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#1: Feb 1st 2010 at 8:19:52 PM

The entire plot of The Incredibles in the present day was a Xanatos Gambit by Syndrome to show the world that superheroes were still needed, by creating a super-threat and calling the Incredibles into action. The "dead" heroes were paid off by Syndrome to fake their deaths.

Hey, it's not more convoluted than the Joker's plan in The Dark Knight.

Discuss.

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#2: Feb 2nd 2010 at 9:13:14 PM

Heroes don't blow up planes with children on board. Unless the children are seriously fucking evil.

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#3: Feb 2nd 2010 at 9:16:26 PM

Which Kind of Hero? Byronic Heroes do that for lunch.

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#4: Feb 2nd 2010 at 9:19:03 PM

Well, isn't the plot of The Incredibles a family-friendly version of Watchmen? tongue

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#5: Feb 2nd 2010 at 9:23:27 PM

Rephrasing that: heroes don't blow up planes specifically to kill children.

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#6: Feb 3rd 2010 at 8:31:25 AM

^ He didn't. He planned for them to stow away, and he planned for the family to escape. It was all according to plan. Again, no more complex nor reliant on complete coincidence than The Joker's plan in The Dark Knight. And hero doesn't necessarily mean sane.

edited 3rd Feb '10 8:33:07 AM by Ronnie

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#7: Feb 3rd 2010 at 1:10:07 PM

So he invented a mind-control ray? 'Cause he's clearly not well-versed enough in human interractions to know Mirage'd be pissed he was going to let her get crushed (don't tell me he planned for that, he had the 'what the hell did I just miss' expression on his face when she snapped at him, and she'd already walked away by that point, so it wasn't for her benefit).

And if he planned for them all to leave, wouldn't he have had one of his henchmen snatch Jack-Jack earlier?

And where did Gazerbeam's skeleton come from?

edited 3rd Feb '10 1:12:30 PM by FurikoMaru

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#8: Feb 4th 2010 at 9:51:39 AM

whoops surprised

edited 4th Feb '10 9:52:10 AM by Jimbobbowilly

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#9: Aug 5th 2010 at 2:55:01 PM

But heroes never die in Disney films! Either Syndrome was a villain, or he didn't die.

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#10: Nov 22nd 2010 at 9:58:18 AM

Stratogale died the same way... although, they never said she died... And I have seen a video where a guy meets the same fate and survives.

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#11: Nov 24th 2010 at 3:41:32 PM

Maybe the "Heroes never die in Disney Films" only applies to main characters?

Or maybe I was really, really stupid when I was younger.

edited 24th Nov '10 3:51:38 PM by AlirozTheConfused

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#13: Nov 26th 2010 at 12:04:14 PM

Nah, they die in Pixar. Remember Coral? Or Ellie? Not to mention, the way half the old Toy Story cast was sold in 3 wasn't much better.

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#14: Feb 23rd 2022 at 11:44:48 AM

I get what youre going for, but it does not apply here

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#15: May 25th 2022 at 12:10:09 AM

If that was the case, he would have stopped at them defeating the robot, or making it so that it was only undefeatable by the military/police, rather than having to go through a lot of superheroes, so that only he could stop it.

Not much point kidnapping their baby once his plans had been foiled, since that wouldn't do anything when it came to spurring other superheroes into action.

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