The thing is that you won't refuse to play the game, hence why it's a perfect loop and why Paradox Space works at all.
It isn't that you can't refuse, but the personality of the person and the situation that they're in straight up won't put them in a situation where they can't create themselves.
yeah that
edited 1st Apr '16 10:26:11 AM by EpicBleye
"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-MaeOk back to the original point.
Hussie will send the disc to a select few players.
And you can be damn sure they will play it. Why is that, I won't argue, that was never my point.
I remember that year when LE killed Hussie on April 1, and I think that was perfect. Because "Haha, one of the characters just killed the author of the comic" is exactly the sort of joke update you'd expect to see on April Fools Day. (In fact, I recall The Adventures Of Dr Mc Ninja doing that same joke, very early in its existence.) But in Homestuck, that actually happened in canon. So the real joke was that Hussie made us all question whether it was real or not.
Making a choice between death and something else isn't a real choice, because you're essentially being strongarmed into something you would not normally do without the death part.
Firstly, while obviously a choice made under coercion, threat, or duress is, well, a choice made under coercion, threat, or duress, it's not a false choice? I know what you mean, I just, don't agree that it makes something no longer a real choice? Just, a different one, which is also terrible.
"Do X or Y" and "Do X or Y, and if Y get crushed by space rocks" are distinct choices.
But, firstly, Paradox Space doesn't strongarm people like that,
And second, you can choose to die.
That's like, a thing. That people have done. Both in the comic and real life.
Why's everyone ignoring that part?
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.Hobsons Choice, basically?
EDIT: I could've sworn we had a page for that, but I guess not.
edited 1st Apr '16 11:03:32 AM by JapaneseTeeth
Reaction Image RepositoryThanks to yesterday's earlier update I now find myself spamming F5 for the whole afternoon.
@Jteeth: Someone is trying to make a page for Hobsons Choice, but its path through YKTTW has been slow as molasses.
We do have Leonine Contract though, which is similar.
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."Me too. Hussie's unpredictability will kill our keyboards.
I just click the refresh button. Over and over and over....
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas EdisonI can see why people have got problems with Earthbound Beginnings. The combat is unintuitive (and bad at times, when you fight multiple enemies, and target one, even if it dies, the rest of your party attack it's empty space rather than anybody else), and when you get items the game doesn't automatically tell you how they work (you gotta open up inventory to check), and because I missed an important item, I have to backtrack for a good chunk of the game. There's a lot of tedious grinding, even with the easy ring, and the lack of a map makes things even more confusing. Bleh.
edited 1st Apr '16 12:54:28 PM by DrPsyche
I was spoiled by the early upd8 yesterday I hate waiting
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas EdisonLol literally 10 minutes after I post that I don't like waiting for updates.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas EdisonThis is going to end horribly.
EDIT: Oh hai Hussie.
edited 1st Apr '16 1:03:18 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.Oh shit.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Aight, who's gonna double-, triple-, infinituple-die this time?
Somebody's getting fucked....
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas EdisonI assume the scenes with Caliborn are of when he fought his Denizen to attain the power to become LE, and not some later battle where Yaldabaoth is alive again.
edited 1st Apr '16 1:06:12 PM by DrPsyche
Yeah, that was definitely Yaldabaoth.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas EdisonAh, I see, fixed it.
Also, I can see Hussie.
Oh my helldamned god.
ENGLISH ARRIVED.
And he's gonna kill the ghosts. They don't stand a chance. By the way, he really looks like an angry hairless green gorilla. Just don't kill Karkat and Meenah.
Also tiny creepy Hussie behind Vriska. Maybe he's gonna fight English? That'd be awesome.
Also Caliborn got to the Choice, apparently.
I wasn't even refreshing the page repeatedly or anything.
Just kinda, oh hey there it is.
We knew that already!! Wait, 'to'. Carry on.
edited 1st Apr '16 1:09:20 PM by RaichuKFM
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.
There's nothing about being born as a Paradox Clone in a Session that mandates you actually play in that Session.
But I'll address the root of your problem: If there was someone who would never choose to play SBURB, they would not be in a loop involving them playing SBURB; if there was someone in a loop involving them playing SBURB, they wouldn't be one who would never play SBURB.
A time loop never exists, such that it would mandate a person making a choice they would never make;
Reality does not sum to incoherence.
Further, you see a choice between death and a second course of action, and assume that there is no real choice there. You are wrong.
There is a choice there,
Even if you were someone who would always choose the second, or someone who would always choose the first, you are freely choosing.
And ultimately, everyone is either one, or the other.
This limitation is not due to the content of the choice, but the nature of choosing.
You will always do only what you would ever do, you would only ever do what you would always do; that's simply the nature of being you.
That is why there is only ever one "real" choice; it's the choice you would make.
Anyone that would make a choice other than the one you would make, isn't you, inherently, manifestly.
Some choices are easier to decide than others, but, ultimately, the one you decide is the one you were always going to make.
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.