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Taelor Don't Forget To Smile from The Paths of Spite Since: Jul, 2009
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#52: Jun 2nd 2011 at 12:08:52 AM

He wasn't the most heroic guy around but Griffith from Berserk would be a Slytherin, as I previously mentioned.

The thing about Slytherin is that it's key traits are charisma, cunning and a lot of self-interest. These things lend themselves to evil characters more often than not. But of course, as seen with Slughorn, a Slytherin can have all of these and still maintain a conscience.

Gryffindor is just about Loyalty and Bravery and both of those things are easy enough to findd in villains that aren't cartoonishly evil. Having just started Trigun up again I can see Legato being a Gryffindor.

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#53: Jun 2nd 2011 at 12:36:03 AM

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Two gold stars.

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#55: Jun 2nd 2011 at 12:47:32 PM

^^^ Actually, Loyalty is Hufflepuff. Gryffindor is Bravery, Chivalry, and Determination.

Anyways, I'm back with that Star Wars set I promised to do, from the (chronological) beginning.

I augmented the list a bit, so...

  • Gryffindor: Valor, Courage/Bravery, Determination, Chivalry
  • Hufflepuff: Goodheartedness, Work Ethic, Loyalty, Honor, Judiciousness
  • Ravenclaw: Intelligence, Wit, Studiousness, Good Sense/Clarity of Mind
  • Slytherin: Cunning, Ambition, Diplomacy/Charisma, Cautiousness/Self Preservation

Still trying to decide whether "Driven by Emotion" should be up there as a Gryffindor trait, but, in any case… here we go.

Introduced In Episode IV:

Luke Skywalker:

  • House: Hufflepuff
    • At first I was going to put Luke in Gryffindor, but then I got to thinking about it.
    • Most importantly, Luke is incorrigibly, unflinchingly, fundamentally good. At first this showed itself in the first movie as wide eyed idealism, mixed with strong determination to do what's right. By the end of the third movie, his naivete is all but gone, but his pure goodness remains - it's what makes him such a quintessential hero. He does what's right and seeks to bring out that sense of right wherever he can: and if he can't, he'll either keep trying to make sure evil cannot destroy what he's already pledged to protecting. In that, he is extremely loyal and upholds a sense of honor in the third film that pretty much everything seems to want to take away from him.

Han Solo

  • House: Slytherin with a strong loyal streak
    • He extremely self-preservationist, but he's also extremely loyal to people who he decides to be loyal to - by the end of the trilogy he's still very self-preservationist, but the difference is that his definition of self evolves from "me and Chewie" to including the whole group: he'll do anything to protect the people he's loyal to, even sacrifice his other values. Anyways, he's very cunning and definitely has that "certain disregard for rules" which Slytherins embody, bringing him into a strong trifecta with Luke and Leia.

Princess Leia

  • House: Gryffindor
    • Like Princess Jasmine, it's something of a mix between Gryffindor and Hufflepuff (the diplomatic / fair-hearted Princess character type nearly always has major Hufflepuff traits, and this is no exception), but here her Gryffindor traits shine through. Unlike your average princess-senator, and even moreso than her mother, she puts herself on the front lines and fights for the things she believes in, never relenting even in the face of torture. She is extremely headstrong, which is probably clearest in her first appearance aboard the death star.

Darth Vader (Not Anakin Skywalker)

  • House: Ravenclaw
    • I'm doing Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker separately because they were introduced separately, and Anakin went through a pretty major personality change.
    • Not even as a full villain does Vader show much in the way of Slytherin traits. He is cunning, but it comes across more as methodical intellect than trickery - he is all about control. Control over his emotions, over the empire, over the odds and over the circumstances in which he meets people: every situation that the heroes encounter him in have been in his court. Far from his emotional youth he makes sure he knows everything about what he's doing, or controls those who do with no uncertainty, before doing it - an odd personality for one who uses a style which banks mainly on rage.

