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Kiobi20 Since: Sep, 2016
#143876: Feb 25th 2024 at 11:02:04 AM

you know what would be nice, a world based of on the hawaii of lilo and stich

TerraCondor Since: Dec, 2022
#143877: Feb 25th 2024 at 11:06:46 AM

From what I understand, Japan doesn't care much for Lilo.

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Kiobi20 Since: Sep, 2016
#143879: Feb 25th 2024 at 11:07:38 AM

[up][up] maybe not but they do love stich and I'm sure they would be on board for an excuse to use the character again.

Edited by Kiobi20 on Feb 25th 2024 at 11:08:00 AM

wooden-ladybug93 Half-Kitsune from San Fransokyo (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Cigarettes and Valentines
Half-Kitsune
#143880: Feb 25th 2024 at 11:10:50 AM

How come Mickey doesn't have as much horrible stuff happen to him like the other Keyblade users, who either get possessed, fall into a coma, get trapped in another world for a decade, etc.

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#143881: Feb 25th 2024 at 11:11:35 AM

because Disney would not approve of that

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wooden-ladybug93 Half-Kitsune from San Fransokyo (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Cigarettes and Valentines
Half-Kitsune
#143882: Feb 25th 2024 at 11:12:49 AM

Also here's my Union X self.

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BigBadShadow25 Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#143883: Feb 25th 2024 at 11:13:37 AM

[up]Magnificent.

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wooden-ladybug93 Half-Kitsune from San Fransokyo (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Cigarettes and Valentines
Half-Kitsune
#143884: Feb 25th 2024 at 11:15:00 AM

Thanks, wish the game had a green color for the tail AND would let me have two more, then it'd be closer to my 'sona.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#143885: Feb 25th 2024 at 11:15:45 AM

From what I understand, Japan doesn't care much for Lilo.

As I understand it, she's not in the Stich anime at all right?

I think she's replaced by a young Japanese girl. It may just be Creator Provincialism at work, but do we know why they don't seem to care for lilo?

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Smoker130 Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143886: Feb 25th 2024 at 11:22:43 AM

From what little I know, Japanese audience doesn't hate Lilo either. I assume the anime just use a Japanese character because it's easier for them to write and closer to home for it's target audience.

KH being aimed at a international market in the first place, and using version based on the movies would probably use Hawaii if they wanted to bring back Stitch and not have a level set in space like in BBS.

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
Like reflections in the glass!
#143887: Feb 25th 2024 at 11:45:35 AM

The replacement is Hokaiiden to be specific /nerd

Stitch and Ai also went with a different kid. A Chinese girl named...well guess.

Then there is Stitch and the Samurai and ofc Stitch has an original plot in BBS that doesn't touch Hawaii and establishes a bond with TAV that probably fed into one with Sora come later chronological appearances via having Ventus inside him.

IIRC it was at least rumored that Lilo was to shall we say Bratty for Asian peoples' taste. If that is true, that might be the underlying motive (and explain her characterization in the anime)

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Feb 25th 2024 at 11:48:01 AM

TomWithoutJerry Since: Dec, 2023
#143888: Feb 25th 2024 at 12:22:25 PM

I doubt it's because she's bratty. Anime are full of bratty characters who are popular.

I think it's most a matter of Japan not wanting to deal with the Hawaiian setting, and Lilo is too tied into that setting so she goes with it. Stitch himself is pretty easy to implant into almost any other setting.

TerraCondor Since: Dec, 2022
#143889: Feb 25th 2024 at 12:46:50 PM

There is an episode of the anime where an older Lilo shows up to reunite with Stitch.

MarkIV Alchemist from Lancashire best shire Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
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#143890: Feb 25th 2024 at 2:40:23 PM

Could just use Destiny Islands as a location for Lilo and Stitch, no?

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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#143891: Feb 25th 2024 at 3:47:13 PM

That would come with its own set of worms. (In fact I'm pretty sure the islander setup for Sora is prolly a factor in why Lilo was excluded in KH).

  • for one replacing Hawaii with unlocatable islands that is only vaguely polynesian is a representational can of worms
  • outside of that. The archipelago itself is underused, even in the first game only two of the islands were used at most and I don't think Square is keen on expanding the islands to an expanded playable level right now (especially since it is likely the endpoint for Sora, Riku and Kairi when all is set and done possibly decades form now).
  • There is also the matter of Sora's Call to Adventure being a localized apocalypse on said set of islands. With the subsequent Fridge Horror that would taint not only her appearance there ("You mean to say that a 5 year old girl was implied to had effectly been killed in KH 1?") but also Stitch's appearance in KH 2 Hollow Bastion ("Where was Lilo during that time?") unless it was established that they moved there very recently (not out of the question but still dependent on Square's willingness to make DH playable. also keep in mind that there was only a couple of years between 1 and 3)

Also it would screw with potential adaptations of the movies FWIW (That aside, Stitch the Movie and Leroy and Stitch have next to nil chances, so its mainly the original and Stitch has a Glitch that have any shot here)

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Feb 25th 2024 at 3:48:42 AM

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#143892: Feb 25th 2024 at 4:01:16 PM

I find it funny Sora's has this whole unexplored backstory that's been a thing since Kingdom hearts 1

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wooden-ladybug93 Half-Kitsune from San Fransokyo (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Cigarettes and Valentines
Half-Kitsune
#143893: Feb 25th 2024 at 4:06:54 PM

Is Sora’s mom dead or…?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#143894: Feb 25th 2024 at 4:18:03 PM

We don't know,we know she existed because we heard her voice though

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. Since: Nov, 2010
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#143895: Feb 26th 2024 at 7:48:56 AM

I am surprised that Sora never wonders how his Mom, Tidus, Wakka, Selphie and the rest of the Destiny Islanders are doing.

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MarkIV Alchemist from Lancashire best shire Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
Alchemist
#143896: Feb 26th 2024 at 11:24:51 AM

It is kinda weird how the families aren't involved in the Gummiphone network.

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ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#143897: Feb 26th 2024 at 11:39:44 AM

I think it's time to make it a playable world again, considering the extra bits of plot importance the world has gotten through out the later games.

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TomWithoutJerry Since: Dec, 2023
#143898: Feb 26th 2024 at 3:16:04 PM

The 'transported to another world' genre tends to ignore the family the leads left behind, or handwave that they were jerks, or that the protagonist didn't have any.

So I used to crack that Japan's fondest wish is to never see their relatives again.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#143899: Feb 26th 2024 at 6:23:18 PM

And then when you combine that with the Disney Law of Dead Parents, it's honestly shocking Sora's mom was even allowed to exist as much as she does.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#143900: Feb 27th 2024 at 8:09:50 AM

I like to imagine Sora's mother and father are alive and both wondering what the heck Sora is

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