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From a quick ctrl+F of the edit history, it looks like the section just never got deleted whenever we made it NRLEP.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
So should I just delete it?
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Well, you can't just delete it because the page is locked. What you can do is wait a bit to make sure nobody comes in with a real reason, then go to the locked page edit request thread
on the forums and ask a mod to delete it.
Um. Is Political Correctness impacting stories that irrelevant to troping that we can delete it under NRLEP? Frankly, I think the title of the trope is the main problem here as it leaves no room for "a work is respecting sensibilities" examples.
Maybe splitting that section off and putting it into Political Correctness would be a better move.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I thought real life was dealing with real life situation. Though, i do think thnk the name is a problem and the first section could be move to its own trope.
^^ The examples are real life examples, because they categorize the real life situations that led to the changes as examples. The fact that a whole section of real life examples is allowed on a NRLEP page is what's confusing.
Yeah, I think that splitting it off would work to reduce confusion.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
But splitting it into what? Also some of the examples are just nonsense, like the one under live-action tv, which didn't affect the work at all.
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"Political correctness impacting stories" needs to be split off into its own Political Correctness article. Political correctness leading to changes in a story is a trope, but it's not the same trope as a story deliberately discussing and parodying political correctness.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
But "political correctness" is a nebolous, extremely fluid, and ill-defined concept. What is the criteria for an example?
I cannot conceive of any scenario where such an article would not devolve fairly quickly into edit wars and ROCEJ violations.
Exactly why I think all of these should just be deleted.
We can deal with this with a page lock. Also, now that I think about this this should go to TRS once some of the older threads are closed.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
The section seems to be failing to draw a distinction between In-Universe uses of the trope, where a written work contains internal conflicts over political correctness, or documents them in other works; versus out-of-universe cases where political correctness has affected a real work.
Further, it seems to be inherently subjective whether a particular example of political correctness is "gone mad" or not, and thus constitutes a form of editorializing that is inappropriate for a factual trope.
That section should be removed and any In-Universe examples transplanted to the proper section.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
We need a mod to do that. Page is locked.
Oh, right. Sandbox a cleaned version and we'll transplant it.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Here's the sandbox. Jesus this page was bad. Minority characters were referred to as "ethnics". The entire Print Media section wasn't even about it impacting fiction, it was just tropers giving their opinions on real life news stories.
Political Correctness Gone Mad is No Real Life Examples, Please!, for good reason. However, the entire first section of examples ("Examples of Political Correctness Impacting Stories") is nothing but real life examples (in that we are classifying the real life situations that caused these changes as examples). Why is this?
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