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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#60752: Feb 17th 2021 at 6:12:24 AM

So I just learned that there has been the new Secretary of Defense, Loyd Austin.

-looks at his pic-

Holy shit the man is built like a fucking tank.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#60753: Feb 17th 2021 at 6:28:12 AM

Yep, he sure has the presence for command.

Optimism is a duty.
eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#60754: Feb 18th 2021 at 12:51:46 AM

Yeahp, I posted a link to the rare earth thing on the previous page. Globalised supply chains are funny like that: both the US and China still rely on Taiwan to produce their current-gen ICs, which neither country has the capacity to manufacture domestically at the moment.

China's share of global rare earth metal reserves aren't actually quite as dominant as their production numbers make it look like. But for many of these elements, like neodymium and cerium, the real bottleneck is the toxic extraction/refining process, which requires a lot of expensive infrastructure if you're going to do it in an OSHA-compliant manner. Something that Chinese producers, uh, aren't always that interested in.

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eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#60756: Feb 18th 2021 at 3:23:05 AM

It's CZ. Not exactly your run-of-the-mill Czech gun company.

Newly released documents shed light on 1983 nuclear war scare with Soviets. If you want to read up on the whole Able Archer 83 episode and the nuclear tensions that flared up, Marc Ambinder's The Brink: President Reagan and the Nuclear War Scare of 1983 is a really good (if long-ish) read.

    Article 
The Soviet Union put fighter-bombers loaded with nuclear bombs on 24-hour alert in East Germany during a NATO nuclear weapons command exercise in November 1983, and the alert included “preparations for the immediate use of nuclear weapons,” according to newly released U.S. intelligence records that confirm a “war scare” during some of the most tense months of the Cold War.

It was disclosed previously that the NATO exercise, named Able Archer 83, triggered worries in the Kremlin. But the new documents provide precise details for the first time of the Soviet military response to the NATO exercise, an annual event that practiced a simulated nuclear attack on the forces of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact.

According to the documents, the heightened Soviet alert was raised in the fighter-bomber divisions of Soviet forces stationed in East Germany. All command posts were ordered to be manned around-the-clock by augmented teams. In tandem, the chief of the Soviet air forces, Marshall Pavel Kutakhov, ordered all units of the Soviet 4th Air Army in Poland to be covered by the alert.

Fighter-bomber divisions were ordered to load nuclear bombs on one squadron of aircraft in each regiment. These aircraft were to be armed and placed at “readiness 3,” meaning a 30-minute alert to “destroy first-line enemy targets,” according to the documents.

Europe was the scene of a decades-long standoff during the Cold War as both superpowers prepared for conflict on land and in the air, including the possible use of nuclear weapons. A previous review of the war scare noted that Soviet military doctrine had called for preempting a NATO attack by striking first, and Warsaw Pact forces had long assumed a NATO offensive could start under the cover of an exercise such as Able Archer. The West also was prepared to use nuclear weapons in response to a conventional attack from the larger Warsaw Pact forces.

The Soviet Union deployed nuclear-capable Su-17 fighter-bombers in East Germany with six to eight pylons for bombs. One of the most ominous signs of the 1983 Soviet alert came in an intelligence report about a squadron at Neuruppin, East Germany. The alert aircraft were to be loaded with an electronic jamming pod for protection. However, reporting from the National Security Agency showed that the squadron asked to do without the electronics because of “an unexpected weight and balance problem.”

U.S. military intelligence analysts concluded that “this message meant that at least this particular squadron was loading a munitions configuration that they had never actually loaded before, i.e., a warload.”

A top U.S. intelligence official on the scene during Able Archer, Lt. Gen. Leonard H. Perroots, contacted his superiors at the peak of the tensions. He spoke with the commander in chief of the U.S. Air Forces in Europe, Gen. Billy Minter. When Minter asked whether the United States should react to what was happening in East Germany, Perroots replied there was “insufficient evidence to justify increasing our real alert posture.” But Perroots grew more worried as information came to him later showing the Soviet nervousness about Able Archer. “If I had known then what I later found out I am uncertain what advice I would have given,” he later wrote.

The new documents were included in an edition of Foreign Relations of the United States released on Tuesday. The new edition covers U.S. relations with the Soviet Union from January 1983 to March 1985, a period that included President Ronald Reagan’s description of the U.S.S.R. as an “evil empire,” the launch of Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative to build a space-based missile defense, and the September 1983 shoot-down of a civilian Korean airliner.