Grand Moff Tarkin

  • House: Ravenclaw with shades of Slytherin
    • For all that Tarkin is an effective character and villain, we don't get to know him too much. We don't know whether or not he's brave or cowardly - he insists on staying on board the Death Star during the attack, but he's also of the arrogant belief that there's no way he could actually be in danger. We don't know how loyal he is to his men - he's no Bad Boss, apparently, and he stops Vader from choking the officer, but otherwise doesn't give his men much thought. We also don't truly know how ambitious he is. Presumably his high position in the Empire is due to ambition, but he's more seen to be attached to the power the Empire itself wields, rather than out for personal power.
    • He is, however, cold, calculating, and cunningly intelligent. He seems practically detached from humanity in the way he thinks about the universe: people and their actions are only the tools of the empire to him. Everything, from diplomacy to aggression, is a part of the chess game, and everything is judged by how well it will work towards the eventual goal: every setback instantly given a contingency, and every strength cherished and. He barely ever shows any emotion at all, actually. You might say Tarkin is the Evil Opposite of Leia, and a symbol of the dangers of a militaristic, Machiavellian authority: while Leia (and by extension, to the viewer, the Republic) is harsh but cares about the people she leads, with every action is taken to benefit as many as possible, and every sacrifice remembered, Tarkin cares little about anything but the goal, and is willing to coldly destroy anything he deems unimportant or expendable in the path to it - or, even, to destroy what he knows the enemy finds important, with nothing but sociopathic detachment towards it himself. All his good points are there because they help get the job done - sacrificing troops is not a waste of life as much as a waste of resources, and letting one's emotions get the better of you is a sign of a manipulatable trait, or, in the case of Vader choking that officer, something which will eventually get you nowhere but behind schedule.

Coldly tactical, authoritative, and calculating to the last.

Jabba The Hutt

  • House: Slytherin
    • Textbook evil mobster, only out to profit and help himself, with no cares but what benefits and protects his investments. He has no problem being affable and diplomatic, just as much as he has no problem torturing, killing without reason, and inflicting horrible fates on those who even think about crossing him. Narcissistic, greedy, vengeful, manipulative, and self-serving to the point sociopathy: he's a textbook evil Slytherin.

(Old Man) Obi Wan Kenobi

  • House: Hufflepuff with shades of Ravenclaw
    • I'm going to enter his younger self separately later, because the way I see it they have opposite placement - young Obi Wan is more Ravenclaw with shades of Hufflepuff than anything else.
    • As an old man Obi Wan keeps his calculating mind but is a bit wiser for his age as well - he is less aloof and tactical and his more judicial, temperate traits shine through. So, he falls directly in his role as mentor, teaching first and foremost to Luke that he should be open-minded, honorable, to work hard and never give in towards his destiny, and confident while being a shining pedestal of that sort of thing himself. He is a lot more caring, to the point of sparing Luke's feelings in the first film, and gives aid where it is needed. He's really between the two houses in the original trilogy, as at one point or another he shows qualities indicative of both, but I'm going to have to go with Hufflepuff over Ravenclaw here - because he is extremely judicial.

edited 2nd Jun '11 1:03:29 PM by KnownUnknown

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#56: Jun 2nd 2011 at 1:37:40 PM

Homestuck.

  • John: Hufflepuff.

  • Rose: Ravenclaw.

  • Dave: Gryffindor.

  • Jade: Hufflepuff

  • Karkat: Gryffindor, but wishes he was in Slytherin.

  • Terezi: Probably one of the best examples of a heroic Slytherin.

  • Vriska: Gryffindor. Kinda controversial, considering she's a villain (and bluh bluh huge bitch), but I stand by it. She just doesn't make sense as a Slytherin: she's not cunning or manipulative in the slightest, isn't particularly ambitious, and has very little instinct for self-preservation. On the other hand, she is very fearless (to the extent of suicidal foolhardiness, as recent events have shown), and is very determined to win the game in as big a munchkin fashion as she can.

  • Sollux: Ravenclaw.

  • ghost/robo!Aradia: Ravenclaw.

  • alive!Aradia: Hufflepuff.

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#57: Jun 2nd 2011 at 3:30:16 PM

Okay, how about Batman?

