Harry Potter

Olivander was kind of an asshole, when you think about it.

Makes you wonder how Squibs back in the day did their business. Assuming they didn't just go live with Muggles and discovered the wonders of privies.

Edited by M84 on Jan 14th 2019 at 3:14:00 AM

Considering how they are treat it, I will said like the rest of muggles.

You gotta wonder if past Squibs or Muggle-borns tried and failed to introduce the wonders of toiletries.

Muggle-born: Okay, so you all just...shit everywhere and use a Vanishing charm to make it go away? That's...that's amazing. Really. Oh, that reminds me. Back when I was a Muggle, we used to use these things called privies and outhouses. Places that people can use to do their business in private without stinking up public areas. Maybe we can try that instead of using magic?

Typical snobbish Pure-blood Wizard and Witch: ...See this is why you Mudbloods don't deserve any respect.

Who did they hire to install all the plumbing in Hogwarts?

I like to imagine the teachers all had to do it.

When bathrooms were designed, Corvinus Gaunt who was a student at the time was somehow able to play a part in it. For some reason. This is how he was able to hide the Chamber of Secrets when the plumbing renovations were being made.

And you know full well they probably made the House Elves do it.

Edited by M84 on Jan 14th 2019 at 1:19:11 AM

Really, the more I think about this, the less sense it makes. Muggles have had latrines for a loooong time. Pretty much the second people stopped being nomadic, they learned to build outhouses. It is not complicated, and even if wizards are too stupid to come up with it on their own, they'd notice muggles doing it and follow suit.

I could see it taking them a while to make the jump from latrines to plumbing because they can just Vanish it, but having everything in a specific location would still be easier and more hygenic.

Sounds legit.

And as I mentioned before, people have had latrines since Neolithic times. People figured out it's best not to shit all over the place over five thousand years ago.

Edited by M84 on Jan 14th 2019 at 1:20:34 AM

I highly suspect it was just a reference to the had hygiene of the past. Like how apparently people used to shit in versaille.

At least then they had the excuse of being outdoors in places where there was limited or no access to public facilities.

This is actually a problem we still face in real life in a lot of cities. When you gotta go, you gotta go.

Edited by M84 on Jan 14th 2019 at 1:22:25 AM

Didn't Dumbledore once mention when he really needed to find a bathroom and the Room of Requirements popped up with a bunch of chamber pots?

Ah, but back in ye olde days people didn't bother with them and just voided themselves in the hallways. Thus there was no pressing need to find a place to do business.

Thus the Room of Requirement wouldn't manifest chamber pots.

Edited by M84 on Jan 14th 2019 at 1:32:45 AM

I think the implication is that they didn't know what a chamber pot is. You can't summon what you are not meant to know. Except Cthulhu.

Edited by Millership on Jan 14th 2019 at 12:05:35 AM

That was in my mind, yes. If they went straight from doing the doo in the doorway to indoor plumbing, why manifest chamber pots?

Because chamber pots are things that can be contained in the Room itself. Plumbing would require modifications to the rest of Hogwarts.

A more modernized Hogwarts would probably switch chamber pots for portable toilets or something.

The Room itself seems to have a mind of its own of sorts. Even if the person specifically looking for a lavatory is unfamiliar with chamber pots — and this is Dumbledore, so I doubt this was the case — the Room itself might know of them. Possibly because it picked up the knowledge from other (maybe Muggle-born) students in the past.

The Room probably would manifest full blown toilets if it could, but that would require plumbing, which would require modifying the pipes in the rest of Hogwarts to work. And that might be beyond the Room's ability.

Edited by M84 on Jan 14th 2019 at 2:33:47 AM

Actually, with what we've seen of the Room, especially in book seven, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was capable of magicking up it's own plumbing.

Plumbing that just kind of... ends, with a Vanishing Charm forcefield to vaporize anything that comes along to that part of the pipe.

Don't drop a ring down there or something...

Or the plumbing ends in the Magical Sewer Room. Imagine a lake-sized pit filled with a thousand years worth of human waste.

They sell it to muggle munitions factories. War profiteering during ww2 massively boosts the Magical economy.

@ Galadriel: Qin Shi Huangdi couldn't have known about horcruxes, because based off the shit he did in real life he'd make more of them than Voldemort. At least, we can hope he didn't

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Jan 15th 2019 at 5:18:04 AM

I am new to Harry Potter. So humor me, you guys. But anyway, I read the books fairly recently, about a year or so back, and I wasn't especially impressed with it but I did find it interesting, funny and tense. I had previously only seen one or two of the movies. I kind of sped through it.

The big thing that struck out was the portrayal of house-elves and the whole Happiness in Slavery thing. It's a good thing the movies downplayed that heavily. I just find it weird why Harry Potter is seen as this saintly character or all-around hero in pop cultru when the book character is a slaveowner by the end of the series? I mean it's kind of astonishing how much that is normalized at the end of the story.

Him not freeing Kreacher is considered a black mark by most of the fandom based on what I've encountered.

And I'm guessing the "saintly" view of Harry might be more movie based or more about how he forgave certain individuals in the end. I can understand why he ultimately choose not to hold grudges, but it felt like it came too easily.

Well it's just that HP and its symbolism has been adopted by a lot of Millennials and Gen-Z people as this fight against tyranny and having progressive social values and so on. I don't know if it's the movies that did it since the books are famous best-sellers and widely read and so on. It's just weird that not enough has been don to call this bit of stuff to at least get Rowling to do a twitter-retcon about "of course Harry freed Kreacher the day after Voldemort died" or something like that.