is done by actual people.

Smells like a VSE to me.

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Nov 26th 2012 at 9:16:28 AM •••

Sniff again. Babs is a fairly serious character, but a defining trait is that the topic is approached with grim seriousness.

And the RL government does not advocate telling your parental figures, actually, instead some crap about making amends with the bully...which never happens, as Babs comes around herself.

Nov 27th 2012 at 4:56:13 PM •••

Yeah, there was far too much humor in the episode to qualify. The main defining trait of a VSE is that the show drops its usual tone to emphasize the seriousness of the issue. The issue is relevant and emotionally based, but the show treats it with the same tone and level of humor of every other episode.

There's also an implication that the show wouldn't normally tackle such an issue, and doesn't usually deliver morals anyway. In this case, bullying is something well within the show's typical range of subject matter, and the entire point of the show is to deliver morals. This particular episode simply didn't deviate from the show's established pattern enough to qualify as a VSE.

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