Batman: Hufflepuff. Yes, Hufflepuff. What really defines him, at his core, is his utter devotion to his crusade- his absolute, unwavering dedication to going out on the streets every night fighting crime. He is hard working and loyal, very Hufflepuff.

Joker: Ravenclaw. Its ideas he's obssessed with: weather its making some grand philosophical point about the coruptability of man or the randomness of life, or simply trying to get a good laugh out of Batman, its about ideas, making a point. In a very twisted way, he is an intellectual.

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#58: Jun 2nd 2011 at 5:10:28 PM

Mmmmmm, I can't say I agree with that. Past a certain point I think some characters are too well-developed to be shoehorned into the houses, especially when they have like sixty years of material to draw evidence from. I mean, how do you classify Spider-Man? He's Ravenclaw material, sure; learning is important to him. But he's loyal and incredibly hard-working, and he's a total hero, and those aspects of his personality are equally-important to him.

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#59: Jun 2nd 2011 at 7:16:25 PM

One Piece:

  • Luffy: Hufflepuff
  • Zoro: Gryffindor
  • Nami: Slytherin
  • Usopp: Slytherin
  • Sanji: Slytherin
  • Chopper: Ravenclaw
  • Robin: Ravenclaw
  • Franky: Hufflepuff
  • Brook: Hufflepuff

You know, now it kind of seems that Hufflepuff is the hero house.

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riidenlieko Since: Oct, 2010
#60: Jun 4th 2011 at 1:46:43 AM

Fullmetal Alchemist (manga, since I'm most familiar with it):

Edward: Has traits suitable for every house, really. Maybe Ravenclaw?

Alphonse: Also has traits of many houses (maybe not Slytherin but the others). Hufflepuff?

Roy: Definitely Slytherin.

Winry: While she has ambition as an automail mechanic, far frome the most ambitious character in the series. She's can also be brave, situations considering, but I think her supportiveness and caring would make her a Hufflepuff.

Ling: Slytherin.

Greed: Slytherin as well.

Izumi: Gryffindor or Ravenclaw?

Olivie: Slytherin.

Alex: Hufflepuff.

Hughes: Slytherin of Hufflepuff, it depends.

The Homunculus/'Father': Slytherin.

Lust: Slytherin or Ravenclaw?

Pride: Slytherin.

Characters I tried to figure out but couldn't at all include Riza, Lanfan, Kimbley, and most of the Homunculi. I didn't feel like just dumping all the Homunculi in Slytherin, since they don't really fit the description, and it's pretty obvious that ambition isn't particularly evil in the FMA-land. Really, Greed is the most blatantly Slytherin of the seven homunculi, and that's why he left.

And while Kimbley is cunning and charismatic, he doesn't seem particularly ambitious.

edited 4th Jun '11 1:48:03 AM by riidenlieko

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#61: Jun 4th 2011 at 6:01:58 AM

Edward is Slytherin, his pride caused him to break a fundamental rule of reality. This informs the rest of the plot. And his pride continues to prove a burden, too.

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#62: Jun 4th 2011 at 6:07:56 PM

I'd say Riza is a toss up between Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw.

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#63: Jun 4th 2011 at 11:16:51 PM

Disgaea time

  • Laharl: Slytherin, with the tiniest twinge of Gryffindor.
  • Etna: Slytheryn. Very, very Slytherin
  • Flonne: Hufflepuff, although she really wants to be a Gryffindor.
  • Captain Gordon, Defender of Earth: Gryffindor.
  • Jennifer: Ravenclaw
  • Adell: Gryffindor
  • Rozalin: Ravenclaw
  • Tink: Hufflepuff for Blue!Tink/Gryffindor for Red!Tink (nobody said Gryffindors had to be heroic)
  • Yukimaru: Hufflepuff
  • Hanako: Ravenclaw
  • Taro: Hufflepuff
  • Mao: Ravenclaw, with some Slytherin thrown in
  • Raspberyl: Ravenclaw
  • Almaz: Hufflepuff trying very hard to be a Gryffindor
  • Sapphire: Gryffindor. A very Ax-Crazy Gryffindor
  • Champloo: Gryffindor with a pinch of Hufflepuff

moonfie Since: Dec, 2009
#64: Jun 5th 2011 at 8:02:15 PM

Stargate SG-1 time woo hoo.

