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It was actually this thread and the comment I linked specifically showcases examples of underaged characters talking about or, in the last one, being involved in a graphicly described sexual scene.
Read that thread and get back to us.
Edited by WarJay77 Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
There is no graphically described sex scenes in the story. No details of penetration, or anything akin to that. I wrote the story, so I know what's in it. There is a scene that reveals Lemy is being sexually abused by Lily and there is some touching that happens to illustrate this point... but it fades to black before getting into implicit details.
It's still not a good look to describe a child's boner and someone kissing his neck
Like, it's a balance when you don't want the scenes to be arousing and that scene doesn't work
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
If it's still too *adult* for the trope site, that's fine. But I won't have my work described as being pedobait fap material when it's not that. I clearly have Lily being presented as *wrong* in the context of the story, just as Lincoln and his sisters were *wrong* for engaging in their actions while they were so young.
That's one of the major themes of the story. How Lincoln and his sisters compromised their entire lives, and the continued lies they keep telling themselves and one another to justify their lifestyle.
If you found that scene arousing rather than horrifying, as I did while writing it... I think that's more on you.
I didn't find it arousing, but the writing of that specific paragraph does NOT make it clear that it's horrifying. It uses language you may see in works that SHOULD be arousing.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Yeah, look. If several people all point out your writing is objectionable, and you wildly missed the mark of what you were going for, then maybe you need to revise it.
I haven't read any of these scenes, so I'm not saying this is the case for you or not, but I do know that there is a difference between something being horrifying because of the overall context and being horrifying because of how it's presented. The TV Show Dexter famously has an opening which depicts the titular character doing his morning routine in a manner that is uncomfortable and reminiscent of disturbing violence, but which in context is perfectly innocent.
By the same token, intentionally or not, you can present scenarios like sexual assault and exploitation in ways that are titillating/exploitative to the audience, even though by the context of the scenes and story they are clearly meant to be objectionable. I've seen more than a few works criticized for how they handled these kinds of portrayals.
Bunnyofdoomo
Most of the people that have read it and reviewed it, commented on how creepy the scene is, and how Lily comes across as the Villain in the scene.
So quite frankly, I have to disagree with you. The audience that is reading it, which is quite large, has had no trouble seeing the themes behind the writing. I haven't had anyone in my reviews of the story talking about how "hot and sexy" the scene is. Most of them are quite horrified, but saw it coming and more wonder how the rest of the family will react when the truth is revealed.... Particularly since they've also caught on to how the Sin Loud family's entire ethos is built upon a House of cards.
This is why I have to disagree with the take being presented here. No one whose read the story is under any false pretenses of what it's about or what the themes are.
It's only here, taken through misrepresented cherry picked quotes from the text, have I run into anyone misinterpreting the text.
As someone who just recently came across this and read the thread about it, the subject material in the fic is very clearly not kosher for the site, and I agree that it was cut (with a pretty large consensus as well).
Regardless of what the intentions of what was written and how anyone can interpret it, at the end of the day it talks about a kid having sex at 12, and that alone is enough for the page to be cut.
As bunny said, unless there's going to be a revision to clean up some of the...questionable content, the page isn't coming back.
EDIT:
Unless I completely missed something here, no one is describing your story like that. We're just stating that we have to make sure not to have another Google incident like we did in the past, and if that mean the page has to get cut, then it's getting cut.
Edited by Arctimon
OP, you may disagree, but the fic is still too spicy to have a page. Don't treat the removal as a personal attack, or having a page as a sign of honor. We have standards to answer to, including corporate ones, and "characters of specific age" and "sexual interaction" in same context can get us in trouble regardles of explicity or intent.
Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Right, look, I'm not arguing that your fic is pedopandering or that you intentionally wrote it to be arousing. I know that's not your intent. The issue at hand is the graphic detail and the very concept of young children having sex, which you have to handle very delicately in order for your work to get a page. (Child Rape as a concept isn't banned or anything since it's usually not depicted directly, but we don't exactly want to have scenes where the kids are actually shown in sexual situations) It being there in the first place, and with that level of detail, means that not only could it be misinterpreted, but that it's something we can't discuss on our site.
Edited by WarJay77 Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Hi there, I'm the author of the fanfic Loud House Story "Without Sin: All Star Edition". A fan made an entry here on the site... and it was brought to my attention the story was cut.
Now, be that as it may for the entry being cut, after reading the thread involved, I saw a gross mischarterization of my story and wanted to set the record straight.
For one, the story is not an endorsement of Incest, or child sexual action. There are no explicit sex scenes within the story. There are no 'lemons', no detailed scenes of characters engaged in the act of sex with one another.
For two, the story does not condone what has transpired between Lincoln in the "Sinverse" and his sisters. The quotes that were used in the thread were all from 'Sin Lincoln"'s perspective. He is biased, that's the point. He doesn't want to see what transpired between himself and his sisters as 'wrong'.
For three, the 'sins' of his family have resulted in one of his own children being a victim within the story of grooming.
What has happened to Lemy, with his aunt 'Lily' is not presented as good and wholesome, but quite the opposite.
The point of this story is to take a good hard look at the 'sinkids' fandom in the Loud House, and present the realistic circumstances that would have to take place for them to exist...with a Lincoln from another world who was not involved in an incestuous relationship with his sisters becoming involved and how he reacts to it.
The story is not an endorsement of incest, child sexualploitation or anything akin to that. It is a condemnation of those things... while still presenting the children that resulted from the actions as 'innocent' of their parents's collective sins.
While titlation does exist within the story, there are no sex scenes and there will be no sex scenes within the story. I can understand if you think the story still does not 'belong' on tvtropes but I wanted to set the record straight exactly on what the story is NOT.
It is not an erotic incest pedophiliac story meant for wank material.
It is instead an exploration of the fandom of the Loud House that often has an incest filtered Kink, but in a realistic manner with the consequences of those actions.
Thank you.