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Because Kinkajou told me to.

So yeah, anything about Final Fantasy! I guess this would make a good starting point: Which are your favorite games in the series and why?

My two all-time favorites are tied between Final Fantasy V and Final Fantasy IX. They're both very fun games that don't take themselves too seriously while still being legitimately emotional. On top of that, Zidane is my favorite Final Fantasy lead in the entire series. He's light-hearted, fun, and a generally nice guy to be around. FFV also has the advantage of having one of, if not the best, Job System in an FF game. Both FFV and FFIX make characters customizable while keeping them all unique in their own way. I'm also very fond of Final Fantasy I; it hasn't aged well, but it's classic, and like FFV, I played it tons as a kid.

I assume we'll drift around to various other FF-related discussions as the topic grows, right?

edited 3rd Nov '09 4:22:18 AM by Stark Maximum

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#56251: Apr 4th 2019 at 8:03:41 PM

Fuck that. I don't care where Kuja's coming from. He's a dick.

If he had even a handful of redeeming traits and qualities than maybe, but he doesn't. People shouldn't automatically win sympathy because they're dying.

Edited by Hashil on Apr 4th 2019 at 9:06:25 AM

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#56252: Apr 4th 2019 at 8:06:08 PM

Oh, no, I didn't think anyone forgave Kuja. Zidane tells him off before the fight with Deathgaze.

I just think his realization of "Man, I've been kind of an asshole my whole life and want to make amends." is wholly at odds with his unapologetic death and destruction prior. We don't even really get to see his thought process the moment he goes from "I'm going to kill you all if I can't destroy the crystal." to "Oh no, what have I done?"

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#56253: Apr 4th 2019 at 8:21:04 PM

Although i guess that brings up the important difference between sympathy and forgiveness. Watching even the worst people suffer and collapse can invoke pity but obviously not agreement with what they've done. That could be another way to look at Kuja.

I think this is one of the reasons Necron exists. Kuja in the final battle is a dying man having a breakdown about it. That's extremely pitiable. Having the true final boss be against the embodiment of death is a much more feel-good thing to triumph over.

Darkflamewolf Since: Apr, 2013
#56254: Apr 5th 2019 at 5:31:21 AM

That and Necron looks freaking awesome! Even if he is a bit of a cheat during battle.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#56255: Apr 8th 2019 at 5:31:45 PM

Oops.

Sorry if somebody already posted this.

Edited by Nikkolas on Apr 8th 2019 at 5:32:30 AM

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#56256: Apr 9th 2019 at 8:25:59 PM

I mean, that's one of the guesses that's already been stated here or in other places, so it's unfortunately not a surprise. I'm going to hold out hope, but that would require them to like, literally remake the game at this point, I think.

Unrelated, I was in the book store today and saw a couple novels from FF 7, along with some comics. Who knows, maybe someday we'll get that stupid story where Tidus does to a blitzball bomb! I know I'd read it out of morbid curiosity about how stupid it is. (Also aren't there a few other books written for other FF properties?)

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#56257: Apr 9th 2019 at 9:20:49 PM

There's quite a few FF novels, several of which never left Japan.

Possibly the most famous one in Japan was the FFII novelization that came out a few months after the game which has a lot of changes from the game's plot, and a lot of extra character and setting details not in the game.
Some novelizations of I, II, and III that came out in 2012 for the series' 25th anniversary.
Novelizations of FFIV and FFIV The After Years that came out in 2008-2009 to go along with The After Year's release.
The FFVII short stories to tie in with Advent Children, which are relatively known about since they were released in English.
The infamous FFX-2.5.
A whole series of novels based on FFXI.
A prequel novel to FFXIII, and a couple spin-off novels for XIII-2.

And if we're talking about manga too, there's several with different levels of obscurity.
Adaptations of I and III from soon after their release.
An old FFV-based gag manga starring Bartz and Boco.
A manga adaptation of the first book in that FFXI novel series.
A totally separate FFXI-based manga that only got a few chapters before being effectively canceled.
A partial adaptation of FFXII.
A Type-0 spin-off manga.
A Crystal Chronicles adaptation.

