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We can't really trope info if it's not in X-Men Comics or other published material, and non-serious Twitter conversation doesn't sounds like a published material to me.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupThe art for Glowbrie does come from an actual issue. I wouldn't call the information given on twitter about them fanon either - they are canon characters (the Marvel wiki treats them as such too). Bob Quinn is a creator who made these characters and is providing more information on them there, as many writers and artists do these days. For example, Vita Ayala has provided tons of information on characters that appear in their comics via twitter and other sources that is considered canon, as it relates to the character's gender identity, extent of their powers, relationships, etc. that can't always be easily worked into the comics. However, in the case of these three, they are clearly intended to be funny background characters with odd powers with no story relevance, unlike the characters Vita gives info on. While Soft Serve has been mentioned by Forge, that was clearly to get a laugh out of anyone who knew the reference.
I would suggest hiding but not deleting the entries and if they ever become story relevant, then they could be unhidden.
Do we have a source for that Marvel wiki? I know some fandom wikis list them, but I can't see anything official on marvel.com character search or in handbooks etc. - i.e. nothing that's clearly All in the Manual.
Although Ayala and Quinn have commented on Marvel characters elsewhere (as have Kieron Gillen and others), if they're not creator owned that's Word of God trivia at best (as God Does Not Own This World), isn't it?
Not trying to be awkward, just trying to clarify the facts on this one. Thanks!
Edited by Mrph1Just a reminder, what other wikis do and don't do are not guides for what TVTropes does.
Unless this is something in the comic books, it doesn't belong.
Edited by laserviking42 I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meThe best that can be done is an entry on Word of God, explaining who they are, where they show up, and what their powers are intended to be. Nothing on the main article can be added because they're background figures with no canon statements.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.I think that settles it. I’ll delete them from the character page and try to work out some suitable Trivia and Word of God content.
Thanks!
Update: just revisiting this to mention that Staff-Created Fan Work seems to the trivia trope I was seeking, so I'll also list them that way.
Revisiting this - one of them was added as Ensemble Dark Horse on YMMV.Way Of X.
I've cut the example citing the discussion above.
An odd one -
Characters.X Men Krakoans includes three joke characters created by artist Bob Quinn (Slamazon, Soft Serve and Glowbrie). They were invented and named on his Twitter and then, when he was drawing X-comics (work-for-hire, so not creator owned), he drew them into the background of big crowd scenes - Slamazon and Glowbrie have had one panel each, Soft Serve's had two. None get dialogue or are identified in any way.
Their names and powers aren't canon or directly acknowledged by Marvel. Soft Serve, who apparently has the power to “poop ice cream” prompted an indirect reference from a writer in another X-book, mentioning a mutant girl with the power to create great ice cream, but that's it.
(I believe all of the art used on the character page is from Bob's Twitter, not the published comics. In the comics Soft Serve is practically a stick figure holding an ice cream cone who's only visible if you zoom in, for example)
So they're basically somewhere between very short fanfic and an in-joke. There Is No Such Thing as Notability, but I'm also a little wary of a page about Marvel Universe characters starting to accumulate fanon along with canon.
My instinct is to delete their character entries until/unless they actually, officially join the Marvel Universe - and to put something on the relevant Trivia pages to acknowledge Bob hiding them in crowd scenes as a joke. Does that sound appropriate?
(I think we've got a vaguely similar issue on Characters.Marvel Comics Captain Britain Corps, where some of the Captain Airstrip One tropes seem to be taken from fanfic in a 1980s UK fanzine, not from anything Marvel ever published - but the trope list makes no distinction. Still researching this one, though)
Thanks!
Edited by Mrph1