  • Jack O'Neill: Gryffindor for shore.
  • Sam Carter: Ravenclaw
  • Daniel Jackson: Hufflepuff, but with definite Ravenclaw tendencies
  • Teal'c: Gryffindor or perhaps a good Slytherin
  • General Hammond: I see him as a Hufflepuff for some reason, but probably more Gryffindor
  • Cameron Mitchell: So Gryffindor
  • Jonas Quinn: Raaaaavenclaw
  • Vala: Slytherin
  • Kinsey and Maybourne: Very very Slytherin

edited 5th Jun '11 8:02:44 PM by moonfie

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#65: Jun 6th 2011 at 9:31:27 AM

Do you know who this is surprisingly hard to do for? The (many) characters of The Silmarillion. Due to the fact there are at least 100 named characters in those novels I've tried*

to restrict myself.

So, to start off we have the House of Finwe, beginning with Faenor and, in turn, the Feanorions.

  • Feanor is determined, yes, but is also ambitious, cunning, charismatic, and very obviously Slytherin.
    • Maedhros is likewise determined and brave, and likewise charismatic but I'd put him in Hufflepuff, as he is, at the end of the day very loyal and does have a strong work ethic.
    • Maglor, studious and intelligent, also loyal and determined and more diplomatic than his brothers, I'd put him in Ravenclaw in the end.
    • Celegorm is hard because he goes insane near the end, but let's see, he's quick tempered, possibly either blond or judicious, determined, was chivalrous enough before he went mad, but I also cunning, ambitious and charismatic and, does have “pureblood” tendencies but I'd put him in Gryffindor because he, like all the Feanorions, has -100% self-preservation.
    • Caranthir is pretty solidly Gryffindor despite being cunning and in part loyal, though he's not the heroic Gryffindor, more the Romilda Vane with a lot more evil sort of Gryffindor.
    • Curufin, is Slytherin with some Hufflepuff tendencies in that, before going as bat-shit as his brother Celegorm, had a wee Lawful Evil streak in him.
    • Amrod is hard, partially because you don't see much of him. He's not as notably insane as his brother, and is certainly loyal and hard working, and because we know he's a brilliant hunter we can presume he's studious, calm and got a good work ethic. Hufflepuff it is then.
    • Amras, I'm going with the version where he gets burned alive, and again, like his twin, putting him in Hufflepuff.

  • Fingolfin is steadfast, brave and wise, but I'll put him in Gryffindor for the Heroic Sacrifice and the general valour-related tendencies.
    • Fingon is either Gryffindor or Hufflepuff, he checks all the boxes in both, but he feels more like your standard heroic Gryffindor to me.
    • Turgon is loyal, honourable, brave and valorous as most of his siblings, but he's also got a stronger self-preservationist streak than pretty much any of his kin and his extremely cunning and charismatic. I'll put him very solidly under the Heroic tier in Slytherin.
      • Idril is actually more important than her father in a lot of ways, so I can't in good conscious ignore her. She's very much intelligent and, unlike a number of her kin actually does have clarity of mind and good sense, she's brave, determined, polite, if not necessarily chivalrous, charismatic, very loyal, judicious...I'd say Ravenclaw with Gryffindor or Hufflepuff tendencies, or Gryffindor with Ravenclaw tendencies. Having a hard time choosing.
        • Elros is intelligent, brave, determined, loyal and honourable as well as being charismatic, I'll put him Gryffindor because he really does fit in.
        • Elrond likewise intelligent, determined, loyal and honourable he's also very diplomatic and has plenty of good sense and clarity of mind (no matter what movie!Elrond acts like), I'd put him in Ravenclaw with very strong Gryffindor tendencies.
    • Aredhel, proud, willful, stubborn but loyal and brave as any of her brothers, I'd say Aredhel is a fairly hotheaded but not bad sort of Gryffindor.
      • Maeglin gets to play too because he is fairly important, and if I've done this much may as well do more, so let's see. Smart, studious, totally lacking in clarity of mind, ambitious but not notably cunning, reviled by pretty much everyone but his mother so definitely not charismatic, definitely has a sense of self-preservation, does have a work ethic and, if nothing else, determination... I'll put him as a more malicious Luna-type Ravenclaw.
    • Argon suffers the same fate as Amras and Amrod in that he is the fairly under recorded youngest of his siblings. We know he's smart and can safely assume that any Gryffindor personality traits that aren't explicitly in the text are still probably present. Gryffindor with the majority of his siblings.

