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LB7979 Since: Apr, 2016
11th Sep, 2018 12:06:04 AM

First of all, is the book Canon?

Let's say it is. If the book and the film each have their own page, it's probably best to keep stuff from the book to the Literature page. If you'd like explain background stuff coming from the book on the Film page, it's probably best kept in a [[note]][[/note]].

If there's a Canon book of a film, it's useful to add to the work description of the film "A Book of the Film, called [name] was made and its page can be found [[link here]], or something similar.

StFan Since: Jan, 2001
11th Sep, 2018 03:23:08 AM

Yes, it is fine to be put on a film's page. This generally falls under the trope All There in the Manual.

jamespolk Since: Aug, 2012
11th Sep, 2018 08:54:44 AM

^But only under All There in the Manual, and only when tropes/info in the novelization explain plot points that are less clear in the film, such as with the 2001 novel. A work page for a movie should not be littered with tropes that are not actually in the movie.

MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
11th Sep, 2018 09:10:35 AM

If i am not mistaken, the information in a different continuity is not necessarily Canon to an other continuity. I read a good time ago, in the character page of a crossover, a hidden note saying to only include information in the crossover in question and not in the original work.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
11th Sep, 2018 12:11:03 PM

But this isn't necessarily a different continuity. A novelization is, for all intents and purposes, the exact same story but with more detail in places that the film either could not or did not make time for.

An example I used before I can think of offhand is Revenge of the Sith. There's a scene where Yoda speaks to someone through the Force, and later gives Obi-Wan a mission "from my new master, and your old one". This is in the movie, but not that elaborated on. The novelization, however, assuming I'm remember correctly it's been a while, at least shows the actual conversation between Yoda and Qui-Gon Jinn in this scene.

I can maybe see this as All There in the Manual, but I can just as readily see it as a proper trope entry into itself, as long as the fact it's from the novelization is mentioned.

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
11th Sep, 2018 01:22:17 PM

I was about to say that the film and its novelization should be treated as separate works, but then I remembered that we actually have precedent for the opposite: where the film page lists information about both itself and the novelization, since they are effectively the same work in different formats.

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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
11th Sep, 2018 01:46:03 PM

So, to summarize the responses; the best thing to do is to make a Works page for the novelization. Officially-sanctioned Derivative Works may be included in the Original Work's description. Examples of tropes from officially sanctioned derivatives without a page may be listed on the original work page, so long as the example clarifies what derivative it appears in. All There in the Manual goes on the parent work page, not the derivative work page.

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