Unofficial Official Mega Man Thread

Ah, so it wasn't just me who had all sorts of problems with Copy X. What kind of troper's idea was it to list him as an Anti-Climax Boss?

"Well, your Bassnium reactor doesn't need to be put into power saving mode soooooo, dont forget to water my cactus."

Bass is an interesting character. I wish we had more media depicting the classic games outside of the terrible western cartoons. The manga were fun, but only go so far.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Feb 26th 2020 at 6:21:53 AM

I'm sad that Archie Mega Man didn't last the many many years to get to the Mega Man 7 era.

Archie Mega Man was so good. It barely even scratched the surface, too.

It was just about to get to Mega Man 4’s story

Kalinka has been locked in Wily’s basement for years because of tethercat

With how philosophical the classic era was in the comics, one wonders how Ian Flynn would have handled the Zero and ZX era.

It would have been awesome.

Random thought, but Mega Man ZX is the closest we will ever get to a canon Protomen story.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 26th 2020 at 5:53:24 AM

is just me or it seen protoman is just....there, like a less intersting version of zero?.

There's a reason why the Red Guy archetype borrow more from Zero than Protoman.

Protoman is still one of the more interesting cast members, which isn't saying much considering the Classic series.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Feb 26th 2020 at 11:04:08 AM

Proto Man is great in the comics though.

Besides, by 8 bit standards, Proto Man has had a lot defining characteristics, mysteriousness, friend or foe, cool whistle, sibling connection to our hero, and constant at the last second rescues.

There's also his damaged power core he refuses to let Dr. Light repair...

You're not entirely wrong.

Like a lot of the Classic series Proto Man's character has been spinning his wheels for a while. Except he's paused around about Mega Man 3 when he first appeared.

He's the aloof big brother figure who shows up to help and slash or bully his brother. But he has an exploding heart of gold and will be against evil things like identity theft or kidnapping children.

He's got this thing where his reactor is going to explode or something and rather than get it fixed he's going to be his own man and explode his own man on his own terms. And where he seems to have free will since he flipped the bird to his own creator.

That seems like a lot of stuff but mostly he's show up and help or bully his brother. And even then generally only the former. Do you know what you have to go through to get him to beat you up in Mega Man 7? Its a lot!

Zero has character beats and arcs and people he cares about and his relationship with X gets spelled out and changes.

He starts off as this cool older friend to look up to and then by the end of the game you surpass him. And then he has this mystery plot about how he was built by Wily and he and X are destined to fight and it turns out that he inadvertently caused the Maverick virus and created Maverick Sigma and he becomes cold due to losing too many people what is he fighting forr and so on and so on.

And none of this is that deep either really. But there's more stuff and he does different stuff instead of just doing the same thing.

Of course, that's in the games. The Archie comics version of Proto Man is a lot more interesting.

Edit: There needs to be an official game with Roll as a playable character so we can see how Proto Man interacts with her. That's a big ol' blank.

Edited by Bocaj on Feb 26th 2020 at 2:08:56 PM

Zero was based on Proto Man according to the X1 notes. Would that make them cousins? XD

REALLY makes you wonder how the Archie comics would have handled our hero Zero.

I bet he would have somehow worked with Awakened Zero and fit him into the canon.

Pretty sure, Proto Man started the trend of Red characters being associated with the villains.

Even Harp Note from Star Force is more of a Red than pink. And she started as an antagonist, and worked for Vega.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 26th 2020 at 11:12:45 AM

Look, we need to never ever get into how robot familial relationships work.

Because otherwise X spends his entire series killing his insane children. And that's even more of a bummer than it already is.

Personally, i go with Creator= Parent and design similarity = siblings. Like Auto is never referred to as a Light sibling. Then again, no one knows where Auto came from.

Like sure, X may have indirectly created the Reploid race, but no one calls him dad. The Hunters in the OVA just treat him as another hunter but one with wussy feelings. Except Zero.

The Reploids have their AI's versatility and free will from X's AI design. But not like Reploid DNA or whatever. Flame Mammoth for example, can't be considered based on X's design. And it's stated that no one could fully understand how X's body worked, just how to replicate the free will.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 26th 2020 at 11:17:23 AM

Sudently him going pacifist and them insane in zero games sound rational....

and having see the battle network, protoman there just really look like zero, at least for me.