Moreover, the period included massive antinuclear demonstrations as the United States prepared to station Pershing II missiles and ground-launched cruise missiles in Western Europe to counter Soviet missiles. The Soviet leadership was thrust into uncertainty as three leaders died between 1982 and 1985.

In the new volume, State Department historians included a lengthy editor’s note on the war scare. The note reproduces a January 1989 memorandum from Perroots, titled “End of Tour Report Addendum.” Perroots had served as assistant chief of staff for intelligence, U.S. Air Forces Europe, during the Able Archer exercise and then as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency from 1985 to 1989. At the end of his tour, he wrote the memo to record “his disquiet over the inadequate treatment of the Soviet war scare,” according to the State Department history.

Perroots, who died in 2017, believed that he had made the correct decision not to escalate U.S. force against the Soviets, but that he lacked full intelligence about the Soviet alert. At the time, he thought the Soviet alert was concerning, but not overly so. That view changed when he saw additional intelligence reported only after the exercise had concluded. This “much more ominous picture” included a “standdown” of all Soviet air forces in the region.

A stand-down meant a pause in routine flying activity — and preparations for something else — but it was not picked up right away by Western intelligence, and that later worried Perroots.

He wrote that “a real standdown of aircraft was secretly ordered in at least the Soviet Air Forces units facing the Central Region, and that standdown was not detected,” by the West. “The Soviet alert in response to ABLE ARCHER began after nightfall on Wednesday evening, there was no flying on the following two days which led to the weekend, and then the following Monday was 7 November, the revolution holiday.”

“The absence of flying could always be explained,” Perroots wrote, but then new material arrived that was alarming, and produced an intelligence warning. On Nov. 9, “overhead photography showed fully armed FLOGGER aircraft on air defense alert at a base in East Germany. When this single indicator was raised, the standdown had been underway for a week.” The “FLOGGER” was a Soviet Mig-23 fighter.

In 2015, the U.S. government declassified a 109-page report by the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), dated Feb. 15, 1990, and titled, “The Soviet War Scare.” It was released to the National Security Archive, a non­governmental organization affiliated with George Washington University that seeks government documents through the Freedom of Information Act.

The PFIAB review concluded, “In 1983, we may have inadvertently placed our relations with the Soviet Union on a hair trigger.” The Perroots memorandum was cited in the PFIAB review, but not made public at the time. The National Security Archive had sued the DIA for the record in 2019. The suit is still pending.

According to the PFIAB report, U.S. and British intelligence showed that the Soviet and Warsaw Pact reaction to Able Archer was “unprecedented” and was “activity seen only during crisis periods in the past.” These actions were a reconnaissance effort that included 36 intelligence flights, “significantly more” than in previous years that Able Archer was conducted, and the stand-down of all military flight operations between Nov. 4 and Nov. 10, except for the intelligence flights, “probably to have available as many aircraft as possible for combat.”

The release of the Perroots memorandum adds to the PFIAB conclusion that the war scare was real. But the event has been a Cold War puzzle for many years, and the nature of high-level Kremlin discussions about it are still largely unknown.

In the aftermath of Able Archer, the U.S. intelligence community commissioned two postmortems, in May and August 1984, looking back at the events. Both intelligence estimates declared, “We believe strongly that Soviet actions are not inspired by, and Soviet leaders do not perceive, a genuine danger of imminent conflict or confrontation with the United States.” This conclusion was based on the fact that the United States did not see widespread mobilization for war at the time. But the PFIAB review criticized these estimates, saying that the intelligence community “did not at the time, and for several years afterwards, attach sufficient weight to the possibility that the war scare was real.”

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#60757: Feb 18th 2021 at 10:18:36 AM

CZ owns Colt? I did not see that coming.

TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#60758: Feb 18th 2021 at 12:17:16 PM

The Czechs have long since had perhaps the finest small arms industry in Europe, and also have a solid reputation for selling arms to whoever needs it. In the interwar years they armed half of the world; in the Soviet era they were the go-to arms dealer for Moscow.

eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#60759: Feb 18th 2021 at 2:19:04 PM

Has been the national hat since the Hussite Wars in the 15th century, honestly. Mass production of handgonnes complemented Jan Žižka's trademark wagenburgs, which helped enshrine the role of standing militias in the society and led to the codification of the citizen's right to bear arms in the 16th century Treaty of St Wenceslaus (aka the OG Second Amendment).

