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It doesn't have a citation link, right? Then delete it.
It does have a citation. I'm just pointing out the Double Standard.
it's YMMV, not a double standard
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Still, I find it odd that when Zazu sings the song, it's okay, but when Hi-5 sings it, it's insensitive to black slaves.
Is a single reviewer from Vox really enough of a citation?
This is one of those claims serious enough I would think we need a more credible source than a random film critic from a media site discussing it to cite.
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^^ nobody is saying that, it's YMMV. That means that somebody read one instance as bad, and maybe they haven't seen the other. It's not a double standard because they are separate entities. Hence the requirement for citation and the page warning that these reflect individual opinions. It's wrong to try to draw a comparison.
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It's most likely because everyone hates The Emoji Movie while a lot of people love The Lion King.
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I actually enjoyed the movie? But regardless, I highly doubt that's a credible source anyway.
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The point of citations was to avoid a single person saying "yeah, I think this means bad stuff". In theory, all YMMV examples could be found online, in various tweets, blogs, and forums. The "citations only" requirement is easily met by Vox whatever your personal opinions of their authors.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
The "citations only" thing is in place to prove it's an Audience Reaction, not a "your reaction" thing. And, well, no one had that reaction to it in The Lion King.
A large part of it may be that, you know, Hi-5 didn't just sing the song, it was a parody of the song so that's somewhat disrespectful, you know?
... in an unrelated note, holy shit at that The Handmaids Tale tweet. Wow.
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AFIAK the rule is actually the citation needs to be from a credible source.
And a random person's blog, Twitter account, or forum post are not credibly "more than one person".
Yes, paid reviewers are credible sources, regardless what your personal opinion of Vox is.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
I have always hated The Lion King and found it racist so you are free to add that to the page.
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Being a paid writer doesn't make someone credible, though.
Or else you could cite some crazy, fundamentalist Christian review site since someone is technically paying their staff. For me credible on issues like racism would be an academic or a critic with far more rep than a random Vox writer.
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"you could cite some crazy, fundamentalist Christian review site" — yep
Remove your opinions about the writer/website, and you're left with "you could cite some Christian review site", like www.christianitytoday.com, www.pluggedin.com, redeemedreader.com, www.thegospelcoalition.org/reviews/, www.morethanareview.com, and many more. Nobody gave you or me authority to judge reputation (which is notability by another name).
[Citation: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1340376123028260100
Add a verifiability/citation standard so as to prevent shoehorned/Troper Tales/personal examples.]
That completely defeats the credibility rule and and flies in the face of this sites attempt to be "academic".
Well, There Is No Such Thing As Notability, so people are free to post whatever they feel deserves to be listed under a specific trope page or work page (whether it remains there is another story). As far as I'm aware, Unfortunate Implications is the only trope that requires citations to ensure that this is really what others have thought rather then just whoever posted the example as it has been misused in the past.
So naturally this means that whatever counts as a "citation" is very lax since citations aren't as strict as say, Wikipedia.
That's not what no such thing as notability means.
it just means no work or creator is to obscure to have a page. It doesn't negate the guidelines of tropes with strict standards like Unforunate Implications
This site has never been meant to be academic. The "citation needed" rule exists to keep super tiny minority examples off Unfortunate Implications. A paid reviewer does not fall into that category of unwanted examples.
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On YMMV.The Emoji Movie, the page lists Hi-5 singing "Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen" as an unfortunate implication (see the actual page for more info). Thing is, didn't Zazu sing the exact same song in The Lion King? Why is it acceptable there but not here?