Discussion MyersBriggs / ExamplesOfIdealistPersonalitiesInStories

I added Lucina from Fire Emblem Awakening into the INFJ category, but am not so sure on it. The description seems to match, but she strikes me more as a Sensing person.

What do you think about Somni-451 being an INFJ? I'm talking about the movie's one, in the book she's quite different and I find it a bit more scheming and cold, and perhaps doesn't suit it as well. However, in the movie she is definitely and idealist, I'd say she is an introvert since she spents much time following and observing, trying to understand things before acting, and last I'd index her as an INFJ more than an INFP since her ultimate sacrifice is a carefully planned action, with her final speech focused on how people are connected one to the other and trying to having them realize it and their role.

why are all the characters gone ? there's only like five for each category now ?

Uh...who put Robin from Fire Emblem Awakening in INFP? I mean, I'm an INFP and I love him to death and would love for him to be INFP as well, but it just doesn't fit. Chrom is the feeler, 'act on impulse', Robin is the do what is logical and what must be done. Every typing of him seems to be INTP or INTJ. I would love to see an elaboration...

I'm personally leaning towards INTJ, but I won't move it if someone actually has a good reason.

Some of the typings on this page are very odd. Zuko an INFP? I've seen him typed many times, and near universal consensus is he's ISTJ or ISFP - I've never seen INFP suggested (and for good reason). Mako is absolutely not INFJ, he's IXTJ. JD is clearly a perceiver, he's INFP.

Alright, whoever keeps moving Nagito Komaeda from INFJ to INFP, stop. This is the third goddamn time I've had to move him back here, and if your reasoning is that "he's an idealist who lives by his own values" then, quite frankly, you don't know what you're talking about.

First of all, an INFP is way more than just a standard idealist, because there are idealists all across the type spectrum. Here's a description of an INFP, an idealist who lives primarily in their own emotional state and personal ethics, the kind of person who would be likely to save a friend at the risk of dooming a nation.

Meaning, harmony and personal values are at the heart of the INFP. It is essential to the INFP that their beliefs and actions are totally in sync. An INFP is unlikely to take any action which they don’t believe in their heart is right. Sensitive, caring and empathetic INF Ps are excellent in supporting roles. Deep and private, they do not like being boxed in or constrained by rules.

And then there's an INFJ, the kind of person more likely to doom the friend for the sake of saving a nation and feel entirely justified in doing so, though it might hurt.

Serious minded and caring, values are so important to the INFJ. Integrity is their watchword and they will be excellent listeners, supportive and with a strong desire to ‘do the right thing’ often the catalyst for making things better. The INFJ will work patiently long and hard behind the scenes to maintain harmony but they are also intensely independent of thought and spirit.

So, as you can see, there's a distinct difference, and Komaeda falls so cleanly into the latter category that there really isn't any room for debate.

Second of all, Komaeda does not live by "his own values" in the sense that an INFP does. If you actually knew anything about the entire goddamn point of his character, then you'd know that he's addressing a major problem in Japanese society—that is, that people are born with inherent worth or value. Sure, he's a bit (read: a lot) more complex than that, but social morals are, uh, literally the definition of Fe. When looking for hope in his own life, his first response was to adopt SOCIETY'S views on hope (hope's peak is literally the hope of the nation, so) rather than lose himself in his own idealism, then construct a mental framework based on that (tertiary Ti), which resulted in the weird views on hope we see him with in canon. This isn't his natural mode of operating; this is the mental defense he uses to KEEP HIMSELF GOING. Because his life sucked that much.

Nobody's arguing that he's not an intuitive type because this guy's all about the abstract side of things (which, hey, extra points towards him being an N-dom type rather than an F-dom), and there are people who argue that he's not an introvert but they're dumb because he very much is, no matter what your definition of the word is. For goodness' sake, he enjoys reading, spend a large portion of his life convinced he was content with no meaningful human relationships whatsoever, often keeps to himself unless he actually has a reason for interacting with others, and, most tellingly, he dislikes loud places—places that would disturb his peace of mind. Why he's a J rather than a P is because of how single-minded with a devotion to vision and order rather than emotion and disorder that he is in a way that Ps (ESPECIALLY I Nx Ps) aren't. The primary difference between INF Js and INF Ps is that while INF Ps generate abstract possibilities (aux Ne) based on their own emotions and ideals (dom Fi), INF Js have an overarching vision (dom Ni) of how things should be. In-the-moment emotional visions versus single-minded grand visions based on ethics. Komaeda is ABSOLUTELY the latter. There's also the fact that INF Ps are emotional and Komaeda, is, well, probably the most emotionally detached character in the entire freaking series, and the fact that he hides this so well while staying so outwardly animated is, hey, another point for INFJ.

One argument I've seen is that he's a P because he relies on luck, but that's... uh, his luck works pretty systematically. So, another point for J.

As the final nail in the coffin for him being anything but an Fi-dom while having a good understanding of others' emotions generally associated with Fe, there's a part in chapter 4 where he correctly deduces that one of the students had been crying about another, then muses about the fact that mourning the dead would change nothing. If that's not Ni-Fe, I don't know what is.

So, yeah. Really obvious INFJ, possibly in a bit of a dom-tert loop. Please stop moving him. It's giving me headaches.

Might I inquire why "Healer" was changed to "Poet"?

Anyways, in light of some edit wars, I thought I'd make a thread to discuss the cases for why we include the characters without being unilateral, and here it is.

Who put Armin in the INFJ? He's already listed as an INTP, which fits him MUCH better.

It should be obvious that Armin favors thinking over feeling. Do I really need to give an example for this?? Use your brains, people.

On another note, perceiving over judging. We can see that Armin is open-minded and likes to give himself time to decide, as opposed to Js, who like to get decisions over with quickly based on the circumstances at the moment. I mean LOOK at him, is there any question that he's a dang INTP? Smh.

For the love of god - can we PLEASE stop listing Eren Jaeger as an ENFP when he isn't?

I'm aware that there's an MBTI chart floating around that lists him as such but he truly, truly isn't. I'm an ENFP myself and Eren absolutely does not display true ENFP characteristics.

Eren is an ESTP. He's blunt. Impulsive. He doesn't think about the big picture. I could write a full argument on the matter - especially given how much I've researched into ESTP before deciding it's well and truly his type but for the time being - please stop listing him as an ENFP.

Moved Cloud Strife to INFP, and Vincent from INFP to INTP.

Cloud was originally in ISTP, which people don't realize is the persona he put on in FFVII, but not his true type. To me, his INFP really comes out in Crisis Core, and later Advent Children as well. I've seen arguments for him being an ISFP, so if you want to debate that, that's fine. But at his core, he is not an ISTP. He is simply not a thinker.

Vincent could also be an INTJ, I could see the argument, but he's in INTP for now. However do not put Cloud in ISTP- he's not a feeler, and he's probably not a sensor either.

I moved JD from Scrubs from ENFP to INFJ. The J/P issue I might be willing to debate, but while it is not obvious at first, he is absolutely an introvert. His daydreams and fantasies might be over-the-top and wacky, but remember, those are DAYDREAMS. A rich inner world is more indicative of an introvert. I'm sure that if you watched an episode of Scrubs with all of the fantasies and narration removed, JD would come off as much more reserved than he does as is.

Check out this article on the Disney Princesses, it's really well-thought out. And, in my opinion, VERY accurate. I hope it can offer some advice for the MBTI examples page! http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/disney-princess/articles/210893/title/myers-briggs-portraits-disney-princesses