The modern word howitzer comes from the houfnice, a type of light cannon that the Hussites used to fire langrage shots.

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TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#60760: Feb 18th 2021 at 2:35:38 PM

Skoda made excellent artillery in the interwar years too. Czech would sell to everyone, including non-aligned countries, and even Biafra when the Soviets backed Nigeria.

Edited by TheWildWestPyro on Feb 18th 2021 at 2:36:17 AM

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#60761: Feb 18th 2021 at 4:07:30 PM

CZ has been doing some pretty interesting stuff lately, I’m interested to see what they do with the Colt IP.

They should have sent a poet.
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#60762: Feb 19th 2021 at 12:29:24 AM

Another random fleet admiral trivia.

Apparently, Chester Nimitz really loved making jokes and puns. Here's one he made after the victory of the Battle of Midway:

"Vengeance will not be complete until Japanese sea power has been reduced to impotence. We have made substantial progress in that direction. Perhaps we will be forgiven if we claim we are about midway to our objective!"

Oh. Oh God.

I'd like to imagine that he won that battle just so he can make that pun. [lol]

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#60763: Feb 19th 2021 at 1:38:52 AM

Deploying those Weapons of Mass Groans.

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#60764: Feb 19th 2021 at 3:21:53 PM

dRoy, one must always choose the lesser of the two weevils.

Regarding CZ, I've long said that you can rarely go wrong buying guns made by small European countries that historically found themselves located between large European countries.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#60765: Feb 19th 2021 at 8:37:22 PM

Huh. For some reason I never heard of CZ until right about now.

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#60766: Feb 19th 2021 at 9:18:19 PM

I think there are more people who have heard of/seen their products e.g. the Skorpion than who know the company

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eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#60767: Feb 20th 2021 at 4:49:19 AM

CW graphic injuries: China's CCTV released footage from last year's Chinese-Indian clashes in the Galwan Valley, highlighted four Chinese KIA.

Also note the current-gen PLA mountain warfare gear, including the ZTQ-15 light tanks (seen here doing exercises in Xinjiang) and QBZ-191 assault rifles (because the QBZ-95 family apparently had some truly curséd ergonomic issues). And the big fluffy Tibetan Mastiff K-9, I guess.

On an unrelated note, TIL that South Korea's Hyunmoo-1 ballistic missile is basically a reverse-engineered Nike Hercules. I mean, makes sense — the thing was the size of a school bus and flew with all the grace and precision of one.

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Feb 20th 2021 at 5:12:33 AM

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#60768: Feb 20th 2021 at 5:28:42 AM

Page not working, too many redirects.

Who watches the watchmen?
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#60769: Feb 20th 2021 at 6:42:33 AM

The Hyunmoo-1 copied the Nike-Hercules partly because of rechnical reasons and partly because of political reasons. Back in the day, Korea did not have the technology to develop its own missiles, so they had to make do with upgrading the Nike-Hercules' electronics.

Also, S.Korea just abandoned its nuclear program in the late 70s and the US did not want Korea to have nukes and missiles to carry them. The US limited the maximum range of Korea's missiles to the max range of the Nike-Hercules in surface-to-surface mode(180km), which is why the Hyunmoo-1 missiles were based on the Nike-Hercules.

The political reasons are still relevant today; there's a tacit agreement between the two countries that South Korea will not develop ballistic missiles with a maximum range exceeding 800km, and until quite recently, this limit also applied to sounding rockets and spacecraft for peaceful purposes.

Edited by minseok42 on Feb 23rd 2021 at 9:21:21 PM

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eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#60770: Feb 20th 2021 at 6:59:11 AM

Page not working, too many redirects.

It does that sometimes. Usually works fine after punching in the URL a second time. Or a third time. Or— (a lot of effort to watch Chinese state propaganda, I know)

Also, S.Korea just abandoned its nuclear program in the late 70s and the US did not want Korea to have nukes and missiles to carry them.

Yeah, that's also what happened with the Taiwanese nuclear program and its Tien Ma missile around the same period. As I gather, the Hyunmoo/Haeseong-III can reach a good deal further, but being a cruise missile rather than a ballistic missile, it's probably easier to intercept and hence less suited for aggressive actions (ditto for Taiwan's current Yun Feng LACM project).

Plus the Nike Hercules, being impractically huge and immobile as it was (seriously, the reloads were stored in underground bunkers) probably wasn't the most survivable thing going into the '80s. And when all you have is a hammer...

