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Ultimatum ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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ShirowShirow Eat the rich from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Eat the rich
Mar 25th 2020 at 1:52:11 PM

Yeah, I've seen that line get dissected years ago.

Personally I find Tifa acting out-of-character like that due to extreme monotonous exhaustion kind of funny but obviously the better option is to change it.

Bleye knows Sabers.
MarkIV Alchemist from Lancashire best shire Relationship Status: Not war
Alchemist
Mar 25th 2020 at 2:24:02 PM

Just change it to a less problematic insult.

Life is more fun with infinite MP.
fredhot16 from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Mar 25th 2020 at 2:24:54 PM

Can't go wrong with "dumbass".

Suspension of disbelief: I can believe in time travel but it still has to make sense with it's own rules.
HailMuffins Degenerate Supreme from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Degenerate Supreme
Mar 25th 2020 at 2:26:28 PM

Failing that she could say "Stop jinxing us, asshole!"

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Ultimatum ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
MarkIV Alchemist from Lancashire best shire Relationship Status: Not war
Alchemist
Mar 25th 2020 at 3:39:42 PM

"I'll kick your ass up the stairs!"

Life is more fun with infinite MP.
HandsomeRob High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood! from Holey Brotherhood Lair Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood!
Mar 25th 2020 at 5:35:28 PM

...was Cloud tired going up the stairs?

Cause you'd think a genetically enhanced Super Soldier would be able to handle that shit.

Read this post for my theory
Mar 25th 2020 at 5:37:19 PM

Cloud isn't a genetically enhanced super soldier one

Two, no, he doesn't ever get tired, mainly because you're playing as him the whole time and there are no cutscenes til the very end.

lycropath Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Mar 25th 2020 at 5:53:49 PM

I mean he's is one, although not the kind he thinks he is. More of a side project of Hojo's that didn't pan out, but still genetically enhanced but never really deployed.

dmysta3000 Big Smoky from New York and New Jersey Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
dmysta3000 Big Smoky from New York and New Jersey Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
HandsomeRob High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood! from Holey Brotherhood Lair Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
High Priest of the Holey Brotherhood!
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:06:17 PM

A lot of regular actors rather than Voice actors.

....is that good? There's overlap, but voice acting is kinda different.

Read this post for my theory
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:09:01 PM

Too bad Mark Hamill isn't the voice actor for Don Corneo.

ShirowShirow Eat the rich from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Eat the rich
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:11:00 PM

Voice acting is very different. There are tons of regular actors that do incredibly flat performances when they are thrown into voice acting.

That said, there haven't been any FFVIIR voices that have struck me as poor in any way so I'm sure we'll be fine.

Bleye knows Sabers.
HailMuffins Degenerate Supreme from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Degenerate Supreme
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:12:17 PM

[up][up]Better yet, Mark Hamill as President Shinra.

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lycropath Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:12:48 PM

XII also didn't use a lot of standard voice actors and used a lot more stage actors.

dmysta3000 Big Smoky from New York and New Jersey Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Big Smoky
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:17:20 PM

[up]Honestly every main FF after X hasnt really used well known VA (at least at the time)

GOH! JII! RAH!
ShirowShirow Eat the rich from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Eat the rich
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:25:50 PM

Japanese devs rarely use the Nolan North panic button as far as I know.

Although during the PS 2-early PS 3 era me and my brother actually had a game called "Time to Crispin Freeman" where we would time how long it took us to play a game before Crispin Freeman showed up.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Mar 26th 2020 at 4:29:31 AM

Bleye knows Sabers.
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Formerly G.G.
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:27:57 PM

I once wrote a Reddit thread asking if mistranslation can affect how we view the game. I know the translated games are good in their own right and I know Death of the Author is a thing after all but it just seems like there some nuances that just get lost in translation. I know which one is the best way to interpret the games?

"This wild child knows his way around the jungle."
dmysta3000 Big Smoky from New York and New Jersey Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Big Smoky
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:28:42 PM

[up][up]Funnily enough the only time I've ever heard him do something Final Fantasy related was voicing Setzer in Kingdom Hearts 2

Edited by dmysta3000 on Mar 26th 2020 at 4:31:52 AM

GOH! JII! RAH!
ShirowShirow Eat the rich from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Eat the rich
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:29:55 PM

[up][up]Direct translation is becoming more popular and fan-demanded (Where you lose all the nuance) while Woolseyism does better for the story but takes more skill to do right and occasionally leads to fan complaints because fan complaints are often dumb.

There. Summed up.

[up] Guy popped in in every other PS 2 JRPG I played.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Mar 26th 2020 at 4:33:11 AM

Bleye knows Sabers.
Draghinazzo My love, has dressed me like a clown Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
My love, has dressed me like a clown
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:33:24 PM

SUPER direct translation is almost always bad. What's the point of doing that if the dialogue is just stilted and doesn't sound right? You can see this with fan translations all the time where they're unnecessarily wordy and don't bother paraphrasing things because they're too afraid to take small liberties to convey what people are saying in a concise way.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. ...not really though.
Nikkolas from Texas Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:35:13 PM

Final Fantasy games are actually pretty good at avoiding the usual suspects. A game like Xenosaga has a lot of the same voices you would hear in any anime dub of the late 90s or early 2000s but Square likes to bring in unknowns or lesser knowns for their major roles.

They give the old veterans minor roles, like Mary Elizabeth Mc Glynn being Moms Are Tough. Or Simon Templeman being a minor Judge Magister in XII.

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ from Somewhere...I think
☆♥☆
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:37:15 PM

On the other hand, the problem with trying to spice up translations is that translators and localizors think they're more clever than they actually are.


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