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Noimporta Since: Jan, 2001
#1351: Feb 19th 2010 at 7:24:44 PM

a stronger version of Kyoka Suigetsu.

What? How?

Right now I can only think of two powers in Bleach that are stronger/as strong as Kyoka Suigetsu, I can't think how can you make an upgraded version of an illusion that controls all senses of anyone he wants.

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#1352: Feb 19th 2010 at 7:25:21 PM

^^That includes Don Kan'oiji flying in on a flaming mecha lion of justice and one shotting Aizen. Make it happen Kubo.

edited 19th Feb '10 7:25:39 PM by Beta Ray

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#1353: Feb 19th 2010 at 7:30:58 PM

Yeah, his bankai might just be a stronger version of his shikai (like Byakuya or Toshiro) or make his shikai stronger among other things (like Ichigo).

But really, the only way Kyoka Suigetsu could be stronger is it adds Your Mind Makes It Real to the mix. Plus the only reason Ichigo can possibly win is because Kyoka Suigetsu hasn't been used on him. He'd be screwed like everyone else if just the regular one was used on him, much less an even stronger one.

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#1354: Feb 19th 2010 at 7:33:16 PM

You know, I wouldn't mind Don Kanoji doing something useful. After all, he's a Mr Satan clone, and the latter was integral to the good guys' victory more than once.

edited 19th Feb '10 7:33:52 PM by Noimporta

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#1355: Feb 19th 2010 at 7:36:02 PM

Kubo should have Ichigo see Aizen's Bankai and then reveal Kan'oiji as the heroes last hope.

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#1356: Feb 19th 2010 at 7:38:27 PM

A stronger version would be, as suggested, him actually changing reality instead of perfect hypnosis.

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#1357: Feb 19th 2010 at 7:39:08 PM

@Beta Ray: Speaking of which, can anyone make one of those "Now they stand a chance!" edits replacing Ichigo breaking through to Karakura Town with Don Kanonji?

@Enlong: I was thinking more like his illusion actually being capable of injuring/killing whoever falls under them, but not actually effecting anything else.

Or maybe that his illusions stay in effect permanently, instead of just when he's around and using them on you.

edited 19th Feb '10 7:43:37 PM by thatother1dude

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#1358: Feb 19th 2010 at 7:45:07 PM

Well... I wanted to suggest the Reality Warper variant anyway. grin

Speaking of the "Now they stand a chance!" meme, anyone know where I can find a bunch of those pictures?

edited 19th Feb '10 7:45:28 PM by Enlong

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#1359: Feb 19th 2010 at 9:21:15 PM

Psychosomatic reactions would be an interesting twist on Kyouka Suigetsu.

edited 19th Feb '10 9:22:12 PM by K*SPAM

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#1360: Feb 19th 2010 at 11:11:30 PM

Lurking Narutofan again...

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#1361: Feb 19th 2010 at 11:24:38 PM

wow hitsugaya really likes tacos

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#1362: Feb 19th 2010 at 11:27:24 PM

OF COURSE! The only thing that can kill Aizen is Taco Aizen brand tacos!

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#1363: Feb 19th 2010 at 11:29:10 PM

why didn't they think of that before?

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#1364: Feb 19th 2010 at 11:34:03 PM

More from Mexican Bleach.

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#1365: Feb 19th 2010 at 11:36:12 PM

I can't stop laughing. Also he shoulda known that tequila would make his tacos more delicious.

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#1366: Feb 20th 2010 at 12:13:48 AM

They're funny, but where the hell did they come from? xD

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#1368: Feb 20th 2010 at 7:34:08 AM

Right now I can only think of two powers in Bleach that are stronger/as strong as Kyoka Suigetsu, I can't think how can you make an upgraded version of an illusion that controls all senses of anyone he wants.

What are these two powers?

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#1369: Feb 20th 2010 at 8:52:31 AM

^I'd guess that Yamamoto's Ryuujin Jakka is one of them, but no clue on the other. Maybe Orihime's Shun Shun Rikka?

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#1370: Feb 20th 2010 at 8:54:06 AM

Unless it's a nuke, I'm not seeing Ryujin Jakka being stronger than a sword whose ability can best be summed up as making you it's bitchtongue.

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#1371: Feb 20th 2010 at 8:59:50 AM

Speaking of which, can anyone make one of those "Now they stand a chance!" edits replacing Ichigo breaking through to Karakura Town with Don Kanonji?

I wish I could.

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#1372: Feb 20th 2010 at 9:01:03 AM

In terms of raw power, nothing we've seen can touch Ryuujin Jakka. Sure, Kyouta Suigetsu holds certain advantages over it, but they're in the same league, I think.

I would question the assertion that Shun Shun Rikka is in that league, though. (even though I'm the one that made that assertion) Sure, we've been told that it's a Reality Warper, but the only moderately impressive thing we've seen it do is abstract healing. And Unohana's healing seems to be just as good, if not better than hers.

edited 20th Feb '10 9:07:31 AM by Gilphon

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#1373: Feb 20th 2010 at 9:41:23 AM

What about Sakanade? Sure, Aizen rendered it useless because he was controlling the illusion from afar and never actually smelled it, but against just about anyone else, it'd be one of the most ridiculously hard to deal with shikai out there.

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#1374: Feb 20th 2010 at 9:54:12 AM

Another one of those "What the hell is it's bankai" zanpakutos. I could see Sakanade being up there.

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#1375: Feb 20th 2010 at 10:05:17 AM

I honestly don't have any real idea what any of the Bankais we haven't seen are.

Sakanade, however, I do not consider to be in the same league. It's extremely disorienting and annoying, yes. But it's also pretty much inferior to Kyouta Suigetsu. Heck, it's possible that Aizen could emulate Sakanade's power.

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