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Because Kinkajou told me to.

So yeah, anything about Final Fantasy! I guess this would make a good starting point: Which are your favorite games in the series and why?

My two all-time favorites are tied between Final Fantasy V and Final Fantasy IX. They're both very fun games that don't take themselves too seriously while still being legitimately emotional. On top of that, Zidane is my favorite Final Fantasy lead in the entire series. He's light-hearted, fun, and a generally nice guy to be around. FFV also has the advantage of having one of, if not the best, Job System in an FF game. Both FFV and FFIX make characters customizable while keeping them all unique in their own way. I'm also very fond of Final Fantasy I; it hasn't aged well, but it's classic, and like FFV, I played it tons as a kid.

I assume we'll drift around to various other FF-related discussions as the topic grows, right?

edited 3rd Nov '09 4:22:18 AM by Stark Maximum

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#61476: Mar 25th 2020 at 1:50:35 PM

wild mass guess in the remake she'll call him a stupid dumb face

New theme music also a box
ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#61477: Mar 25th 2020 at 1:52:11 PM

Yeah, I've seen that line get dissected years ago.

Personally I find Tifa acting out-of-character like that due to extreme monotonous exhaustion kind of funny but obviously the better option is to change it.

MarkIV Alchemist from Lancashire best shire Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
Alchemist
#61478: Mar 25th 2020 at 2:24:02 PM

Just change it to a less problematic insult.

Life is more fun with infinite MP.
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#61479: Mar 25th 2020 at 2:24:54 PM

Can't go wrong with "dumbass".

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#61480: Mar 25th 2020 at 2:26:28 PM

Failing that she could say "Stop jinxing us, asshole!"

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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MarkIV Alchemist from Lancashire best shire Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
Alchemist
#61482: Mar 25th 2020 at 3:39:42 PM

"I'll kick your ass up the stairs!"

Life is more fun with infinite MP.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#61483: Mar 25th 2020 at 5:35:28 PM

...was Cloud tired going up the stairs?

Cause you'd think a genetically enhanced Super-Soldier would be able to handle that shit.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#61484: Mar 25th 2020 at 5:37:19 PM

Cloud isn't a genetically enhanced super soldier one

Two, no, he doesn't ever get tired, mainly because you're playing as him the whole time and there are no cutscenes til the very end.

lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#61485: Mar 25th 2020 at 5:53:49 PM

I mean he's is one, although not the kind he thinks he is. More of a side project of Hojo's that didn't pan out, but still genetically enhanced but never really deployed.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#61488: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:06:17 PM

A lot of regular actors rather than Voice actors.

....is that good? There's overlap, but voice acting is kinda different.

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#61489: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:09:01 PM

Too bad Mark Hamill isn't the voice actor for Don Corneo.

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#61490: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:11:00 PM

Voice acting is very different. There are tons of regular actors that do incredibly flat performances when they are thrown into voice acting.

That said, there haven't been any FFVIIR voices that have struck me as poor in any way so I'm sure we'll be fine.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#61491: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:12:17 PM

[up][up]Better yet, Mark Hamill as President Shinra.

lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#61492: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:12:48 PM

XII also didn't use a lot of standard voice actors and used a lot more stage actors.

dmysta3000 Since: Apr, 2009
#61493: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:17:20 PM

[up]Honestly every main FF after X hasnt really used well known VA (at least at the time)

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#61494: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:25:50 PM

Japanese devs rarely use the Nolan North panic button as far as I know.

Although during the PS 2-early PS 3 era me and my brother actually had a game called "Time to Crispin Freeman" where we would time how long it took us to play a game before Crispin Freeman showed up.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Mar 26th 2020 at 4:29:31 AM

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#61495: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:27:57 PM

I once wrote a Reddit thread asking if mistranslation can affect how we view the game. I know the translated games are good in their own right and I know Death of the Author is a thing after all but it just seems like there some nuances that just get lost in translation. I know which one is the best way to interpret the games?

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dmysta3000 Since: Apr, 2009
#61496: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:28:42 PM

[up][up]Funnily enough the only time I've ever heard him do something Final Fantasy related was voicing Setzer in Kingdom Hearts 2

Edited by dmysta3000 on Mar 26th 2020 at 4:31:52 AM

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#61497: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:29:55 PM

[up][up]Direct translation is becoming more popular and fan-demanded (Where you lose all the nuance) while Woolseyism does better for the story but takes more skill to do right and occasionally leads to fan complaints because fan complaints are often dumb.

There. Summed up.

[up] Guy popped in in every other PS 2 JRPG I played.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Mar 26th 2020 at 4:33:11 AM

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#61498: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:33:24 PM

SUPER direct translation is almost always bad. What's the point of doing that if the dialogue is just stilted and doesn't sound right? You can see this with fan translations all the time where they're unnecessarily wordy and don't bother paraphrasing things because they're too afraid to take small liberties to convey what people are saying in a concise way.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#61499: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:35:13 PM

Final Fantasy games are actually pretty good at avoiding the usual suspects. A game like Xenosaga has a lot of the same voices you would hear in any anime dub of the late 90s or early 2000s but Square likes to bring in unknowns or lesser knowns for their major roles.

They give the old veterans minor roles, like Mary Elizabeth Mc Glynn being Moms Are Tough. Or Simon Templeman being a minor Judge Magister in XII.

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#61500: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:37:15 PM

On the other hand, the problem with trying to spice up translations is that translators and localizors think they're more clever than they actually are.


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