  • Finarfin is loyal, very goodhearted, honourable and actually has a lot more good sense then his brothers, and like them is charismatic, but he goes in Hufflepuff, without a doubt.
    • Finrod is loyal (x500), hard working, charismatic/diplomatic, intelligent, has very much a clear mind though his good sense did give way to his loyalty (that not being a bad thing), determined and almost as goodhearted as his father and is likewise a Hufflepuff but with strong Ravenclaw tendencies.
    • Angrod has exactly two well known personality traits, he was noble and he had a bit of an unforgiving streak. He's also a warrior, not uncommon at the time but very much requiring bravery, so I'll say Gryffindor.
    • Aegnor, poor dear, is also lacking in the personality department but we do know he's valiant and brave and chivalrous so he's a Gryffindor, far as I can tell.
    • Galadriel is very much like her (favourite) brother, Finrod, and her father in personality but also has the pride, ambition and cunning of her Feanorian kin. I'll put her in Slytherin as another example people who are perfectly heroic and are in the “evil” house.

And I'll cover a few others, including some who aren't important but are my favourites.

  • Gil-Galad is your classic tragic Gryffindor, brave, courageous, determined and has more regard for the lives of others then his own, though he does get charisma, diplomacy and intelligence thrown in there as well.

  • Oropher is brave and determined, no doubt about that, but also cunning, ambitious, charismatic and probably a Slytherin. He doesn't quite qualify as a straight up heroic Slytherin, but he's certainly not evil and in the end did die to protect an entire world. Even if his stubbornness was half the reason his army got slaughtered.
    • Thranduil is poorly represented in fandom, so I'll try my best to be as judicous with him as I tried to be with Maeglin. Thranduil is, we know, determined and intelligent as well as cunning and ambitious. He's king, which implies some sort of diplomatic ability but that's never shown so we can't really count it, and we do know he's brave and presumably judicious because while he comes off as a douche to everyone who isn't an elf from his kingdom, his people do appear to be happy despite having one of the roots of all evil living a few miles south. So I'll have to put him in Slytherin, but again, not an evil Slytherin.

  • Legolas (no, not that one) is a one off character I've included for my own amusement. He's brave, honourable (risking life and limb to save people who aren't even his kin) and determined, and so we'll put him in Gryffindor and call it a day.
  • Ecthelion of the Fountain, brave, courageous, hard working, chivalrous, loyal and doomed. Gryffindor please.
  • Glorfindel (yes, that one) brave, courageous, loyal, intelligent, hard working, determined and doomed-but-saved-on-a-technicality, also a Gryffindor.

And, because I apparently can't actually keep myself in check, and because I can't ignore the humans of the novel, we have some of the various major players from the race of man.

  • Beren is, like a number of folks we've covered, pretty standard as far as Gryffindor goes, but he at least has the added bonus of showing some wit.
    • Luthien (who, okay, doesn't count as human but she's only 1/2 elf* ), who is important in her own right is loyal, intelligent, brave and has plenty of clarity of mind, so I'll say Ravenclaw.
  • Tuor again, like a lot of these first age men, is a Gryffindor, but again he's at least smart about it, enough so that I dare say he and Hermione would get along well enough.
  • Hurin, for all his later tortute induced wretchedness, is certainly a Gryffindor in my books. He stood against impossible odds to try and save an army, showing great bravery and valour, as well as loyalty and determination.
    • Morwen is, like the entire rest of her immediate family, doomed, but unlike her husband and son it did not make her bitter and unlike her daughter she wasn't wimpy. She was, I think, a Gryffindor, being brave and determined beyond belief, but not the hotheaded type we see in even Hermione, but a much more austere version which comes in part from her Ravenclaw tendencies such as intelligence and good sense.
    • Turin, in the end, comes out as a Gryffindor, but he certainly has plenty of cunning and charisma, for all that he's a bit of misanthrope at points, and a lot of honour for an outlaw. Still, doomed hero is almost Gryffindor criteria, so there we have it.
    • Nienor is not, at the end of the day, particularly brave in the face of any of the issues of her life, and while that may be unkind to say I don't see her fitting into Gryffindor. She's fairly intelligent, but I think her main features are loyalty and hard work, so she's one of the wishy-washy Hufflepuffs everyone likes to try and avoid.

