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Dcoetzee from San Francisco Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Dec 1st 2010 at 1:00:44 PM

This is not a terrible name, but it's a bit ambiguous - at first I thought it might refer to someone who says "no" but doesn't really mean it, or someone who changes their mind quickly, or whatever. There's already a perfectly suitable established term for this trope, Distinction Without a Difference, which also happens to have some Added Alliterative Appeal (it also has a Wiktionary entry with numerous examples). What do you think?

Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#2: Dec 1st 2010 at 8:03:45 PM

No, Except Yes found in: 90 articles, excluding discussions.

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Seems fairly reasonable to me, unless it is actually being misused. I'd say just add Distinction Without a Difference as a redirect and be done with it.

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#3: Dec 1st 2010 at 8:35:53 PM

I'm no fan of the current name either. I'm not up to reviewing the wicks right now, but it certainly is too broad (especially if Freud Was Right).

Distinction Without a Difference is bland and clunky as redirects go. Trivial Distinction or Semantic Difference? Or maybe Superficial Difference?

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#4: Dec 1st 2010 at 9:38:55 PM

Too Fine A Distinction?

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GoldenAlex The Undying Mage from The Flames Of Eternity Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In bed with a green-skinned space babe
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#5: Jan 15th 2011 at 2:48:08 PM

I think going back to pest control would be best....*shrugs*

BlackWolfe Viewer Gender Confusion? from Lost in Austin Since: Jun, 2010
#7: Jan 15th 2011 at 5:03:06 PM

I want to suggest "Non-Denial Denial" but that would be a case of the Trope Namer not being an example and I hate that.

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Tyoria Since: Jul, 2009
#8: Jan 15th 2011 at 7:52:40 PM

Would this be considered a sub/sister trope to Insistent Terminology?

Distinction Without a Difference is an okay redirect. I'm not really in favor of a rename unless there's misuse. Or if someone comes up with something really brilliant.

spiritsunami The Sage of Boredom from Right here, Right now Since: Jan, 2001
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#9: Feb 19th 2011 at 12:35:33 PM

This discussion has been left stale for over a month. Moving to close so we can get the "Trope Repair Shop" tag off of the page.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#10: Feb 19th 2011 at 12:55:44 PM

we've got good redirects, and no one checked the wicks to see if there was misuse. I'd say locking it is a good idea.

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