Mrs. Robinson: I'm sure I'm not completely understanding of how all the tagging works, but The Doctor didn't refer to River as Mrs. Robinson because he had just met Sinatra. If you go back to 'Let's Kill Hitler', just after Mels regenerates into River, after flirting with the HOT Doctor the first half of the episode, she finds herself "all sort of mature" and quotes 'The Graduate's' Mrs. Robinson, referring to The Doctor as BENJAMIN.
Just as Rory goes down the stairs of the Tardis to talk with River and Amy you can see someone else waiting. That could be Matt Smith waiting to do his part when he interrupts them, or that could be The Doctor listening in on them. It could be similar to how he had his Jacket when talking to Amy in Forest of the Dead, a detail that only becomes fully noticeable after seeing the season finale.
About the Color-Coded for Your Convenience section. I, along with the friends who watched the premiere with me, could have sworn that what it says about the Doctor wearing different bow ties before and after his death was true. I've even seen other people online saying the same thing. The really weird thing is when I rewatched "The Impossible Astronaut" yesterday (TWICE, actually), I was shocked to realize that it was in fact a blue bow tie the entire episode. I watched it intently, trying to find a scene where it was red, but there was nothing. So if he only wore the blue bow tie in this episode, why do so many people recall him wearing a red one??
Hide / Show RepliesI am watching it right now. What about the few moments when he popped into the diner, after getting his special drinking straw? 12:39/43:36 My eyes are telling me that its red. But then again, my left eye sees things in monochrome.
Librarian. Druid, has miners as Ancestors.Nope, it's the dark blue one: Also, I just want to be clear that I wasn't the one who put Color-Coded for Your Convenience on the main page- whoever that was apparently saw two different colors, too. And I've seen at least one other site (which for some reason keeps track of the Doctor's bow tie colors for each episode) that mentions he wore two different colors. But I keep checking the episode, and it's really blue the whole time. I've got one friend who is so sure he saw both colors during the premiere of the episode that he insists they must have shot certain scenes twice, one with each color bow tie (but that's ridiculous, right?). Another weird thing is that everyone seem to disagree on if the red bow tie was before or after he died. It's really strange.
I just watched this twice. The bowtie is blue throughout the episode. The only thing I can think is some of the lighting tricked some people. Especially in the warehouse scenes.
I am not going to be adding any posts on the page until I am comfortable with the coding scheme. That being said; I think that "Really 700 years old" should be added. The Doctor told us (twice) that he is over 700 years old. Once was 1107 (?) and the other was 900+.
~Cheers, A.O.
Librarian. Druid, has miners as Ancestors. Hide / Show RepliesOne more thing; Add "Show/n their work" because the airing of the confidential after/next day shows how they built the Oval Office, how they made the Doctor dance with Laurel and Hardy, and several other key shots.
Librarian. Druid, has miners as Ancestors.We already have the Doctor listed as Really 700 Years Old on the character sheet.
Shown Their Work is more a trope about the research behind something than anything else - their design of the Oval Office might apply (although I've already seen people complain about the carpet *rolls eyes*) but the Doctor's dance with Laurel And Hardy would rather be something along the lines of Visual Effects Of Awesome.
Edited by SpiritOfSaharaDoes Joy count as a Punny Name? Just that for a moment it sounds like the answer to Amy's question is going to be something extremely evil, until it turns out that the Silence is just saying what her name is.
Hide / Show RepliesNot really a pun, though. But the way it said "Joy.... her name was Joy.... Your name... is Amelia..." might mean the Silence want something to do with people's names. Or something.
How are we going to deal with spoilers in this article? At the moment, the summary at the top spoils everything of the episode, while the spoilers in the Tropes part of the page are covered. Not really logical.
What is this signature line thing? Hide / Show RepliesConsidering it hasn't even been a week since the episode aired, I'd vote for keeping most of the summery covered up with spoilermarkers. (Which it is when I'm writing this.)
Weirder still is why we still have the original summary under the new one. Is there some reason for this?
Someone else sent me a PM saying to abide the Handling Spoilers rules, meaning no spoilers above the Tropes part of the article. However, since the episode was very recent and hasn't even been aired in some parts of the world, I think it's fair to keep the spoilers for a little while. If not, I'd vote to remove all spoiler tags, including the ones in the Tropes part, and add a bolded spoiler warning at the very top, something along the lines of "Spoilers abound - hit the back button right now if you don't want to be spoiled". Similar to the The End of Time recap.
Edited by Lu What is this signature line thing?Surely as a recap page, people will come to this page expecting to be infromed and there fore spoiled about the plot and tropes of the episode. Reasonably, we should only spoil-out things from the "next time" trailer.
Yeah, sorry - I started placing a recap without thinking about spoilers, but took a break partway through and then forgot to come back.
Okay, finished now, and spoilered from the first surprise, though others may want to edit this. It looks kind of ugly at the moment.
Edited by DanelI'm inclined to say that there should be no spoiler-tagging on this page at all. It's a recap page. Spoiling the episode is its explicit function.
(Okay, that's not quite true. Spoilers for future episodes should be tagged, if there's some reason to refer to them on the page.)
Edited by Micah 132 is the rudest number.agree with the striking of all the spoilers ('cept for when it touches on future episodes), this page is where people come to get a recap of what happened so that stuff is what they are here for.
Well, now that the second episode of the two-parter has aired, can we begin cutting down on the spoilers? I agree with the troper above that it would be an idea to keep everything that touches future episodes spoiled, but seriously, do we even know how much of this will be brought up again? I'm just saying. It's Moff writing.
Is there a trope for when two people know what the other is saying even when they can't hear each other? And it's not because of any psychic link but because they know each other so well (like an old married couple). I know I've seen it in sitcoms before (but no examples come to mind).
I'm of course referring to The Doctor's and River's exchange in the Oval Office, with River still in the TARDIS.
The Doctor(in the Oval Office): Have you got my scanner working yet?!
River (in the TARDIS): Oh, I hate him!
The Dcotor (in the Oval Office): No, you don't.
I could be wrong but the TARDIS walls seem pretty thick.
Edited by aareavis Hide / Show RepliesI thought it was just the Doctor kinda just knowing River would say that given what he asked her to do.
the trope you are describing is a type 2 The Firstlaw Of Sitcom Acoustics (type 1 occurs when the companions have an incredibly long and not too quiet conversation about his future self less than a foot away from him), but that scene is the doctor just messing with River's head and being a Sufficiently Advanced Alien. He's been "messing up" and giving her stuff to do to look clever(er than him) but when he needs her to do something he shows he's been playing with her all along.
Edited by CrypticMirrorWell spoiling the name of the Silents throughout is absolutely delicious. That part, at least, keep. Speaking of whom, am I the only one who thinks Cloverfield when I see them?
Possible entry, either for Mythology Gag or Hilarious in Hindsight in regards to the Doctor turning the TARDIS invisible; as I understand it, for a time before settling on the Police box, one possible concept the BBC had in 1963 for the TARDIS was to have it be invisible, thereby averting the need for an expensive prop they would need to work into every episode. From a quick I cannot however, find a source to confirm if this is true or an urban legend, nor am I sure which of the two tropes fits better given that, as a rather deep cut into the show's BTS lore, it is unlikely that they had it in mind when writing the episode
Edited by Agent53