^^That includes Don Kan'oiji flying in on a flaming mecha lion of justice and one shotting Aizen. Make it happen Kubo.
edited 19th Feb '10 7:25:39 PM by Beta Ray
You are not alone, and you are not strange. You are you, and everyone has damage. Be the better person.Yeah, his bankai might just be a stronger version of his shikai (like Byakuya or Toshiro) or make his shikai stronger among other things (like Ichigo).
But really, the only way Kyoka Suigetsu could be stronger is it adds Your Mind Makes It Real to the mix. Plus the only reason Ichigo can possibly win is because Kyoka Suigetsu hasn't been used on him. He'd be screwed like everyone else if just the regular one was used on him, much less an even stronger one.
You know, I wouldn't mind Don Kanoji doing something useful. After all, he's a Mr Satan clone, and the latter was integral to the good guys' victory more than once.
edited 19th Feb '10 7:33:52 PM by Noimporta
Kubo should have Ichigo see Aizen's Bankai and then reveal Kan'oiji as the heroes last hope.
You are not alone, and you are not strange. You are you, and everyone has damage. Be the better person.A stronger version would be, as suggested, him actually changing reality instead of perfect hypnosis.
I have a message from another time...@Beta Ray: Speaking of which, can anyone make one of those "Now they stand a chance!" edits replacing Ichigo breaking through to Karakura Town with Don Kanonji?
@Enlong: I was thinking more like his illusion actually being capable of injuring/killing whoever falls under them, but not actually effecting anything else.
Or maybe that his illusions stay in effect permanently, instead of just when he's around and using them on you.
edited 19th Feb '10 7:43:37 PM by thatother1dude
Well... I wanted to suggest the Reality Warper variant anyway.
Speaking of the "Now they stand a chance!" meme, anyone know where I can find a bunch of those pictures?
edited 19th Feb '10 7:45:28 PM by Enlong
I have a message from another time...Psychosomatic reactions would be an interesting twist on Kyouka Suigetsu.
edited 19th Feb '10 9:22:12 PM by K*SPAM
Lurking Narutofan again...
Dear TV Tropes Forums... I'm sorry for leaving you for Gaia. Now I left Gaia and have an affair with Tumblr. Love, me.wow hitsugaya really likes tacos
Hello again tropersOF COURSE! The only thing that can kill Aizen is Taco Aizen brand tacos!
I have a message from another time...why didn't they think of that before?
Hello again tropersI can't stop laughing. Also he shoulda known that tequila would make his tacos more delicious.
Hello again tropersThey're funny, but where the hell did they come from? xD
What are these two powers?
^I'd guess that Yamamoto's Ryuujin Jakka is one of them, but no clue on the other. Maybe Orihime's Shun Shun Rikka?
"Canada Day is over, and now begins the endless dark of the Canada Night."Unless it's a nuke, I'm not seeing Ryujin Jakka being stronger than a sword whose ability can best be summed up as making you it's bitch.
I wish I could.
You are not alone, and you are not strange. You are you, and everyone has damage. Be the better person.In terms of raw power, nothing we've seen can touch Ryuujin Jakka. Sure, Kyouta Suigetsu holds certain advantages over it, but they're in the same league, I think.
I would question the assertion that Shun Shun Rikka is in that league, though. (even though I'm the one that made that assertion) Sure, we've been told that it's a Reality Warper, but the only moderately impressive thing we've seen it do is abstract healing. And Unohana's healing seems to be just as good, if not better than hers.
edited 20th Feb '10 9:07:31 AM by Gilphon
"Canada Day is over, and now begins the endless dark of the Canada Night."What about Sakanade? Sure, Aizen rendered it useless because he was controlling the illusion from afar and never actually smelled it, but against just about anyone else, it'd be one of the most ridiculously hard to deal with shikai out there.
I have a message from another time...Another one of those "What the hell is it's bankai" zanpakutos. I could see Sakanade being up there.
I honestly don't have any real idea what any of the Bankais we haven't seen are.
Sakanade, however, I do not consider to be in the same league. It's extremely disorienting and annoying, yes. But it's also pretty much inferior to Kyouta Suigetsu. Heck, it's possible that Aizen could emulate Sakanade's power.
"Canada Day is over, and now begins the endless dark of the Canada Night."
What? How?
Right now I can only think of two powers in Bleach that are stronger/as strong as Kyoka Suigetsu, I can't think how can you make an upgraded version of an illusion that controls all senses of anyone he wants.