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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#826: Jun 25th 2010 at 10:50:36 AM

One problem with the Scyther/Scizor entry:

The male engages in a courtship dance with the female, in order to There have been isolated yet unproven...

I think the last half of a sentence got bonked in there tongue

Actually, I'll confine all further technical proofreading to PM's for the sake of not cluttering the thread. Asking clarification or other discussions of actual content is still a good idea to leave on the thread, of course.

edited 25th Jun '10 11:03:54 AM by Pykrete

SilentReverence adopting kitteh from 3 tiles right 1 tile up Since: Jan, 2010
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#827: Jun 25th 2010 at 11:01:38 AM

↑Oh, I didn't notice that one, my brain seems to have read that as an If You Know What I Mean and filled the blanks for me... well... um... wink

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Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#828: Jun 25th 2010 at 11:03:44 AM

Right, I added in a Hand Wave for the Magneton weight issue and changed the sunspot bit.

Edit: and now some typos are fixed. Thanks, Pykrete.

edited 25th Jun '10 11:08:46 AM by Gilphon

Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
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#829: Jun 25th 2010 at 2:58:30 PM

I'm thinking that I may be trying to cover too much with those however so in the spirit of having the entry published soon, I'd like to ask for opinion. I want the entry incorporate the three aspects but initially inspect only one of them deeper, whereas the others are mostly informed and will be completed later, maybe next week. If you agree on this, which feature would you like for me to expand upon first?

There is no such thing as too little information. Out goal is Adaptation Expansion, the entries should be the opposite of consise. Draw accurate diagrams of Nido anatomy, the specific chemical structure of their venom, and what they like to eat every tuesday if you have to.

My only concern is that I'm not as dedicated as you into putting detail into my entries.

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#830: Jun 25th 2010 at 3:16:16 PM

It's exactly as Neo Crimson said—more is better, although if you feel the need to do it in Rolling Updates that's fine.

Also, does anyone have any feedback at all for my Rhyhorn entry?

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#831: Jun 25th 2010 at 3:34:19 PM

It's pretty good, and I would never have thought about trainers lunting their Rhydon's horns to use in tournaments, though that would explain why Horn Drill merely KO's instead of turning somethings innards into chunky salsa. Perhaps for Rhyhorn mating habits you could base them on rhinos.

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Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#832: Jun 25th 2010 at 3:36:06 PM

'Thagomizer' is a fantastic word and I thank you for introducing it to me.

Also, I'm not sure if I like Rhyhorn's habitat section. I can't quite reconcile what you wrote there with the way they shown up so often in places like Victory Road.

Pretty good in general, though.

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#833: Jun 25th 2010 at 3:46:13 PM

I made some edits to my page for the Starly line.

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Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
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#834: Jun 25th 2010 at 4:30:23 PM

For the Rhyhorn entry you should mention that before conventional drilling machines were invented, trained Rhydon were used to bore through bedrock in construction and mining operations.

As for habitat I think its reasonable to say that Rhyhorn live in grasslands and mountainous areas. But Rhydon primarily live in caves and other subterranean areas. Rhyhorn close to evolution migrate to these caves and switch their diet from vegetation to subterranean fungus and rock.

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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#835: Jun 25th 2010 at 5:06:39 PM

I love the mention of therapsids in the Rhyhorn entry. Not-quite-mammals, cool.

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#836: Jun 25th 2010 at 7:27:09 PM

Updated. We now have 63 entries and 2 templates. cool

So does anyone particularly desire to write a blurb for the Trope Report, or should I do one?

edited 25th Jun '10 7:27:18 PM by Tangent128

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SilentReverence adopting kitteh from 3 tiles right 1 tile up Since: Jan, 2010
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#837: Jun 25th 2010 at 7:27:48 PM

Draw accurate diagrams of Nido anatomy, the specific chemical structure of their venom, and what they like to eat every tuesday if you have to.
Emphasis mine The composition of the venom, uh? You've given me ideas! surprised I'd guess that chemical compounds in Pokéarth are like ours Only More So — I'll manage to think of something. Going with your suggestion I'll try to check for chemicals that can add "stickyness" to the venom so that it can be passed on by bodily contact.

My only concern is that I'm not as dedicated as you into putting detail into my entries.
Heh... I appreciate it, thanks. But I think it's not much "dedication" that I put, no offense, rather that it's mostly things that I had prepared in advance and thus were more "solid"  *. As for Nidos maybe I said it before already but Nidos are my underdogs for the Fan of Underdog thing. If it were by me I'd keep writing the entire weekend long about them— so long as the internet gains more Nido love. So it may be kinda expected that I gush about them. grin

On to another matters.

@Scyther Entry: a couple of comments.

First, I think about one hundred eggs may be a bit too much. Unless population density for Scyther in the grasslands is very volatile and (maybe) mortality rate of infants is extremely high, I'd guess forest borderlines could be seasonally infested by practising hunters which would be something that wouldn't go unnoticed. Maybe the eating the mate thing counters it a bit, but right now it leaves me puzzled on how would it affect their social structure.

