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FallenEditor Since: Jun, 2012
25th Jun, 2012 05:53:50 AM

Maybe. Just be sure to give more detail on the issue so the others can help you more easily.

MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
25th Jun, 2012 07:38:30 AM

I think that note means if the character received the name in-universe because of something they did or are, it doesn't count.

So if Luke had been born Luke Willis and became Skywalker because he was a great pilot, then it wouldn't count as that trope.

MarqFJA (Before Recorded History)
25th Jun, 2012 12:50:26 PM

^ That doesn't seem to be the case, considering the immediately preceding paragraph. The note is pretty much a brief summary of a much longer explanation.

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Zyffyr Since: Apr, 2010
25th Jun, 2012 01:34:44 PM

Marq, what Mr Death said is exactly what the long description says.

MarqFJA (Before Recorded History)
25th Jun, 2012 02:38:25 PM

... So if a character was born as Olaf, and later in his backstory acquired "Skullcrusher" as a surname due to his reputation for crushing skulls of enemies, it doesn't count? That's pretty much the basis for examples such as Warhammer and Warhammer Forty Thousand's Orcs/Orks, since they don't have families and thus the concept of "family name" is alien to them, so an Orc's/Ork's surname is always an epithet acquired from due to some action/incident/personality trait/place/history/etc that's associated with the Orc/Ork in question.

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Zyffyr Since: Apr, 2010
26th Jun, 2012 04:37:24 AM

Correct, there are many invalid examples under the definition we have for the trope.

shimaspawn MOD Since: May, 2010
26th Jun, 2012 07:39:57 AM

This is a job for TRS to decide if Earned Epithet should be it's own trope or included in Luke Nounverber or if Luke Nounverber should just be cleaned up.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
MarqFJA (Before Recorded History)
26th Jun, 2012 06:50:00 PM

Thanks, shima. I'll try to work out an OP draft for such a TRS soon... assuming that no one had beaten me to it already or by the time I get around to it, that is.

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MarqFJA (Before Recorded History)
6th Aug, 2012 05:06:28 PM

On second thought, I just discovered that we have Earn Your Title, which appears to date back to 2009.

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