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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
3rd Dec, 2023 10:41:30 PM

I sent them a PM about this thread.

CorvusIX Since: Aug, 2020
4th Dec, 2023 03:15:21 AM

They had reverted the characters page once already before reverting it again, so I’m pretty sure that this now counts as an edit war.

Edited by CorvusIX
AcidicRafter2 Since: May, 2019
4th Dec, 2023 09:04:55 AM

Whoops, I didn't see this thread. Sorry, I wanted to make a case for why the names shouldn't be "Part 1" and "Part 2". We don't have to use the wiki if 2024 doesn't work. But I really really oppose the concept of 2023 being retroactively titled like this.

Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
4th Dec, 2023 09:05:42 AM

Acidic, you reverted the change for a third time. You are edit warring. Stop changing it or you run the risk of getting suspended.

Edited by Arctimon
AcidicRafter2 Since: May, 2019
4th Dec, 2023 09:08:29 AM

I have to respectfully say that these new names aren't good and shouldn't stick. And the last ATT thread didn't properly convey what we could do about the two new seasons. Just "Part 1 and Part 2" versus "2023 and 2024".

I want a compromise so we're all satisfied while matching the consensus.

Edited by AcidicRafter2
Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
4th Dec, 2023 09:18:25 AM

It doesn't matter whether you respectfully disagree with it or not. That's what the thread came up with, and they even agreed that there's not really good options if other seasons comes out.

Unilaterally changing it back (like you did three times) is not the way the process works, and it seems like "the consensus" and "the compromise" you want is the way you want it.

AcidicRafter2 Since: May, 2019
4th Dec, 2023 09:33:18 AM

The thread didn't come up with it, the thread creator did and primarily just listed those two options. But there's a third. The consensus everywhere literally calls the first season "Island 2023" not 2023 part 1 as that's a horrendous name. If it was the way I wanted it, I would call it 2023 and 2024.

But if that's disagreeable, I was thinking we call the second season TDI (2023) Season 2. That would be logical, non committal to yearly dates and makes sense. I apologize for editing so suddenly.

Edited by AcidicRafter2
CorvusIX Since: Aug, 2020
4th Dec, 2023 09:51:36 AM

Everyone in the thread agreed that Part 1 and Part 2 are the best names to help differentiate the seasons, at least for now, and you reverted the character page after Part 1 and Part 2 were added on to the season titles not once, not twice, but three times, and started an edit war in doing so, just because you don’t like those names, despite knowing that these names were agreed upon the latter two times and after the creator of this thread sent you a notifier specifically instructing you to not do that the third time.

While I may not be a mod, I am familiar enough with the TV Tropes rules to know that this kind of behaviour warrants a suspension.

As for the Season 1, Season 2 idea, I think that would be too confusing as the previous season is already also being called Season 6 and Season 7 while the new season is already also being called Season 7 and Season 8, assigning a third season number to each of these seasons would just make things more confusing than they already are.

Edited by CorvusIX
AcidicRafter2 Since: May, 2019
4th Dec, 2023 10:00:50 AM

You specifically pushed for Parts 1 and 2 while making a huge argument against TDI 2024, of course they would agree when you didn't present any other options.

Using this suggestion wouldn't be confusing at all as long as we kept the Total Drama Island (2023) moniker. Everyone calls the Reboot: Total Drama Island 2023. I don't see how TDI 2023 Season 2 is confusing but TDI 2023 Part 2 isn't. Since you think 2024 doesn't work, it'd make more sense to use my secondary idea of TDI 2023 and TDI 2023 - Season 2 as a compromise than the god awful part number names. It looks extremely out of place and bugs me a lot.

It's literally called season 2 in the show, so we have in-universe reasons to consider as well.

Edited by AcidicRafter2
CorvusIX Since: Aug, 2020
4th Dec, 2023 10:03:27 AM

I wouldn’t call the name choices “godawful” when you seem to be the only person who has a problem with them. Anyway, I’m now going to add Part 1 and Part 2 back again, I trust that you won’t revert them a fourth time.

Edited by CorvusIX
AcidicRafter2 Since: May, 2019
4th Dec, 2023 10:06:03 AM

I haven't seen any other fan call that Reboot season: Total Drama Island 2023 Part 1, that's just clunky. It makes more sense to use TDI 2023 and TDI 2023 Season 2. It's even referred to as season 2 in the show so why not? I can accept not using 2024 if that logic bugs you.

AcidicRafter2 Since: May, 2019
4th Dec, 2023 10:07:34 AM

How about you don't add them back and discuss an agreement instead? Because brushing off me and numerous fans that don't refer to either season in parts is unfair.

Edited by AcidicRafter2
CorvusIX Since: Aug, 2020
4th Dec, 2023 10:13:11 AM

An agreement was already reached, the only reason this is conversation is still going is because the reached agreement wasn’t the one that you wanted. As I’ve already said, these were the names that were agreed on and no one here seems to have a problem with them except you.

AcidicRafter2 Since: May, 2019
4th Dec, 2023 10:16:31 AM

Again, there isn't a soul in this fandom referring to the first or second season as "Part 1" or "Part 2". I am absolutely taking the wider fanbase into account here, TV Tropes using parts just pointlessly muddies the waters. I have a problem with it because you never listed my alternative suggestion as an option. You made a discussion point and it consisted of your argument against 2024 in favor of parts. But you didn't discuss the alternative title. That deserves a fair argument and discussion for.

Using TDI 2023 Season 2 won't confuse anyone. Tiktok, Twitter, Discord, Reddit, everywhere is calling it season 2 of TDI 2023. The official show calls it season 2. Work with me here, I'll apologize again for abruptly editing the pages. I'm not familiar with how deciding stuff works around here especially not with Ask the Tropers.

Edited by AcidicRafter2
shadowblack Since: Jun, 2010
4th Dec, 2023 10:21:24 AM

This argument is clearly not going anywhere. At this point the best thing to do is wait for mod input.

AcidicRafter2 Since: May, 2019
4th Dec, 2023 10:23:07 AM

I'd prefer to reach an agreement with Corvus than bother the mods, I'll concede that initially trying to call it Total Drama Island 2024 could be needlessly complicated.

Edited by AcidicRafter2
CorvusIX Since: Aug, 2020
4th Dec, 2023 10:30:32 AM

I also think it would be better to wait for mod input since I also don’t see this argument going anywhere, and that should permanently resolve the issue.

Edited by CorvusIX
AcidicRafter2 Since: May, 2019
4th Dec, 2023 10:44:59 AM

It would be better to give a fair discussion instead of arguing. I apologized already, I wasn't aware that there was a way to talk about and thoroughly decide these kinds of things.

I never even got a chance to make my case while you got to make yours freely. It's not just my preferences if the show itself and everywhere in the fandom refers to the names I'm using.

Edited by AcidicRafter2
GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
4th Dec, 2023 12:45:56 PM

I suspended Acidic Rafter 2 from the wiki and queries to nip this in the bud.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
4th Dec, 2023 12:47:16 PM

Thanks; seems this will be resolved in EB, then. Locking.

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