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wingedcatgirl MOD (Holding A Herring)
2018-08-14 20:40:05

From a quick ctrl+F of the edit history, it looks like the section just never got deleted whenever we made it NRLEP.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
2018-08-14 20:43:46

So should I just delete it?

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wingedcatgirl MOD (Holding A Herring)
2018-08-14 20:47:20

Well, you can't just delete it because the page is locked. What you can do is wait a bit to make sure nobody comes in with a real reason, then go to the locked page edit request thread on the forums and ask a mod to delete it.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
2018-08-15 00:21:03

Um. Is Political Correctness impacting stories that irrelevant to troping that we can delete it under NRLEP? Frankly, I think the title of the trope is the main problem here as it leaves no room for "a work is respecting sensibilities" examples.

Maybe splitting that section off and putting it into Political Correctness would be a better move.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
2018-08-15 06:39:43

I thought real life was dealing with real life situation. Though, i do think thnk the name is a problem and the first section could be move to its own trope.

TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
2018-08-15 07:33:00

^^ The examples are real life examples, because they categorize the real life situations that led to the changes as examples. The fact that a whole section of real life examples is allowed on a NRLEP page is what's confusing.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
2018-08-15 11:46:38

Yeah, I think that splitting it off would work to reduce confusion.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
2018-08-15 12:31:26

But splitting it into what? Also some of the examples are just nonsense, like the one under live-action tv, which didn't affect the work at all.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
2018-08-15 13:28:21

"Political correctness impacting stories" needs to be split off into its own Political Correctness article. Political correctness leading to changes in a story is a trope, but it's not the same trope as a story deliberately discussing and parodying political correctness.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
2018-08-15 13:57:24

But "political correctness" is a nebolous, extremely fluid, and ill-defined concept. What is the criteria for an example?

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010
2018-08-15 16:55:16

I cannot conceive of any scenario where such an article would not devolve fairly quickly into edit wars and ROCEJ violations.

TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
2018-08-15 18:02:31

Exactly why I think all of these should just be deleted.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
2018-08-15 22:54:51

We can deal with this with a page lock. Also, now that I think about this this should go to TRS once some of the older threads are closed.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
2018-08-16 06:34:51

The section seems to be failing to draw a distinction between In-Universe uses of the trope, where a written work contains internal conflicts over political correctness, or documents them in other works; versus out-of-universe cases where political correctness has affected a real work.

Further, it seems to be inherently subjective whether a particular example of political correctness is "gone mad" or not, and thus constitutes a form of editorializing that is inappropriate for a factual trope.

That section should be removed and any In-Universe examples transplanted to the proper section.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
2018-08-16 14:27:38

We need a mod to do that. Page is locked.

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
2018-08-17 17:14:22

Here's the sandbox. Jesus this page was bad. Minority characters were referred to as "ethnics". The entire Print Media section wasn't even about it impacting fiction, it was just tropers giving their opinions on real life news stories.

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