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Florien Since: Aug, 2019
3rd Jan, 2020 06:11:59 PM

First thing, probably send them a P.M. or somesuch asking for elaboration on their reasoning, or get them into the discussion tab of the work, possibly bringing in other people knowledgeable about the work in question. Best to avoid an edit war.

Sneekshion Since: Nov, 2019
3rd Jan, 2020 06:13:48 PM

Alright, done the first and will do the second shortly. It's been forever since I used TV tropes, so I'm not actually sure how to link people anymore though.

jjjj2 Since: Jul, 2015
3rd Jan, 2020 06:29:17 PM

I cannot speak for this series at all. I don't follow it. However the wikipedia page states that they use "both male and female pronouns for himself; despite this, he has stated that he is a man 'in both body and soul'" Has the author just changed their mind?

Edited by jjjj2 You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the mid
Sneekshion Since: Nov, 2019
3rd Jan, 2020 06:43:39 PM

I'll try to keep this as concise as possible because there's a lot in the books and I don't want to flood everyone's chat. I'd like to cite the sources, but I lack them at the moment.

"He is a man in body and soul" This is a statement Ferris says in Arc 4.

However, In arc 5, Which was written after Arc 4, The Character Capella brings this into doubt, in fact saying she's lying. She even offers her the chance to get effectively magical GRS, which she doesn't argue against wanting, and chose to stay silent.

Secondly, this line "He is a man..." Is was updated in the Light Novel, which the author states is the Final version of the web novel and in the Light novel, it says "This outfit reflects my body and spirit" referring to the girl's outfit she was wearing.

As for Pronouns, Ferris in japanese prefers female pronouns, and she even calls herself Ferri-Chan, which I'm told [Own Name]+Chan is often used by childish women. Overall however, Ferris will call herself a girl if she can do so, as in the novel's she's introduced herself as a girl to several people, Including Ram, one of Subaru's allies, Wilhelm, one of her closest allies, alongside characters like Garfiel and Ricardo. She also goes into the girl's bathroom when she can, even showering with the other girls. She only calls herself male when she is forced to, as in Volume EX 1, she says along the lines of this to herself when a woman confronts her about her gender.

In my opinion, the author set her up to look like a crossdresser, but even in her introduction he hinted that she was more likely trans, (As she gets very upset at being called by her birthname, akin to a deadname.) And this gets built up from Arcs 3 to Arc 5 before being confirmed in EX 1.

Edited by Sneekshion
Sneekshion Since: Nov, 2019
3rd Jan, 2020 08:15:11 PM

I got a Pm from the user, at the time they had told me something that was like

-The character didn't say "I want to be a girl"

But, while the character didn't states "I want to be a girl" they are saying "I am a girl" wouldn't this be the same thing?

- They also argued that the passage can be interpreted as Ferris wanting to be feminine instead of a girl.

But the thing is, it again it still has her say she wants to be a girl, with the narrator confirming that she really believes that the words she's saying are true.

Edited by Sneekshion
Florien Since: Aug, 2019
3rd Jan, 2020 09:15:52 PM

I'm hesitant to recommend replacing what they removed, as that seems to fall under edit war territory, but they seem to be splitting hairs here. Possibly go to the discussion page on the work and see what other people knowledgeable about the work would think. Based on what I've seen however, I'd say it shouldn't have been cut.

nombretomado (Season 1)
3rd Jan, 2020 10:14:36 PM

OP, please edit to paraphrase PM contents. Do not copy/paste them as-is.

If needed, mods can verify PM's privately, but the contents should never be posted publicly.

Sneekshion Since: Nov, 2019
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