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Feb 20th 2021 at 7:04:00 AM

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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#60771: Feb 20th 2021 at 9:51:31 AM

Eagle, next time just save the webpage in Web Archive or Archive.is before sharing it. At least make sure your link is workable after you post it.

It does appear to me that a recent trend with Chinese state media is to be so isolationist that they're not even letting their own propaganda be seen by foreigners online. The recent CCTV Lunar New Year event was even made inaccessible on You Tube - which is Banned in China except for state media and pro-CCP accounts - on copyright grounds.

We've literally reached the point where the world's largest remaining Communist Party is censoring its own propaganda online.

eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#60772: Feb 20th 2021 at 5:00:20 PM

Nah, that's just the arcane way that Weibo is set up — it sometimes does that the first time you open it from a particular browser, which is kind of weird for a site with 300 million users but not exactly censorship. The video player doesn't work with archive services.

Study concludes depleted uranium doesn’t cause Gulf War illness.

    Article 
In the decades since Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm, veterans and researchers have strained to find a cause of the myriad symptoms known as Gulf War illness, with a strong suspicion that the depleted uranium used in armor-piercing rounds created a toxic exposure with long-term health consequences.

A study released Thursday from the University of Texas and the U.K.’s University of Portsmouth found that inhaled fumes and dust from rounds and tank armor are not the culprit.

“That depleted uranium is not and never was in the bodies of those who are ill at sufficient quantities to cause disease will surprise many, including sufferers who have, for 30 years, suspected depleted uranium may have contributed to their illness,” researcher Randall Parrish said in a release.

Studies have shown up to 25 percent of the 700,000 troops deployed in that conflict have suffered symptoms including memory and concentration problems, chronic pain and nerve system dysfunction, as well as fever, night sweats and sexual dysfunction.

The authors are instead inclined to believe that low-level exposure to sarin gas may be the cause, along with anti-nerve agent medication and pesticides troops were also exposed to during the 1991 Gulf War.

“Finding causes is a nebulous game when you have so many options to blame,” according to the release. “The Allies’ own activities destroying an Iraqi nerve agent cache or spraying pesticides liberally on troops could be seen in hindsight as an inadvertent ‘own goal’ and one to be avoided in future conflicts. It is important to find causes for conditions like this, even if it takes a long time and the causes might be controversial.”

While those toxins have also been under suspicion, depleted uranium has been of major concern, because the rounds and armor it’s found in have continued to be used by troops up to and including during the current war on terrorism.

The theory is based on past research that has found high levels of depleted uranium in troops with shrapnel injuries. Uranium is known to concentrate in the kidneys and bones and then leach out through urine over the years, but those studies were not done on Desert Storm veterans.

Parrish and his co-author, UT’s Dr. Robert Haley, developed a test sensitive enough to detect low levels of depleted uranium, which they used to scan 154 diagnosed Gulf War illness patients.

“Having found no depleted uranium in any of those with the illness, and no difference between them and a control group, who weren’t on the battlefield, alongside knowing how long the substance remains in the body and can be traced in the urine, proves depleted uranium is not linked to Gulf War illness.” according to the release.

Past research has shown that depleted uranium does live in the body for years, and that radiation and heavy metals are known to cause health issues, but there is no link when it comes to Gulf War illness.

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#60773: Feb 20th 2021 at 7:09:22 PM

The link doesn't work at all for me on chrome.

Who watches the watchmen?
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#60774: Feb 21st 2021 at 12:37:17 AM

It works for me on Firefox.

Me, I wonder if the well-known association between uranium and nuclear has clouded people's analysis of its health hazards. DU isn't particularly radioactive and much of its undeniable health hazards come from its chemical properties.

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eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#60775: Feb 21st 2021 at 3:05:06 AM

I suppose there are a few ways that toxic DU residues could get into your system — like, say, if a vehicle goes up in flames after having DU ammunition fired at it. But there were tonnes of other forms of toxic hazards in the war as well. Saddam setting fire to the Kuwaiti oil wells was the best-known one, but there's also the Coalition air strike on the Al-Muthanna chemical weapons complex (still considered unsafe to this day) and day-to-day pollution sources like trash burning at military bases.

Plus there was the Camp Blackhorse ammo depot explosion and fire in Doha, which destroyed a US base full of military vehicles (including M1 tanks with DU armour inserts) four months after the war was officially over.

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Feb 21st 2021 at 3:10:57 AM

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