I'll stop here, and I'll be amazed if someone actually reads all this, but I will say I think I got 4/5 on the heroic Slytherin test, two of those aren't as classic hero as the requester may have been looking for.

edited 6th Jun '11 9:32:40 AM by AwayLaughing

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#66: Jun 6th 2011 at 9:37:59 AM

I'll accept those since I'm horribly, horribly biased in favour of Tolkien.

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#67: Jun 6th 2011 at 10:27:45 AM

Now I have to wonder how Harry Potter characters would be sorted if Tropers had another go at it.

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#68: Jun 6th 2011 at 10:37:08 AM

I'd've probably kept everyone where they are except put Pettigrew in Slytherin, and do something with the very un-Slytherin Crabbe and Goyle. I honestly have no idea where they would go, though.

Also, I'm convinced Albus Potter is going into Hufflepuff.

edited 6th Jun '11 10:37:33 AM by KnownUnknown

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#69: Jun 6th 2011 at 10:52:26 AM

I may well have considered putting Hermione in Slytherin. Yes, she's very brave and yes, she's a muggle born, but pureblood is only a convention, not an actual standard and she's one of the most ambitious people in the novels, not to mention very cunning. Not to say she doesn't work where she is, but it would be an interesting dynamic to explore in fiction that wasn't a Cannon Sue!Hermione.

Also, I agree that Crabbe and Goyle have got to leave Slytherin. They aren't ambitious, they certainly aren't cunning and they don't, in their one important moment, showcase any sense of self preservation.

edited 7th Jun '11 6:03:33 AM by AwayLaughing

Pulsar Since: Apr, 2015
#70: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:35:47 PM

Where do you put Crabbe and Goyle? They're not smart enough for Ravenclaw, and they don't seem to fit in Gryfindor. Maybe at a stretch you could put them in Hufflepuff.

Edit: I disagree with Hermione in Slytherine, because what ambitions she has are mostly about helping other people, or about gaining more knowledge and skill. The former is more a Gryfindor or Hufflepuff trait, and the latter more a Ravenclaw trait. And since she's a Muggle-born, the hat would have to be really callous or sadistic to put her in Slytherine.

edited 6th Jun '11 12:39:40 PM by Pulsar

AwayLaughing Since: Feb, 2010
#71: Jun 6th 2011 at 12:47:25 PM

Well, so far we've only listed the positives of each house, but what are the negatives we've seen?

  • Gryffindor - impulsive, stubborn, hypocritical, too self-sacrificing
  • Ravenclaw - possibly anti-authoritarian, deceptive, intellectual snobbery
  • Hufflepuff - lack of competitive drive/over competitive, may be dangerously prone to accepting all authority
  • Slytherin - self serving, dishonest, bigoted*

Obviously we need to add others, but some people are given no redeeming qualities in those novels so we must be sure to include their limitations in the sorting.

edit: see, that presumes that ambition only counts as ambition if it's self serving. That is not the case, ambition to help is still ambition in its own right, now what may change is how you go about being ambitious, depending on the house you're placed in, ie lying, cheating and swindling versus self sacrifice, self flagellation and refusing to accept no as an answer.

