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Sheneshta Since: Jan, 2014
Jan 2nd 2015 at 2:26:30 AM •••

Okay since I don't do edit wars, I'll discuss this with whoever is involved about the following bit:

  • All Men Are Perverts / All Women Are Lustful: Played straight for both. Obvious for men (see the Rape tropes gathered in the corresponding section), less so for women. However most adult female characters with a pivotal role are very much connected to sex or just lustful. Most exceptions are underage (Schierke, Sonia, Jill...), elderly (Flora) or non-human (Ivalera, Isma), with Casca as a true exception. More evidently, the female half of the two tropes is seen in the orgies shown throughout the series.
    • All Women Are Prudes: Averted for the most part. There is no woman in the series that is clearly "anti-sex" but a variation exists among the wholesome, innocent and pure country girls which often end up being assaulted and raped by marauders and apostles.

as opposed to that one:

Here's the thing: rape is a constant in Berserk, no one denies this for a second. But the pagan orgies depicted in the works, along with the various pivotal female characters connected to sex attest that All Women Are Lustful, not just the occasional one. The ones that arent lustful, with the exception of Casca, are either elderly, underage or non-human.

Saying that the women clearly seen orgasming and enjoying themselves in the pagan orgies (the count's arc or Slan's worshippers) have been raped because they're not the ones leading it doesn't make it Questionable Consent. It's YMMV material, not factual.

Let's discuss this further so we can come to a consensus.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jan 2nd 2015 at 12:05:15 PM •••

Either way each entry should be attached to one trope, not two.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Sheneshta Since: Jan, 2014
Jan 2nd 2015 at 2:07:41 PM •••

It shall be done that way if that's how the policy works.

Sheneshta Since: Jan, 2014
Jan 8th 2015 at 11:20:10 PM •••

Alright, it's been a week a still no answer to the discussion. I take it Mazaka isn't interested in this issue anymore so I'll be rewording all of this.

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