Yeah, Protoman. EXE is totally Zero.

Look at that fabulous hair.

Proto Man is one of, if not the, most complex Classic Mega Man characters regardless of where you find him. Nearly every adaptation has varying reasons for Protoman falling in with Wily—he could be reprogrammed or rebuilt, he could join voluntarily, he could have a falling out with Light, etc. Because of the rocky relationship with his creator, he's got a shaky relationship with his siblings, and his pride and power make him a worthy rival to Bass, too.

He treats Wily differently as well—compare his MM 10 ending to Mega's and Bass's. He's the only one to realize Wily just has a plain ol' fever as opposed to Roboenza, and even considers just LEAVING him there and presumably sparing the world the trouble.

He also acts as a crux for other characters to build off of—does Light want him home for good or is he willing to let him go? Does Mega want to redeem him, bond with him, and how does Roll feel about him? Does Wily see him as a pawn or a force to be reckoned with, or both? In MM 4 Wily rages that Proto betrayed him and sets out to frame him in 5 presumably cause of that.

I find Ruby-Spears' Proto Man interesting too because of his Blood Knight tendencies; in the bad future he didn't want to finish conquering the world because there'd be no human uprising to crush, but also didn't want Wily to kill Mega Man with a bomb cause he wanted to fight him personally.

Megamix Proto is pretty deep too (and he counts on everyone expecting him to do the worst).

Edited by lalalei2001 on Feb 26th 2020 at 11:18:49 AM

To be more clear, protoman exe look like a combination of Zero usual trait(aloof, cold, use swords even protoman dosent, seen to sort disike X), with the sender look of zero series look.

Also im looking the scene were pro virus sigma fight zero and....damn, zero is complete badass by stoping sigma without a sword and.....he is a sadistic sonofbitch, you can see omega being zero manifest.

I like the idea sigma torn evil for zero while zero turn good after that battle is a good swich reversal and I wonder if zero feel some sort of guilt over that.

Protoman.EXE doesn't really hold my attention, at least in the games (I never saw the anime). He doesn't connect with Lan or Megaman aside from fighting them, and the aloof role is mostly taken by his operator Chaud.

None of the reploids have any of the kind of respect for X that they should, either for him being the progenitor of their entire race or him having personally turned many many many of the most cutting edge war machines into scrap.

But, no, there's always people deciding 'actually i bet he sucks despite that mountain of corpses'

Frost Walrus calls him a kid! That makes no sense! Your brain is based on his brain! He is older than you and has killed many ice mammals! Why are Mavericks (and whatever category Repliforce occupies) so stupid!

Edited by Bocaj on Feb 26th 2020 at 2:35:20 PM

I love that Axle the red knows about Zero's history with the repliforce but has no idea who X is.

Maybe X just likes to stay out of the spot light. I'd bet he considers Light or Cain to be the true fathers of the Reploid race.

I guess most reploids respect X, the same way most Iphone/windows/whatever users respect the ENIAC. They see him as obsolete. As i recall, it was Cain specifically who had been able to recreate X's free will Matrix, mass produce it and the reploids.

Like X had nothing to do with the creation of reploids personally, he was the template, not the creator. I'm not even sure if X has any science skills. You would think Light would program advanced intelligence into him, and teach X how to build his own armor or to work on a anti Maverick virus program. That X7 really should have done for his character. Hell, Neo Arcadia had to have super intelligent children to build reploids. Can reploids even build other reploids? Is this why Gate's research and creations were rejected?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 26th 2020 at 11:49:08 AM

Suicidal Overconfidence at its best

Proto Man is basically an unintended Reploid...maybe. He's can break Asimov's 2nd and 3rd laws, but we don't know if he doesn't try to kill Dr Wily because the 1st law still applies or he just doesn't want to.

Maybe X was based on Proto Man's A.I?

Now that you mention it Gate is like one of the few people who respects that for someone damn reason X and Zero are still way more advanced than anything else

He’s all creepy scientist “I want to study your body” about it though