This is the thread we use to talk things over with people who have received a suspension notice. A lot of the time the notice goes out just so we can explain how seriously we take certain things, not because we want the person to feel bad and go away.
If you're suspended, give What to Do If You Are Suspended a read, then post here to begin your appeal. We try to respond to appeals in order via batch posts every few days. If a moderator has responded to your appeal, you will receive a notification in your private messages, even if you're suspended from PMs.
The Forum Rules
apply here.
Don'ts
- Don't be rude. Rule 1 applies here, too.
- Don't try to negotiate your suspension outside of this thread, such as by sending Private Messages to moderators or posting elsewhere. Such activity may be thumped or otherwise removed, and may warrant an additional suspension block if it keeps happening. All communications have to take place within this thread.
- Don't respond to other suspended users. This is a place for you to discuss your suspension, not others'.
- Don't post multiple times about your appeal if it hasn't been a few days since your last reply from us, since it makes it more difficult to compose responses. If you've posted, we're likely looking at it, and kindly request you to be more patient.
- Don't make another account to try and get around your suspension. This is called ban evasion and will get you bounced. (Again, read What to Do If You Are Suspended if you don't know what these words mean.)
Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 15th 2023 at 11:35:01 AM
What would be the case if the edit is on a page that hasn't been edited in over a month or so...?
Or how long would I have to stay away from editing in the slight chance I would be free?
Edited by TimeKnight on Jan 6th 2022 at 12:44:40 PM
~Synchronicity One specific qualification of an Edit War is when two or more users continue disputing whether or not their edits to a certain page enhances it to his or her liking, altering it continuously with no regards to respecting it. Usually this involves one user that keeps reverting another user's edits for various reasons such as whether or not it made the page in question biased towards whoever/whatever it was about, with the other user responsible for the initial edits continuously restoring them, being defiant of either the user, or site policy. Without getting any administrators involved, you can stop an Edit War from happening/continuing by either having a private discussion with the user reverting the edits in question (via P Ms), discuss your reasonings for the edits in forums such as Trope Talk, or have such chat in the Discussion column of the page you're trying to edit.
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I have thought about all of my previous actions, and I promise I won't do anything that violates the rules again. I know the consequences of said actions and if I have to be permanently banned from editing because of what I did, I'll accept it without any complaint. I came to this site because I wanted to contribute to the work everyone else does on here, and the main reason I made the post that got me suspended on the Left Hanging page was because I wanted to let out all that anger I had that there hadn't been any updates on the subject I was writing at the time. I have reflected upon the negativity it may have caused, and I'm willing to resolve this issue with you whenever possible. Thank you for listening to this, and I'll be awaiting your response.
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~synchrocity. Thanks! ... The grammar part isn't too daunting, but now that I really look at the formatting stuff, I am getting a bit intimidated... I'm an old guy, and I'm not very good at this whole HTML and other coding, but I'll give it a shot!
Excuse me, may I please have my right to edit back?
I have no idea what I did to get suspended. Whatever it is, I can assure you there was no malice or intention to do it, and will take measures to avoid it.
Just trying to improve any page that needs it.
Lost in Space
perkeez: No malice, hmm? So you wrote MoreIncrediblesExamples.Perkeez as a fun, light-hearted way to snipe at people for disagreeing with you.
We warned you enough times about this obsession. Since you can't give it up, we have no choice but to ban you.
Edited by Fighteer on Jan 6th 2022 at 11:13:21 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Lost in Space
~Kindaguy201: You have been notified about issues with grammar and formatting, but have not done anything to improve. We insist on a reasonable standard of English from all of our contributors.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
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I didn't do it to snipe at anyone. It was meant as a storage space. I definitely won't be doing it again though, since I now know it is now allowed.
Good morning and happy new year. A while ago I accidentally started an edit war and got banned. Now I know how to do without starting a war, and I would like a second chance.
Lost in Space
perkeez: Quoting you on that page: "Tropes [...] that were or would be wrongly rejected due to overly strict criteria being applied."
This passive-aggressive attack on consensus is precisely the sort of petulant behavior that got you suspended before. You haven't actually given up your Single-Issue Wonk; you've just given up overt edit warring and prefer this low-key hostility instead. Well, you can do that somewhere other than TV Tropes.
fran97: Since you have once again failed to meaningfully answer our posts, your ban is now complete and permanent.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
If you mean preserve justice, I shall. At least I would be treated fairly elsewhere.
Just trying to improve any page that needs it.
Lost in Space
You keep telling yourself that. Bye.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
~Time Knight: As has already been explained to you here, we don't generally give timed suspensions to people who have not resolved to do better about their troping habits, especially those that brought them here twice. If doing better about edit warring is a resolution of yours, it's not showing in your subsequent replies. Now, let's try this again: do we have any reason to believe you won't edit war again? If the answer is no, then I don't see you regaining editing privileges, no matter what other contributions you might have in mind. Sorry.
