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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#77801: Jun 11th 2019 at 4:41:49 PM

[up][up][up]I'm wondering if the hook is that seeing all three routes is the key to unlocking the Golden Ending to save everyone. Kinda like how Zero Escape games do it. I'd be down for that.

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ILikeRobots Aspirant Creativity Wizard from the worlds of my imagination Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#77802: Jun 11th 2019 at 4:47:51 PM

[up] x2 I don’t think we need a new thread, but if you’re adamant about it no one can stop you making it. I don’t promise how active it’ll be or how many people will post there as opposed to here about it though.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#77803: Jun 11th 2019 at 5:10:35 PM

It's not a Golden Route as the leaks mentioned. Just a Neutral one.

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
Editor of Posts
#77804: Jun 11th 2019 at 6:02:23 PM

notably, the reason givne for it not being a golden route was Edelgard's ruthlessness. They didn't clarify whether you kill a bunch of guys with Edelgard or you have to straight up turn against Edelgard and kill her. The latter would certanly explain why Edelgard's route splits in two.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#77805: Jun 11th 2019 at 6:17:39 PM

[up] I certainly hope that it's not a choice between those two options.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#77806: Jun 11th 2019 at 6:22:38 PM

Yeah if we could not do the "Woman ruler becomes a crazy, ruthless dictator and must be put down" thing, that would be great.

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#77807: Jun 11th 2019 at 6:24:12 PM

RE: Lord Vatek

To be fair, something other then Females Are More Innocent would be a welcome change, so long as it wasn't Character Derailment.

PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#77808: Jun 11th 2019 at 6:26:37 PM

[up]Replacing one negative stereotype with another wouldn't exactly be great.

The whole women can't be trusted with power thing has been a problem in multiple cultures.

[up][up][up][up]Welp, that would be one game I wouldn't be completing then.

Edited by PhoenixAct on Jun 11th 2019 at 2:27:33 PM

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ILikeRobots Aspirant Creativity Wizard from the worlds of my imagination Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Aspirant Creativity Wizard
#77809: Jun 11th 2019 at 6:28:26 PM

I don't see Edelgard being ruthless as a "we can't trust women with power" or anything. I actually like the idea of a protagonist being more ruthless, especially a female one. A lot of FE protagonists are extremely idealistic, and it's unusual for them (especially the women) to be anything more than bleeding heart friendly. Not that there's anything wrong with that in a vacuum, but it gets stale quickly.

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#77810: Jun 11th 2019 at 6:28:48 PM

RE: Phoenix Act

I'm mainly just hoping that the serene green haired bishop is the true mastermind, whilst the Obviously Evil Old man we've seen is just a Red Herring. I should hope Edelgard stays playable and isn't shoved to the side. Her being more ruthless then the other lords, but staying heroic/sane wouldn't be a problem. If anything, it could make her a Breakout Character, I feel.

Edited by Monsund on Jun 11th 2019 at 6:29:45 AM

PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#77811: Jun 11th 2019 at 6:38:15 PM

[up][up]Maybe, but I feel like it adds up to the same thing if you have three rulers, and it's the sole woman amongst them that ends up going mad with power/becoming a tyrant.

Edited by PhoenixAct on Jun 11th 2019 at 2:38:38 PM

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#77812: Jun 11th 2019 at 6:40:08 PM

Back in RD, Ike was the nice one and Micaiah was the vicious/misguided one, so...

Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#77813: Jun 11th 2019 at 6:41:43 PM

RE: Phoenix Act

We'll have to see, but the last few games have overused female antagonists defined by being controlled or corrupted by a male villain, its been a very long time since we've had a genuinely evil and independent villainess.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#77814: Jun 11th 2019 at 6:45:01 PM

I will say that Dmitri seemed to be losing it a bit too, what with the "Kill them all!" bit.

Regardless, I'd much prefer if Edelgard comes close to crossing the line, and you have to choose between leaving her (and probably eventually facing her in battle) and staying by her side while serving as her Morality Chain.

Mind you, even if this story is somewhat darker than usual, I can't really see the game letting the player go full Knight Templar.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Jun 11th 2019 at 9:48:20 AM

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#77816: Jun 11th 2019 at 7:11:47 PM

Well I'm definitely picking Claude.

Unless...

What if the student you pick before the timeskip becomes your primary enemy afterwards, and you have to unite the other two houses against them? Now that would be gut-wrenching.

Also, everybody? If it's in the trailer, it's not a spoiler.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#77817: Jun 11th 2019 at 7:18:25 PM

The problem is people mixing in discussion of the leaks.

dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#77818: Jun 11th 2019 at 7:24:18 PM

Men, the game's release just keeps getting closer and closer. And I cant wait until the full details of the story are revealed.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#77819: Jun 11th 2019 at 7:25:14 PM

Personally, I can't wait to play the game rather than read leaked full story details.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#77820: Jun 11th 2019 at 7:27:29 PM

Just to get an idea, who here would be in favor of splitting leak discussion off into a separate thread?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77821: Jun 11th 2019 at 7:57:06 PM

Once the game comes out I'm gonna livestream it. Dunno if anyone's interested in watching, but I intend to go in pretty blind, some of this leak info aside.

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MachThreeSlug Doin' stuff from Australia Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Doin' stuff
#77822: Jun 11th 2019 at 10:12:55 PM

Made a spoiler thread for Three Houses.

Go nuts with your leak discussion over there.

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dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#77823: Jun 11th 2019 at 10:39:57 PM

Almost at the end of Genealogy, finally putted down Manfroy for good.

Unlike Arvis, who even though he did some pretty awful stuff. I did manage to feel a bit of pity for him in the end.

Manfroy on the other hand? That asshole was pulling the strings of almost everyone! All for the sake of resurrecting a demonic dragon!

Edited by dood9780 on Jun 11th 2019 at 10:40:17 AM

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#77824: Jun 11th 2019 at 10:40:43 PM

Manfroy just wanted to make all his pairings canon.

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dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#77825: Jun 11th 2019 at 10:48:29 PM

That reminds me... I have heard this interpretation that Manfroy in a way represents those FE players that pair certain characters for the sake of getting the best stats... taken to its logical extreme.

Though I am not 100% sure if that is how the interpretation went.

Edited by dood9780 on Jun 11th 2019 at 10:49:44 AM

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