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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#53976: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:55:59 PM

Huh what happened?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#53978: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:59:14 PM

No not that.

One of the new endings is Catherine going back in time to make everyone's lives better...which includes having Erica never transitioning at all.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#53979: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:59:21 PM

edit : oh shit.

Edited by Yumil on Feb 15th 2019 at 5:59:37 PM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#53980: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:59:31 PM

[up][up] Oh dear sweet unmerciful & unholy Lord & Jesus. surprised

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 15th 2019 at 9:00:39 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#53981: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:00:22 PM

edit : dammit

Edited by Yumil on Feb 15th 2019 at 6:00:34 PM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#53982: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:01:14 PM

It's pretty damn disgusting and probably ensured I won't be buying anymore Atlus products for a while.

This song needs more love.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#53983: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:03:39 PM

Time to get off the internet for a while. Deuces.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#53984: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:04:14 PM

I've heard it often speculated that Hashino may have some... issues with the LGBT community, given that Catherina and all three Personas he worked on have at least one unflattering depiction of them. Then again, there is the magnificent Lala-sama.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#53985: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:04:32 PM

[up][up] Another reason to get off the internet really.

WILL THE CONTROVERSIES NEVER END?!?!?!

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 15th 2019 at 9:04:43 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#53986: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:05:53 PM

Does Erica for some reason be interested in girls as a result? Because Ill definitely agree thats a yikes.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#53987: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:22:57 PM

Yeah, that's...yikes. Super yikes.

Actually, how did you guys find out about this, anyway?

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Feb 15th 2019 at 12:23:13 PM

Oh God! Natural light!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#53988: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:23:16 PM

Where you find out about everything...Twitter

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#53989: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:24:39 PM

What happens is that it's revealed Erica is actually a gay man rather than a trans woman, and Catherine stops her from transitioning in the "better" timeline.

It's basically a loathsome as it sounds.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53990: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:26:05 PM

...

<Face Palm>

It's 2019.

20 fucking 19 Atlus!

Get your shit together!

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#53991: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:29:57 PM

It honestly horribly hilarious how out of touch they are.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#53992: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:31:57 PM

This kind of hopecrushing is not what I expected when I opened this topic.

Jesus fucking christ.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#53993: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:32:28 PM

Honestly LGBT depictions in Japanese media seem like they've gone backwards from the '90s, when mainstream stuff like Sailor Moon and Evangelion had sympathetic, non-stereotypical gay characters.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Feb 15th 2019 at 11:33:00 AM

deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#53994: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:34:40 PM

Was bad enough when it was just 'Gay is funny'.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#53995: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:34:49 PM

A damn shame, I was actually interested in Catherine too.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#53996: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:37:22 PM

[up][up][up]Even then, there was just a very popular anime with a positive portrayal of a trans girl last season.

This shit is getting outdated even by Japanese standards.

Edited by LordVatek on Feb 15th 2019 at 12:40:56 PM

This song needs more love.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#53997: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:39:20 PM

There was also Bloom Into You, which had a pretty good portrayal of exploring same-sex relationships.

Really, it just kind of flip flops.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#53998: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:41:02 PM

Erica wasn't a saint in their portrayal as a trans character honestly. She's portrayed as manipulating a boy into having sex and her friends don't tell him a thing, and she aggresively comes on to him like pinching his butt after he makes clear he isn't interested anymore after that. Shame too cause I like her otherwise. Only the boss was interested and he's a horndog.

That said, what they seem to be doing is saying Erica still identified as a man and thats why she was in the Nightmare with the other men in the original game. Since no other trans or homosexual character was depicted there in the original.

But no matter how you handled that fact, everyone loses. The original game shot itself in the foot and the solution Fullbody came to was "maybe we should push the bullet out by shoving it in deeper till it falls out the other side!"

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 15th 2019 at 9:42:19 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#53999: Feb 15th 2019 at 9:47:50 PM

So turns out I was mistaken on something. Erica does not transition in the new timeline, but does not reveal themselves to be a gay male.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#54000: Feb 15th 2019 at 10:53:30 PM

Yeah it's very important to remember that Atlus does not represent the entirety of Japan.

She's portrayed as manipulating a boy into having sex and her friends don't tell him a thing

This is a pretty transphobic mindset to have.


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