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29th Sep, 2019 08:03:18 AM

Consensus is that using the gendered redirect is fine. I would revert to the gendered redirect and link either here or to the discussion page in the edit reason.

29th Sep, 2019 08:54:28 AM

Good to know for my case, too. When I leaned not to pothole the trope name, I thought redirects were no exceptions either.

29th Sep, 2019 09:51:46 AM

As I mentioned the last time this came up, I personally don't think redirects and potholes should be treated differently in trope lists, but it seems I'm in the minority on that. At the very least, redirects that only affect gender usually don't mess up the alphabetization, so that's something, I guess.

29th Sep, 2019 07:07:16 PM

Out of the three examples, one of them is actually a Recap subpage, not a Characters subpage. I feel that means the gendered character exception should not apply and only the proper trope name (or US/Commonwealth alternative spelling) should be used, not an opposite gender alternative.

29th Sep, 2019 07:08:40 PM

^ That seems arbitrary, though. Why shouldn't it be used there?

30th Sep, 2019 09:30:35 PM

Because it isn't a subpage/folder about a specific character. Episodes don't have genders.

30th Sep, 2019 09:39:04 PM

^ But it's a character trope about the character featured. Just because it isn't on a character's page doesn't mean the trope is no longer about the character.

30th Sep, 2019 10:13:49 PM

^ Agreed with WarJay. The trope refers to the character, not the episode. "Episodes don't have genders" is a flawed argument.

1st Oct, 2019 02:15:34 AM

^It's not just flawed, it's absurd. Just because the example is on a recap page doesn't turn the old woman into an old man.

1st Oct, 2019 05:49:42 AM

Just because you used a gendered term for the trope title doesn't make the trope about gender. The list of tropes are from the episode, not one character.

Edited by crazysamaritan
1st Oct, 2019 10:57:10 AM

About gender? No. About a character? Yes.

The trope being on the episode page instead of the character page doesn't magically make it a non-character trope.

You're being pretty unreasonable here, Crazy. Whether or not someone wants to use a gendered redirect on a recap page is not a big deal; it certainly isn't something to get upset over.


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