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AllanAokage Since: Dec, 1969
#51: Jun 15th 2010 at 12:50:11 PM

Yeah, that's what I meant. Also called tower attacking by the fandom, I think.

Ianator The Raddest Pokemon Ever from Nuvema Town Since: Jan, 2001
The Raddest Pokemon Ever
#52: Jun 25th 2010 at 6:58:03 PM

I just did a Lv1 Free Dungeon in Makai Kingdom. Picked up a Syringe, a Drum and a Beam Sword (and maybe a Mystic Hammer too). On Stage 10 I solo'd my Mandragora... because a stupid Mimic whacked my tome on its first turn. Spent the rest of the stage getting poisoned by Daggers before making it to the altar Extension... where there was an enemy with a Makai Cannon.

Teach me to do Free Dungeons without my Thief.

SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
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#53: Jun 30th 2010 at 5:23:22 AM

Beep, beep, blip, beep... 98.875% chance it is his mother. Laharl != Oedipus.

So yeah, my copy of Disgaea Infinite arrived today. It's quite good! So far it seems like an entire game of Disgaea dialogue without that pesky combat interrupting things, which is pretty rad. Plus, more of Mao is always welcome.

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SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
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#55: Jun 30th 2010 at 6:43:11 AM

And Raspberyl. Can't forget Beryl.

I suppose. I haven't gotten to the point where she shows up yet. I'm in the classic adventure game scenario of knowing exactly what I need to do, but having no idea how to accomplish it. I did manage to get one of the bad endings by accident though, so I guess that's something.

edited 30th Jun '10 7:55:08 AM by SuperDimensionman

GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#56: Jun 30th 2010 at 7:50:39 AM

I'm still early in the game. Is it worth waiting to get genius characters or are the different competency levels not really that relevant until later?

The term "Great Man" is disturbingly interchangeable with "mass murderer" in history books.
Knighted Minimalist Since: Apr, 2010
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#57: Jun 30th 2010 at 7:53:41 AM

They're not relevant until you want to start reincarnating and maxing stats.

Anybody else try to make classes that have skills not fitting for them? I'm making a mage that's going to only use fist weapons.

NEETing now.
GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#58: Jun 30th 2010 at 8:03:53 AM

So they're not relevant at all for a new character? Or they're only slightly relevant? (Minmaxer here.)

edited 30th Jun '10 8:04:04 AM by GameChainsaw

The term "Great Man" is disturbingly interchangeable with "mass murderer" in history books.
Blissey1 insert title here from a random Pokècenter Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#59: Jun 30th 2010 at 8:05:50 AM

if you really wanna blow 10k mana every time, then go ahead tongue more stats are more stats, after all.

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Knighted Minimalist Since: Apr, 2010
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#60: Jun 30th 2010 at 8:06:16 AM

Not really, you can always reincarnate them as a genius level class later.

NEETing now.
AllanAokage Since: Dec, 1969
#61: Jun 30th 2010 at 8:08:46 AM

I'm still early in the game. Is it worth waiting to get genius characters or are the different competency levels not really that relevant until later?
Assuming you're talking Disgaea 1 here; no, not really. It's generally a much better idea to have a bunch of "Incompetents" (or whatever's easiest for you, just not Good-For-Nothings) raised to whatever level it is (200?) that you unlock the highest-level classes, then start a new character at "Genius" level from then on, if you've got sufficient Mana from levelgrinding.

Or that's what I recall some guide or another saying.

GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#62: Jun 30th 2010 at 8:10:15 AM

Got it. Get a group of incompetents or averages into the 200's, then reincarnate as the toughest class and as a genius. (Disgaea 1)

edited 30th Jun '10 8:10:35 AM by GameChainsaw

The term "Great Man" is disturbingly interchangeable with "mass murderer" in history books.
SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
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#63: Jun 30th 2010 at 7:40:05 PM

You also don't need to bother with that Dark Assembly approval nonsense if you reincarnate into a Genius, rather than making one outright. Loopholes!

Shadowtext Trickster God from the noosphere Since: Jan, 2001
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#64: Jun 30th 2010 at 8:21:08 PM

Do you need the Dark Assembly to reincarnate into a Genius? I thought that was only to create Genius characters.

