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Because Kinkajou told me to.

So yeah, anything about Final Fantasy! I guess this would make a good starting point: Which are your favorite games in the series and why?

My two all-time favorites are tied between Final Fantasy V and Final Fantasy IX. They're both very fun games that don't take themselves too seriously while still being legitimately emotional. On top of that, Zidane is my favorite Final Fantasy lead in the entire series. He's light-hearted, fun, and a generally nice guy to be around. FFV also has the advantage of having one of, if not the best, Job System in an FF game. Both FFV and FFIX make characters customizable while keeping them all unique in their own way. I'm also very fond of Final Fantasy I; it hasn't aged well, but it's classic, and like FFV, I played it tons as a kid.

I assume we'll drift around to various other FF-related discussions as the topic grows, right?

edited 3rd Nov '09 4:22:18 AM by Stark Maximum

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#59101: Sep 21st 2019 at 9:33:59 PM

I wonder if Vincent and Yuffie will be mandatory in the remake. Every subsequent appearance by the FFVII gang shows they were canonically recruited, and it's not like anyone deliberately tries to miss them anyway.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#59102: Sep 21st 2019 at 9:34:58 PM

Well considering they are iconic characters now, they’ll definitly be played up.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#59103: Sep 21st 2019 at 9:36:35 PM

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I believe it's called A Way to a smile.

Plus, hasn't it been said Cloud was acting that way due to a literally depression disease?

Not that he didn't have some things to be a bit messed up over. Watching someone you care for get Sephy-shanked in front of you will do that.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Sep 21st 2019 at 10:37:01 AM

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#59104: Sep 21st 2019 at 9:39:18 PM

Yuffie and Vincent will most likely be mandatory, considering the extra effort that would need to be put into accounting for the cutscene and voice acting differences caused by them being there or not. Someone in an interview said that issue is why the two never appear in any CGI cutscenes in the original game, and I vaguely recall something similar being said about why there's never been optional party members in any games after VII.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#59105: Sep 21st 2019 at 9:40:35 PM

Dirge of Cerberus is kind of a little microcosm of everything wrong with the Compilation; meaning, depth and weight sacrificed in the name of style.

That it focused on Vincent Valentine, a character whose whole appeal rested on them being really cool, is kind of fitting.

Pretty much, though I'd go further and say that Dirge doesn't even succeed at being stylish. By most accounts it's an incredibly dull and janky third-person shooter with character designs that range from mediocre to embarrassingly bad.

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#59106: Sep 21st 2019 at 9:47:48 PM

[up][up][up]That's the in-story reason but Cloud is like that in AC because Nomura wanted to write him that way due to fans thinking that's what Cloud was.

I blame Kingdom Hearts.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#59108: Sep 21st 2019 at 9:52:04 PM

The disease was supposed to kill anyone infected by it but we never see that in Advent Children, so it boils down to just being a source of angst for Cloud and Not!Roxas.

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#59109: Sep 21st 2019 at 10:04:06 PM

[up]x4 Yeah by Dirge a lot of FF's attempts at style had become kind of laughable. ZIPPERS AND BELTS. AND ANGST.

Everything became Chuunibyou fodder.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#59111: Sep 21st 2019 at 10:11:08 PM

The little boy character they made for it. He's a younger, darker haired Roxas.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#59112: Sep 22nd 2019 at 6:35:27 AM

Doesn't Hojo straight up tell you that he's Sephiroth's father even if you don't recruit Vincent? Though I suppose you do find out who the mother is and how Sephiroth got his crazy powers from Vincent's sidequest.

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#59114: Sep 22nd 2019 at 6:42:16 AM

I need to finish FF 7 but I am to lazy to do that now. Not to mention, I like to take my time when I am playing a video game.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#59115: Sep 22nd 2019 at 6:49:07 AM

> Yuffie and Vincent will most likely be mandatory

I see them being more like future DLC

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#59116: Sep 22nd 2019 at 8:52:21 AM

Bringing Vincent into the battle with Hojo gives you a pretty cool moment, but between the two optional characters Yuffie gets way more development. The Wutai quest is lengthy enough that you feel you really get to know her, and she has some pretty fun interactions as a party member while Vincent mostly broods when you talk to him.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#59117: Sep 22nd 2019 at 11:13:46 AM

As I recall, Vincent just says that Hojo was the one who should have atoned (by sleeping) and Hojo spends the whole scene talking to Cloud.

Edited by Hobgoblin on Sep 22nd 2019 at 11:17:49 AM

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#59118: Sep 22nd 2019 at 12:02:27 PM

Even though Hojo does refer to himself as Sephiroth's father, I always get the sense he means like a creator rather than any real meaning of being a father. When you are willing to experiment on your child, lie about their past, and subject their life as one big experiment, then it's obvious that your so-called interest in your child is superficial.

In some sense, Hojo is what Shou Tucker would be if he was able to do his evil on a grand scale-though Hojo is actually older conceptually than Shou Tucker.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#59119: Sep 22nd 2019 at 12:06:24 PM

I think that's a given considering Hojo talks about everything like an experiment. Particularly Cloud.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#59120: Sep 22nd 2019 at 12:10:15 PM

Gosh, imagine if Hojo learned FMA's alchemy; if his son was still a kid and he captured Red he would so be interested in making a chimera out of his son, so he could have the attributes of Red's species.

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#59121: Sep 22nd 2019 at 5:37:24 PM

[up]Thank you, now I will try to burn that horrifying mental image from my head.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#59122: Sep 22nd 2019 at 6:11:59 PM

Yuffie's kind of astonishing in how much extra dialogue she has. She has more dialogue than some mandatory members like Red. It's pretty clear her scenario had a lot of love and care poured into it, her abundance of personality makes her one of my favorite characters in the game.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#59123: Sep 22nd 2019 at 6:14:40 PM

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Well, she is a chatterbox.

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#59124: Sep 22nd 2019 at 7:39:14 PM

I always liked Yuffie and Vincent and was always kind of puzzled why they weren’t mandatory so they can’t be skipped considering the amount of content 7 already has

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#59125: Sep 22nd 2019 at 7:42:44 PM

IIRC it was due to crunch.


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