Second, something I missed upon a second reading is the structure and functionality of the wings, and how this changes upon evolution. Inspection of backsprites of Gen3 and Gen4 and of the few good scenes in the anime where Scyther is shown fighting indicate me that Scyther's wing are like those of scarabs (or Heracross) in the sense that a pair of "hard" wings protects a set of winglets. I'd guess the hard ones function as both shield and a sort of helm. After all it makes sense that Scyther being designed for precision and circling attacks, Flash Step and tilt are very important — but with the shape of the arms I'd guess that Scyther's cutting trategies rely on impulse and are thus vulnerable to knock off damage, where the wings could be bent, damaged or otherwise directly reachable by an opponent.

Or maybe I'm extrapolating too much.

After evolving into Scizor, I think there are a couple of 'Dex entries that make reference to the wings becoming harder and being used primarily to dissipate heat. With the blades becoming pincers I think it may make sense that the wings become larger and also seem to be located higher in the body; also the weak point in direct combat may switch from the back (and wings) to the flanks.

About Social Structure, the very act of thinking about that section brings to my mind memories of the time I read Dragonfree's Scyther's Story. I can't comment or suggest without comparing, so...

@Sullen Frog: I somehow missed Rhyhorn entry (and Bagon as well) and those are some of the ones I'm interested in, so let me do a quick reading and I'll get back to you by updating this post if I find something important to comment on and I notice that what I was to suggest (Rhydon't migration pattern) was already taken care of.

EDIT: on a third reading, Rhyhorn's relative sluggishness and their tendency to ram into things suggests me that an important component of their courting would be the search and defense of "dens" close to mineral vens.

[Long post is long]

edited 25th Jun '10 7:37:15 PM by SilentReverence

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#838: Jun 25th 2010 at 9:17:11 PM

Nice Lileep story by the way.

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#839: Jun 26th 2010 at 4:34:25 AM

I'll toss Scholastica a PM for the Trope Report. Up to 131 pokemon so far, assuming I didn't miscount.

edit: does this look good?

Help wanted on the Extended Fanon Pokédex!

Everybody loves Pokémon, or at least used to at some point. Unfortunately, info on the biology and everyday living habits of our favorite critters is either very sparse or grossly inaccurate (Magcargo being 18000° at it's core? Come now, that's hotter than the surface of the sun!). Here at the Extended Fanon Pokédex, our goal is to fill in those gaps and fix those gross inaccuracies using logic, science, and the art of ass pull! And with about 500 pokémon to cover, we need assistance! If you love pokémon, or maybe just have a single favorite pokémon, then come on down, mix ideas, and help contribute! 131 pokémon cataloged and counting!

edited 26th Jun '10 4:53:06 AM by Blissey1

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SullenFrog (Elder Troper) Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#840: Jun 26th 2010 at 5:18:43 AM

I like the add. It's very well written, concise, sure to generate interest, and even if it doesn't incite anyone to actually contribute we'll still get more readers in order to check us out.

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#841: Jun 26th 2010 at 5:24:30 AM

I also like it.

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#842: Jun 26th 2010 at 5:54:08 AM

Looks good. Maybe add one line noting that we are also interested in geography/society articles as well.

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Isotrope Mostly Stable Since: Jun, 2010
Mostly Stable
#843: Jun 26th 2010 at 7:36:22 AM

I wholly support that blurb, and not just because you made reference to the infamous Magcargo entry. ;D

(For the record, Camerupt has the same thing IIRC. Game Freak has zero sense of scale.) I might get cracking on that one once I'm done with Omanyte and Omastar.

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Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#844: Jun 26th 2010 at 8:17:29 AM

I'm considering writing the Tangela entry, but I'm unsure of how to handle the whole 'nobody has seen what it looks like under the vines' issue. I mean, it'd be pretty laughable if nobody in the scientific community had ever tried to move the vines away to see for themselves...

Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#845: Jun 26th 2010 at 8:23:23 AM

You can just throw that part out. Though maybe note that Tangela tend to be averse to exposing their faces, so many trainers never see them.

edited 26th Jun '10 8:24:12 AM by Tangent128

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Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
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#846: Jun 26th 2010 at 8:26:53 AM

Speaking of that what about Digglet? I have a few ideas about that, I think that [DATA EXPUNGED]. And Dugtrio are actually [DATA EXPUNGED].

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#847: Jun 26th 2010 at 8:52:22 AM

Maybe they look something like hairless Furret? I dunno. Annoying thing about this project is that what a Diglett looks like under the ground is a fun mystery out-of-the-universe, but in practice would be answered in 10 seconds.

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CrowT.Robot Trainspotter from Ga-Metru Since: Oct, 2009
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#848: Jun 26th 2010 at 10:24:30 AM

Hey guys, it's Crow checking in. Nice entries, guys! I'll try and get mine up as soon as I can find a decent USB connection... and people are fighting over Bidoof. Crazy. I have Bidoof, Cranidos, Slateport City, and some other random Pokes on the go right now.

edited 26th Jun '10 10:25:07 AM by CrowT.Robot

Formerly known as Crow T. Robot.
SilentReverence adopting kitteh from 3 tiles right 1 tile up Since: Jan, 2010
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#849: Jun 26th 2010 at 10:30:15 AM

I made a correction to the Lileep entry yesterday for some wording issues (tenses and Wailord, mostly). Since the Nidoran entry is taking lots of work, I'll also work alongside on the Hoothoot entry and maybe I can get it ready on Monday.

What will the lucky troper to take the Eevee entry do?

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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#850: Jun 26th 2010 at 10:37:12 AM

The obvious silly way out would be to use the Zalgo text static for Diglett/Dugtrio.


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