I also thought I had seen an analysis showing that reincarnating as less than the second or third best rank was basically pointless. Or maybe that was reincarnating while the character is below level 100 or something.

I do know that there was some reason they said that the only reason to reincarnate before you start being able to go up hundreds of levels at a time was to reincarnate into a better class tier, for classes that have to have a particular tier at a particular level to unlock the next tier, like with Mages/Skulls.

edited 30th Jun '10 8:22:17 PM by Shadowtext

SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
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#65: Jun 30th 2010 at 8:23:15 PM

Do you need the Dark Assembly to reincarnate into a Genius? I thought that was only to create Genius characters.

No, you don't. That's what I'm saying; it's another reason to just make your characters' first incarnations Skilled.

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SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
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#67: Jun 30th 2010 at 11:51:16 PM

"Dissection first, love later!"

Infinite never ceases to be quotable. I guess the writers decided that Mao wasn't creepy enough in Disgaea 3?

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#68: Jul 1st 2010 at 12:59:53 AM

^^I used, until I reincarnated him into a rune knight.

In fact, I have unlocked the male "bishop" tier, while I've never made a female cleric yet (I'm playing on DS, first New Game Plus, Laharl reincarnated once or twice, currently level 58, haven't completed Gargantua Interior because I use Gargantua Deck for leveling up).

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
AllanAokage Since: Dec, 1969
#69: Jul 1st 2010 at 7:36:27 AM

I never reincarnated Laharl when playing Disgaea. Mainly because you don't need to for the main story =P

And I don't even remember male clerics in Disgaea 1, so I'd presume that I didn't have one.

Also also: Disgaea Infinite looks hilarious. Isn't it for the PSN, though? :(

SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
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#70: Jul 1st 2010 at 7:39:44 AM

Also also: Disgaea Infinite looks hilarious. Isn't it for the PSN, though? :(

Maybe, but you can also get it on a UMD. Given that I don't have a functional WLAN, and it wouldn't be out in the Australian store yet anyway, that's a very good thing for me.

edited 1st Jul '10 7:39:51 AM by SuperDimensionman

AllanAokage Since: Dec, 1969
#71: Jul 1st 2010 at 8:31:07 AM

I don't have a PSP, sadly (which is what I presume UM Ds are for. Feel free to correct me xP).

Then again, there are quite a few PSP games which I'd consider getting if I could find them (and a PSP) at a cheap-ish price. Hum, hum, hum...

Ianator The Raddest Pokemon Ever from Nuvema Town Since: Jan, 2001
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#72: Jul 6th 2010 at 11:06:58 AM

So I started a new game of Disgaea the First and I'm trying to get into Etna's Secret Room. I've pulled the lever behind the throne but I can't find the bloody entrance!

I pulled the lever in Chapter 1, but I'm in Chapter 2 now. Have I missed out on a Testament?

SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
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#73: Jul 6th 2010 at 11:11:28 AM

So I started a new game of Disgaea the First and I'm trying to get into Etna's Secret Room. I've pulled the lever behind the throne but I can't find the bloody entrance!

There's another switch underneath the skull on the shop counter. The entrance is in a suspiciously-empty corner of the middle room.

I pulled the lever in Chapter 1, but I'm in Chapter 2 now. Have I missed out on a Testament?

Possibly. I think you just have to read the entry for each chapter, and I think you can still read the entries from before you opened the room, but either of those things could be false.

edited 6th Jul '10 11:12:23 AM by SuperDimensionman

Ianator The Raddest Pokemon Ever from Nuvema Town Since: Jan, 2001
The Raddest Pokemon Ever
#74: Jul 6th 2010 at 11:21:53 AM

Derp. Thought the Game FA Qs entry was talking about a Mage, not that thing sitting on the counter.

Meh. Only had two-and-a-half hours in here anyways.

AllanAokage Since: Dec, 1969
#75: Jul 6th 2010 at 11:45:33 AM

I'm reasonably sure that it's okay as long as you catch up.

But if you wanna be on the safe side, you could always (spoilered to be safe, since some don't like solutions being thrown out to them) lose to Mid-Boss and get a NG+.


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