~prgiordano: You are right on the second count — you have to discuss a disputed edit with another troper through our various avenues. However, your first answer is still a bit off. It only takes one re-add or re-remove by the same person (as in, someone adds/removes an example, someone changes it, then the same person adds/removes it again) to count as an Edit War, and so you have to discuss the edit before the re-add. Is that really, truly, genuinely clear to you?
~Edgelord Edge: Resolving to calm down about an edit that induces negative feelings in you is an improvement. However, you still have to resolve the issues brought up here
.
~Kindaguy 201: Please use the Get Help With English
forum thread for a while.
~Synchronicity Yes it is. That is exactly how I got here in the first place. You do not take any chances with risking an edit war of any kind. I was starting to begin one when I first tried reverting some of my edits, & you had to take immediate action on me.
Edited by prgiordano on Jan 8th 2022 at 9:12:06 AM
Yes, I know I'm in the wrong. Yes, I'm sorry for being an inconvenience.
Another reason to believe I won't edit war again: Should I be released, I'll see to being more cooperative, listening to other Tropers that have a problem with me and elaborate my issues. I know how this site takes edit warring seriously. Even if I never caused an Edit War on purpose, I have reflected on my actions and will take responsibility for this and any others. Again, I apologize for the edit warring. I will be more cautious with preventing any more edit wars, and definitely with following the rules of edit wars and all other rule pages. I really value my time with this site and would wish to continue editing.
Otherwise, I'll accept to staying here for a while. It all depends on the final decision placed on me going forward.
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~Synchronicity I understand that I need to resolve any remaining issues and I will do anything to keep myself from making those mistakes again. For the YMMV issue, I will gladly be able to move any future topic that is meant for the YMMV page for the media that it covers when it says so; I will add context to any example I put on any page, and that also includes those for the topics I love, and I know that the issue with the capitalization and boldfacing in unnecessary times will negatively impact the community, and said issue is something that other Tropers have done in the past. I promise I will be a better example for all of you, and if I am to ever break that problem, at least I know the consequences of it.
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Hello. I have been banned for a very long time, even though it said it was only temporary. Can you please Un-bann me?
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Karl_01: You have already been told twice to go to the Get Help with English thread and to read Example Indentation in Trope Lists get help with your grammar and example indentation issues and you have yet to do so.
Hello, I have received a suspension from editing pages. Could you explain the reason for suspension and if its something I can improve/address? (spelling or grammatical errors, controversial edits, ect.) My email is a bit laggy so if you allready sent a reason via that ive probably not read it yet (i will do asap)
I have already read the page I was send to. What do I do now?
The Man Outside Reality
Hi, I got suspended for trying to re-add an entry to the YMMV page of Spider-Man: No Way Home, even though I tried to explain why I thought it was a reasonable entry in the edit reason. Although I wasn't trying to start a fight, I see some people on ATT say this is actually edit war behavior, hence my suspension. How do I prevent this from happening again? Do I have to go to ATT every time I want to explain why I think an entry is worth keeping?
Trust no one.
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~Prest Otron: You have been suspended for vandalizing character quotes on Five Nights at Freddy's: First Generation.
~Matthew Wayne: If you make the third back and forth edit on a contested entry, you are edit warring regardless of your intentions. If someone reverts an edit you did on an article, it’s best to try to bring up the issue in PMs, Ask The Tropers, the discussion page, or the forums.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 8th 2022 at 7:13:37 AM
Macron's notes
The Man Outside Reality
Alright, I'll keep that in mind for the future. I honestly forgot that you can PM people because of how rarely I do it. Apologies for the edit warring and general inconvenience.
Edited by MatthewWayne on Jan 8th 2022 at 4:16:23 AM
Trust no one.
~Time Knight: That would give you the ability to fall back into harmful patterns of editing regardless of your intentions.
~jasonred79: Got it one. The comment about Asterix that you left on the page was a big violation of Repair, Don't Respond. When you see something that does not fit, utilize the edit reasons, discussion pages, and fora (including Ask The Tropers) instead of talking on the main page. Got it?
Moving on, you're also correct about the Rising Stars example lacking formatting, which is a big no-no. It's also got some grammar missteps.Specifically... In order to properly add examples you need to brush up on your Text-Formatting Rules. We'd also like you to visit the Get Help With English
forum thread for a bit. Once we are satisfied with your edits there, we can continue this conversation.
~prgiordano: The answer we are seeking from you is very simple and has been spelled out to you already in the replies. But unless we are sure that you understand it, you won't be released. Let's try this one more time; don't overthink it.
~Statzkeen: If you feel that a trope should actually be subjective when it isn't, the solution is not to add it to YMMV pages when it doesn't have the YMMV banner. There are several avenues to determine if it should actually be YMMV, including but not limited to Trope Talk and the Trope Repair Shop. You are correct that the removal of your example was actually justified, and you were wrong to re-add it.
Now, moving on...you're also in here for an Edit War. After reading that page, can you tell me what you should have done instead of re-adding the example?