Kingdom Hearts

Ah, makes sense. Like Xehanort's plans, it gives Nomura a back-up plot twist down the road if he wanted it. The Foretellers aren't too hidden to raise eyebrows like Luxu and Mo M, so if they are original faces, it could be played off by the developers as just how they dressed for their role and there was never a mystery element to it. Mom and Luxu are harder to excuse and strongly imply they have a recognizable face (Luxu's being hidden is a bit pointless as that's not his current face thanks to the body jumping, unless something happened to his original body they want to keep hidden).

I figured at the time that the Foretellers were the past lives of some of the current group, like Aced and Invi for Terra and Aqua. But since they latter appear in the present, I thought it jossed my theory.

Edited by ObligatorySarcasm on Apr 5th 2024 at 11:45:10 AM

Do you think the reason why the Disney worlds are more empty compared with the movies is because they didn't have the time or energy to make enough NPCs, not even 2D models? Like how in "Birth by Sleep" in one cutscene for Olympus Coliseum the crowd was cheering for one of the characters in the arena, despite there being literally no one in the stands? Or when the spell is broken in the Beast's Castle story in "Union X" none of the transformed objects are shown in human form, not even painted in the background when Belle and the human prince danced?

Edited by wooden-ladybug93 on Apr 8th 2024 at 10:44:41 AM

Its not time or energy,its most likely boils to $

Also how does it cost money to go onto a computer and make a model? (explain like I'm five, I don't own a computer so I assume people can make stuff on things like Blender or SFM for free)

Edited by wooden-ladybug93 on Apr 8th 2024 at 10:51:15 AM

Well you see the person making the model is an employee and they have to be paid for their work

Course, I haven't worked since the pandemic started.

If Disney and Square of all people don't have money to pay employees, then who has it?

Unlike the other Keyblade wielders, my Kingdom Hearts 'sona wouldn't have anything hugely tragic happen to him, similar to Mickey.

Nintendo: "Getting Sora into Smash was a massively high price for the company."

Fans: "Oh, so Square charged you alot of money?"

Nintendo: "No."

It is kind of weird that the same company who makes Final Fantasy as ludicrously detailed as those games are, but that same company won't shell out more for Kingdom Hearts.

Also this is Japanese game development. Stop putting your American concepts of needing to be paid for work on Japanese game developers.

Well, they’ve started putting in more NP Cs, so I’d say this is an issue that’s steadily getting addressed.

Before III, I guess it wasn’t as big a priority for them.

There's also the fact that each world has its own unique aesthetic, and so creating NP Cs efficiently is difficult since it's really difficult to make one guy fit in with even 2 worlds, yet alone like half of them, and at that point it's really not efficient to bother making those NP Cs.

Sora and gang are an exception partially because the concept requires them visiting these areas but also because they're explicitly outsiders who aren't native to these worlds, and an out of place appearance is a good method for visually reinforcing that fact to us, the audience (also because otherwise they'd have to make unique variations of the SDG models for every single world instead of a small handful of the most extreme outliers).

KH 3, meanwhile, has the raw budget due to being a AAA 8th gen console instead of a 6th gen console or 7th gen handheld.

So what do you think the Mo Ms name is, when Xehanort hears it it is specifically cut out of the dialogue.

Probably Aku.

Theme Naming dictates its probably derived Superbia, plus Super is written on his box.

With the theme naming, someone connected to the Foretellers has to have a name connected to Pride, the only sin not officially accounted for, so people theorize it's Mo M's name since of that cast, he would be the seventh person. So that would be Superbia. But the other names are shortened to 3 to 4 letters if possible (can't really shorten Ira further), so if this is his name then it's some short form, like Supe, Erbi, Bia, etc. But then maybe also it's rearranged to make it harder to guess, like Epus.

Or his name is Carl, whichever.

Now, the funny/ironic thing is if the Darknesses in the Foretellers achieve physical forms like Vanitas, and those separate entities get names based off the Seven Heavenly Virtues.

Man, I cannot get the idea that Master of Masters shares a lot of similarities with the Kwisatz Haderachs of the Dune books, Paul and Leto II Atriedes, out of my head.

A powerful prophet who finds himself locked in a path that involves a lot of manipulation, bloodshed, and destruction due to his prescience, but nonetheless commits to it because he genuinely believes it's the only way to save everything.

The Master of Masters being the most powerful Keyblade Master alive arguably makes him the closest thing to a God Emperor in the KH verse too.

Edited by M84 on Apr 9th 2024 at 11:40:48 PM

People also theorize that Demyx is the Mo M, the only original Organization member whose Somebody has not been revealed as in any degree (assuming Luxord is the driver for Yozora). He also has similar mannerisms to Mo M and also tries to stay out of the way or getting involved, which was what Mo M to Luxu to do.

His name doesn't have many options to rearrange. D, E, M and Y. Unless they pull an unorthodox arrangement like No I for Xion.

Note that when Demyx drops the goofy act in KH II, he's a really challenging boss fight.

Yeah but its because he has a weird Instant-Win Condition rather then actually being difficult to fight.

I'd say that, in an actual fight, he is at least more challenging than most other bosses up to that point, with only the Absent Silhouettes being harder. He goes into revenge state really fast and can hit you from just about anywhere on the battlefield. He can even chain his DM combo together twice, which is almost certainly death.

Edited by TerraCondor on Apr 10th 2024 at 1:56:35 AM

Demyx offers you the first real taste of how challenging Organization XIII boss fights are in the game when you're not playing a superpowered Nobody dual wielding two powerful Keyblades.

Dance water, dance.

Knowing Nomura, if MoM's name turn out to be Superbia, he'll spell it Xuperbia.

I dunno, the "X" naming for Organization XIII was because of their connection to Xehanort. Most of the Foretellers don't have an X in their names.