And the hat's put at least 3 known halfbloods in Slytherin, and really, the best way to break a socially constructed barrier is to simply refuse to let it be in your way. You may get flack for it but someone has to do it, and I'd say Hermione is the perfect candidate. Now, you could argue that a lot of her confidence came from being friends with Harry and Ron, in which case it would be a tad cruel to put her in that situation, but Hermione, even at the beginning, seems to do well in the face of adversity.

edited 6th Jun '11 12:52:50 PM by AwayLaughing

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#72: Jun 6th 2011 at 1:08:46 PM

I seem to recall the hat taking chraracter's wishes into consideration when making a selection. Harry got into Gryffindor because he wanted to be in Gryffindor. Or was it "Anything but Slytherin"? I can't remember. But the hat would have put him in Slytherin were it not for his own expess desire to be somewhere else.

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#73: Jun 6th 2011 at 3:38:11 PM

[up]In the movie at least, Harry just said "Not Slytherin."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFmGNqji4u0
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#74: Jun 6th 2011 at 4:46:06 PM

And the book.

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#75: Jun 6th 2011 at 5:02:02 PM

Now I have to wonder how Harry Potter characters would be sorted if Tropers had another go at it.

I'll play.

Harry: Hufflepuff or Gryffindor, mostly by process of elimination. Despite his excellent track record of getting rid of Dark threats, he's a pretty passive character: he hasn't got much of a work ethic, doesn't fit well into hierarchical organizations or wizarding society, doesn't generally seek problems out unless forced to by circumstances, and isn't particularly bright, ambitious, or cunning. He is very loyal to his friends, has a stubborn streak and a nasty temper, and doesn't have much sense of self-preservation, but none of that is necessarily decisive.

Ron: Hufflepuff. His entire characterization lies in being a good friend.

Hermione: Ravenclaw, obviously. She's very bright, very level-headed, and most importantly very studious, and all are central to her identity. She probably could do well in Slytherin if she set her mind to it — she's subtle enough — but doesn't have the ambition or the need for social acceptance that'd make it attractive to her.

Neville: Gryffindor, although he'd probably get a lot of grief from his classmates until someone brings him out of his shell.

Luna: Ravenclaw still seems like the best match here. Most of her character seems to revolve around the way she understands the world, even if it's a little skewed by the standards of others — a very Ravenclaw trait.

Draco: This is actually a tricky one. He's intellectually lazy and far from brave or studious, but at the same time he's not cunning or ambitious in any deep sense, and isn't nearly as ruthless as he pretends to be. Most of his characterization revolves around pissing off his schoolyard enemies, satisfying whatever whims he has at the moment, and living up to his idea of what the heir to the Malfoy name should act like. I think he might make it into Slytherin on the basis of that being the family tradition (Lucius Malfoy is an excellent fit for Slytherin), but otherwise would probably end up in Gryffindor or Hufflepuff purely by virtue of being even less suited for everywhere else.

Crabbe and Goyle: Hufflepuff. All they've got going for them is loyalty.

Hagrid: Gryffindor. Kindness and courage are his major strengths as a character, and a vast blind spot where danger is concerned is his main weakness.

The Marauders: Mostly Gryffindor from what we've seen, although Lupin seems more the Ravenclaw type and Pettigrew the Hufflepuff. Lily would probably have been a Ravenclaw.

Snape: Ravenclaw. He's not charismatic or ambitious, and while he has some moments of courage and loyalty, his self-image seems to be built around proving to himself that he's smarter and morally purer than everyone else: about as dark-side Ravenclaw as it gets. He's also a talented researcher, proving he's got the chops to back that up in practice.

Dumbledore: Slytherin. His MO is based on manipulation and proxy actors, and he's quite charismatic; he's probably got the most layered agenda of any character in the series; and he's definitely willing to break the rules to get what he wants. He doesn't display much open ambition, but he has amassed a pretty impressive list of titles, and we know he had at least some sympathies for Grindlewald's cause before their falling out.

Voldemort: Slytherin, mostly on the strength of his ambition and ruthlessness. He's about the least subtle or charismatic villain in the series, at least as an adult (younger Tom Riddle is more so), but he knows what he wants and he'll go to some pretty extreme lengths to get it.

edited 6th Jun '11 5:47:14 PM by Nornagest

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