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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#186801: Oct 21st 2021 at 3:21:16 AM

Difficulty modes is not something that should be a gimmick. Add them as a standard feature, and the choice of swapping them on the fly.

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#186802: Oct 21st 2021 at 4:08:44 AM

Granted, making a proper challenge mode for Pokemon would probably involve changing basically all the teams and movepools used by the AI. Or at least the Gyms/Evil Team/Rival/E4/Champion teams.

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#186803: Oct 21st 2021 at 4:12:56 AM

Yeah, that's what BW 2 did. It was great.

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#186804: Oct 21st 2021 at 4:14:28 AM

Game balance in JRPG's tends to really come down to bosses just having a larger health pool than normal and just beating on it until it dies, unless there's a gimmick involved.

Not to discredit people's complaints or anything, but I'm damn sure this difficulty issue is a fandom specific one, and as mentioned, its not really something anyone outside the fandom (who make up far more of the people who buy these games) has been complaining about.

And honestly, the type of challenge the fandom is asking for is basically having competitive level opponents in the main campaign, which honestly doesn't sound ideal to me. Pokemon's battle system isn't all that complicated I feel get a legitimate challenge unless you don't know anything about it.

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#186805: Oct 21st 2021 at 4:18:59 AM

Eh, I think SM had a nice enough challenge level without going full Smogon on you.

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#186806: Oct 21st 2021 at 4:35:06 AM

I know I can't really provide any proof to back this up, but I always felt like at least some of the difficulty from the earliest generations was due to just how few viable moves there are. Back in the first generation, there were effectively no good moves for types like ghost or bug, Lance's Dragonite could only reliably be hit super effective by ice which a player going in blind would at best have a toss-up chance of picking up a move of, etc. Now we have things like Shadow Ball and Dazzling Gleam, which I guess could be restricted and doing so would make things harder, but that would be the most inorganic way possible of doing that.

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#186807: Oct 21st 2021 at 4:44:34 AM

[up][up][up] Get where you're coming from, but specific complaints from the fandom doesn't necessarily mean the general audience doesn't notice or share it. Besides there has been attempts to address it in some form, but then it comes down to how it was implemented.

Edited by Cross on Oct 21st 2021 at 7:45:00 AM

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#186808: Oct 21st 2021 at 4:53:34 AM

Gen 1 is one of the easiest gens if you know what youre doing and even if you dont, a kadabra or alakazam can basically solo the game.

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#186809: Oct 21st 2021 at 5:42:15 AM

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I don't see how going "Have a BW 2 style level curve with the option for other difficulty modes and the option to toggle EXP Share on or off" is asking for every NPC to have a Smogon OU ready team and insanely clever AI.

Though if you wanna go down that route, GF don't *have* to make EV training, I Vs and even Natures and Abilities more accessible each generation or promote the competitive scene. I mean, they don't have to because competitive players only make up a small percentage of the Pokemon playerbase of diehards. I mean, most of the kids and older casual fans would never touch any of the comp elements whatsoever. Shit even a good chunk of the vocal online Pokemon fandom don't touch the comp scene which would make it even less than your supposed 2% caring about having difficulty options.

And yet they do make getting competitive ready Pokemon more accessible each and every generation and do advertise competitive tournaments.

Edited by PippingFool on Oct 21st 2021 at 11:46:42 PM

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#186810: Oct 21st 2021 at 5:50:18 AM

The funny thing is that Challenge Mode in BW pretty much made the game easier. You see, this was the same generation that introduced the modern exp mechanics, where you get more exp for beating PokΓ©mon higher level than you, so as you played, the level gaps would eventually fade away anyway.

What's wrong with having challenging content reserved to post game anyway? I still have yet to get a good streak in the isle of armor dojo, and I've been playing for almost 20 years x.x

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#186811: Oct 21st 2021 at 6:05:40 AM

Changing the subject, we got the "restored" version of the "found footage" video from before

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#186812: Oct 21st 2021 at 6:07:50 AM

IDK I just find having a mildly/nicely implemented challenging buildup throughout the game more compelling than just doing the same Battle Tower clone over and over again to get a challenge. It feels more natural tbh.

I don't see how asking the game to be less "Breeze through the meat of the game to get to the part you want" is that much of a controversial opinion.

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Ah so it WAS Hisuian Zoroa. It looks adorable! Loving the Noh Kitsune look

Edited by PippingFool on Oct 22nd 2021 at 12:09:28 AM

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#186813: Oct 21st 2021 at 6:09:45 AM

Good job on whoever guessed it was Hsuian Zorua

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#186814: Oct 21st 2021 at 6:22:17 AM

[snip, replied to an old post, sorry]

Edited by Eriorguez on Oct 21st 2021 at 3:22:43 PM

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#186815: Oct 21st 2021 at 6:25:13 AM

According to the Japanese website, it's Ghost/Normal type

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#186816: Oct 21st 2021 at 6:25:18 AM

[up][up][up]The red tipped tail is the big give away btw. It's the only Pokemon that has that.

[up]Huh right after Wolfey did his best type combination video that put that second. Lol.

Edited by miraculous on Oct 21st 2021 at 6:26:44 AM

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#186817: Oct 21st 2021 at 6:28:25 AM

Glad to see Gen V getting major love from GF with these regional forms and evolutions.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#186818: Oct 21st 2021 at 6:29:06 AM

I mean, the line is very frail, with 60/60/60 defenses, but oh boy if it has Illusion. Vanilla Zoroark disguised as something weak to Psychic ate through Ultra Necrozma.

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#186820: Oct 21st 2021 at 6:30:17 AM

Does it seem like a 3rd stage is implied in the vid to anyone else? tongue

Edited by alekos23 on Oct 21st 2021 at 4:30:25 PM

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#186822: Oct 21st 2021 at 7:01:56 AM

What's wrong with Porygon-Z? I like the idea of a corrupted data Pokemon

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#186823: Oct 21st 2021 at 7:12:33 AM

It is an evolution of something with a stat total close to that of Gardevoir, Lucario, Venusaur or the Eeveelutions.

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#186824: Oct 21st 2021 at 7:13:31 AM

It's time for Evolutions episode 4. This time it's White version.

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#186825: Oct 21st 2021 at 7:19:53 AM

Actually Pokemon Black is the one where N has Zekrom.

Cool to see even a little bit of the fight b/w Alder and N


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