On the subject of obscure FF media, there's also a couple of FF anime I'm sure many people don't know about. The 90's OVA "Legend of the Crystals", which is a distant sequel to FFV, and the early 00's TV series Final Fantasy Unlimited, which itself had a couple novels and an audio drama.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#56258: Apr 9th 2019 at 9:30:09 PM

[up]I watched "Legend of the Crystals" when I was a kid.

It was...alright I guess.

Disgusted, but not surprised
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#56259: Apr 9th 2019 at 9:38:58 PM

I actually have a DVD of FF Unlimited, which for some reason I've never watched. I've had it a while too. It's only the first one, though.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#56260: Apr 9th 2019 at 9:54:51 PM

Is the novelization of II where the Emperor's name being Mateus came from?

Heart of Stone
KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#56262: Apr 9th 2019 at 10:04:35 PM

Interestingly, the name "Mateus" has stuck around, but not applied to the actual emperor it seems. One of the Totema from FFTA and an Esper from FFXII share the name.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#56263: Apr 9th 2019 at 10:18:32 PM

Don't forget Exodus the Judge-Sal, who is very clearly based on a combination of the FFV Big Bad Exdeath and another FFV boss Atomos. Or Zeromus the Condemner, who is based on FFIV's Big Bad Zemus' One-Winged Angel Final Boss form. Or Chaos, the Walker of the Wheel, who is based on the Big Bad and Final Boss of the very first FF game. Or Famfrit the Darkening Cloud, based on the FF III Big Bad the Cloud of Darkness.

Pretty much all of the Espers who weren't bosses from the original FF Tactics game (XII is set in Ivalice just like FF Tactics) are shoutouts to previous FF Big Bads.

Edited by M84 on Apr 10th 2019 at 1:24:02 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#56264: Apr 9th 2019 at 11:18:28 PM

I've heard of FF Unlimited but I haven't watched it myself beyond maybe the first episode at best. I wonder if it's any good...

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#56265: Apr 9th 2019 at 11:51:10 PM

There's also Final Fantasy Stranger (?) in which an FF fan and his sister end up in a mashup FF world and the fan gets discovers he can still see stats and shit as a special power. It actually starts off with him and his sister having fun in the first volume before something terrible happens to her.

It was easy to spot because the covers are SUPER colorful and the protagonist is almost too noodly on it.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#56266: Apr 10th 2019 at 12:40:45 AM

[up][up] It was horrific honestly, terrible plotting then the climax happens and suddenly the MC can use a summon for no reason to win the fight... the end.

I may rag on some FF entries but Unlimited was worse than any game, Spirits Within was way better than Unlimited and I am completely serious.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#56267: Apr 10th 2019 at 6:33:29 AM

Interview where the developers look back on Final Fantasy VI

It's so wild that the World of Ruin wasn't planned at first and came about because they were ahead of schedule.

(Sakaguchi) I said this previously during a live stream, but I even really thought the last dungeon of FFIII was horrible (Laughs bitterly)

lol. I'm glad everyone's aware.

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#56268: Apr 10th 2019 at 7:34:07 AM

(Shibuya) Even now I still often get asked “Is Terra’s hair blond or green?”. If we’d gone by Mr. Amano’s designs, just about all of the characters would have blond hair, and it would be harder to distinguish between them.

Someone finally said it.

SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#56269: Apr 10th 2019 at 11:56:53 AM

[up] Exactly! Hell, he even makes other people's non-blonde characters blonde.

Personally I'm down with the Theatrhythm Curtain Call route of just splitting the difference and making her hair spring green.

Edited by SapphireBlue on Apr 10th 2019 at 12:00:06 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#56270: Apr 10th 2019 at 12:07:03 PM

I've been saying this for years.

Blonde Terra is a low level Berserk Button for me, and I never liked that Dissidia went with it. Green haired Terra or bust.

One Strip! One Strip!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#56271: Apr 10th 2019 at 12:08:46 PM

green hair is gross

blond <green

New theme music also a box
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#56273: Apr 10th 2019 at 12:28:06 PM

I feel green makes her look like a christmas tree ornament.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#56274: Apr 10th 2019 at 12:30:20 PM

Green hair is fine based on the shade of green.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#56275: Apr 10th 2019 at 12:30:32 PM

Free achieves that exotic, otherworldly look that they were going for with her.

I know Blonde hair is all super exotic in Japan, but green hair achieves that on a much wider scale.

One Strip! One Strip!

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