I don't see any need to split it. Motive Decay is Motive Decay, why bother splitting into villain/neutral/hero categories?
Agreed, if we need to make one specifically for the villainous variant, we can.
Fight smart, not fair.Agree. There is no reason that this must be villain specific. I say rewrite the article.
A rewrite should be fine. A character is a character, regardless of their alignment.
I think just a minor rewrite should be fine, like, add one paragraph that says 'This can also apply to heroes who blah blah blah"
Especially since occasionally Motive Decay can be a gradual process of moving from hero to villian or vice-Versa
But if there are examples where the character depth decays instead of motive, that could be split off.
EDIT: I honestly don't know if there are. That just occurred to me as a Sister Trope.
edited 3rd Jun '10 8:13:29 AM by DragonQuestZ
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.Flanderisation, well maybe more the flanderised version of flanderisation, by which we mean flanderised by the newer interpretation of flanderisation. Sure that made sense...
Still, sounds a lot like the original Flanderisation anyway.
edited 3rd Jun '10 9:41:38 AM by SomeSortOfTroper
The page has been rewritten. As all that the page talked about was villainy, it turned out to be a pretty big rewrite.
Just to clarify, the way I wrote it and how I think we have to look at this trope like this: Any motive that for no reason (aka character development) is simplified to the point of a stock character.
"Motive Decay can be a gradual process of moving from hero to villain or vice-Versa" No, because any turn, must have at least some reason. It could be a mixed bag of motive decay and character development, but motive decay never has a reason beyond simplification.
"But if there are examples where the character depth decays instead of motive" But a new motive is character development. Depth decay of an existing motive is exactly what I think motive decay is.
If I may be brief , think about it like this: Motive decay is anti-characterization. Motivation breaks down to its simplest form, robbing the character of dimension.
Forgot to say that if there is anything I have got wrong or failed to grasp, please tell.
edited 15th Nov '10 8:28:27 AM by Ergoogre
If you read this sig, I am sorry to have wasted your time.
The summary of Motive Decay is very clear that it's about villains who start out having a clear, often (but not always) sympathetic motive for what they do and then veer into evil-for-evil's-sake territory. The examples, both on the trope page and in its wicks, refer to any character (or group) that starts out with a particular motivation for their actions and then proceeds to ignore it.
Is this one trope (in which case the description needs an overhaul) or a splitting situation?