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RedHunter543 Nothing is absolute. Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Nothing is absolute.
Oct 21st 2021 at 4:03:33 AM

I thought Walter was the previous Dark Lord.

M84 Despite everything, it's still you from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Despite everything, it's still you
Oct 21st 2021 at 4:04:56 AM

It seems he was just a powerful vampire. The only canon Dark Lord is Dracula himself, though Galamoth tried to usurp him.

Remember that Walter didn't have the Crimson Stone. Possession of that seems to have been the catalyst for Mathias becoming the Dark Lord.

Edited by M84 on Oct 21st 2021 at 7:06:45 PM

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land
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Oct 21st 2021 at 5:28:18 AM

Makes you wonder who the Dark Lord before Mathias was. If there even was a Dark Lord at all.

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M84 Despite everything, it's still you from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Despite everything, it's still you
Oct 21st 2021 at 5:36:47 AM

I doubt there ever was one before Dracula.

Unless you interpret humanity as a whole as the Dark Lord. Remember, the Dark Lord is simply the chosen champion of Chaos. But Chaos itself is an entity born from humanityís own potential for chaos.

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land
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Oct 21st 2021 at 5:48:55 AM

Which kinda sucks, but at least we have Belmonts around. Probably the Morrises, the Lecardes, the Belnades, maybe even the Schneiders too.

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Oct 21st 2021 at 6:52:15 AM

Walter's such a bastard I hate him.

RedHunter543 Nothing is absolute. Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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Oct 21st 2021 at 6:55:24 AM

Or alternatively, Mathias was the first Dark lord to have power like the Crimson Stone and is basically a superior successor to Walter.

MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land
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Oct 21st 2021 at 6:56:08 AM

[up][up]Who cares if you hate him? HE IS BELOVED BY THE NIGHT

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M84 Despite everything, it's still you from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Despite everything, it's still you
Oct 21st 2021 at 7:18:16 AM

Walter has the pettiest motive for ruining lives too. He's doing it because he's bored and finds sick amusement in forcing would-be challengers to attack him in a doomed attempt to save their loved ones.

He's not even really interested in an actual challenge either, since he's confident that the Ebony Stone will prevent anyone from actually hurting him. Note his Oh, Crap! reaction when the Vampire Killer breaks his defenses.

[up][up]Nah, though Walter was interested in finding the Crimson Stone. If he had found it he probably would have become the Dark Lord.

Edited by M84 on Oct 21st 2021 at 10:21:54 PM

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Oct 21st 2021 at 9:30:11 AM

Walter is basically Pre-Motive Dracula.

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land
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Oct 21st 2021 at 9:36:28 AM

Back when Dracula was just some bloodsucking asshole and not constantly pissed over two dead wives.

Although that makes me wonder:

Provided she isn't, you know, lying about that, who did Dracula bone or which one of Dracula's possible relatives boned in order for Vlad to have Elizabeth Bartley as a niece?

Edited by MightyKombat on Oct 21st 2021 at 5:38:15 PM

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M84 Despite everything, it's still you from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Oct 21st 2021 at 9:40:54 AM

[up]If Elizabeth was his niece, that means she's the daughter of a sibling of his. He wouldn't have had to bone anyone.

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land
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Oct 21st 2021 at 9:47:36 AM

Ah right right. But then where'd Drac find a brother or sister? I'd have thought that was a rather important detail

then again Bartley coulda been lying

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M84 Despite everything, it's still you from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Oct 21st 2021 at 9:49:41 AM

It was never confirmed one way or another whether Mathias had any siblings in LOI.

Edited by M84 on Oct 22nd 2021 at 12:52:49 AM

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land
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Oct 21st 2021 at 9:57:05 AM

then I'm just gonna assume Bartley was just lying about being Drac's niece just to get more followers.

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Oct 21st 2021 at 11:51:11 AM

@Mighty Kombat: I'LL KILL HIM AND THE NIGHT

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Relationship Status: I know
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Oct 21st 2021 at 12:04:28 PM

Happy 13th anniversary to Order of Ecclesia! Yes itís been more than a decade since we had a new game in the original continuity, but damn if OOE and the DS Trilogy in general werenít high notes to go out on!

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread
Oct 21st 2021 at 12:09:54 PM

[up]I definitely feel old knowing that Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia has been out that long. That was one of my favorite games for the DS, bullshit drop rates for some of the sidequest items aside.

M84 Despite everything, it's still you from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Oct 21st 2021 at 4:52:09 PM

Ah, OOE. The one Castlevania game where Dracula doesn't go One-Winged Angel.

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Oct 21st 2021 at 5:02:39 PM

Nah, he just uses HORIZONTAL MOVEMENT. The most terrible form of all.

I have fondness for OOE. I don't think it's one of the best, but it sucks that Iga and his team didn't get to refine the ideas until Bloodstained ROTN.

I do miss CV but I am glad Bloodstained can satisfy my urge for both strains of Vania, Classic and Iga flavour.

RedHunter543 Nothing is absolute. Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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Oct 21st 2021 at 5:07:16 PM

[up][up] As I recall, he just slaps Shanoa or something.

It's been 5 years since I played it.

Oct 21st 2021 at 5:10:09 PM

If you try and jump over him he cape slaps you.

ShirowShirow Eat the rich 🪓 from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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Oct 21st 2021 at 7:34:52 PM

I consider Order of Ecclesia the best Castlevania overall, and while I'm sad the series ended it at least went out on a high note.

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M84 Despite everything, it's still you from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Despite everything, it's still you
Oct 21st 2021 at 8:01:18 PM

On a side note, it's hilarious how two failed attempts at creating the Philosopher's Stone in the Castlevania verse created two stones that make vampires more powerful.

Alchemist 1: So you failed to make the Philosopher Stone. What did you make instead?

Alchemist 2: Well, this black stone blocks out the sun and makes vampires super powerful.

Alchemist 1: ...And the second one?

Alchemist 2: Well, this red stone turns people into vampires, consumes the souls of other vampires for power, and makes the Grim Reaper your best friend.

Alchemist 1: ...WTF does any of that have to do with making gold!?

Alchemist 2: <shrugs>

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RedHunter543 Nothing is absolute. Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Nothing is absolute.
Oct 21st 2021 at 8:05:27 PM

Having the Grim Reaper as your best friend sounds pretty lit though.


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