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One of the many site updates Kory plans to push in the near future is for everyone's user creation to be publicly displayed. However, we didn't start to record user creation dates until sometime pre-2010, so accounts older than that get internally labeled as being created 1/1/2001 even though the site didn't exist back then. So, kory asked me to make this thread on his behalf so that we can get community input on what we should do with accounts that were created pre-2010

EDIT from Kory: Given that the code seems fairly easy, at least in this case, I have a proposal, just need community feedback for options:

Everyone will have the option to just show their regular date OR a drop-down list of options based on their account age such as: (Current Options)

  • < 1 year = ("Pilot", “Private”, "Holding A Herring", “Troper Youngling”, “ Troper in training”, “Greenhorn”, “Newbie”, “The New Guy/Girl/Person”, "Green Spout", "Plucky Enseign", "Apprentice") and ?
  • > 1 year = ("Handed A Sword", "Less Newbie", "Season 1", "Series 1", “Troper Apprentice”, “ Experienced but not yet jaded”, “Life not ruined yet”, “Unitroper”) and ?
  • > 2 years = ("Striking Back", "Season 2", "Series 2", “Sergeant”, "Y2: Electric Boogaloo", "Troper Journeyman", “Experienced Trainee”, "Terrible Twos", “Bitroper”) and ?
  • > 3 years = (“3 is a Magic Number”, "Not-So-Newbie", "Trinitroper", "Searching for Spock", “Troper Squire”, “Rule of Three”, “Tritroper”) and ?
  • > 5 years = (“Five Year Plan”, “Captain”, "Pentatroper", "Fifth Year at Tropey's", “Troper Knight”, “ Five Long Years”) and ?
  • > 7 years = ("Rule of Seven", "Seven Years' War", "Seventh Son”, “Septatroper”, “Spin-off Series”, “4 Score & 7 Years Ago”, “Lucky 7”, "Petty Master") and ?
  • > 10 years = ("Elder Troper", "Long Runner", “Edited uphill both ways”, “Major”, "X-Troper", "Decatroper", “Master Troper”, “Old as dirt”, “Don’t ask”, “Wise, aged troper”, “it’s Ben 10”, “Veteran”, "Ten years in the joint") and ?
  • > 13 years = ("Living Relic", "Sage of the Hills", "Oldest One in the Book", "Ancient one", “Decorated Troper”, “Old Master”, "On A Trope Odyssey", "Unlucky Thirteen", “Troper Sage”, “Marshall", "Emeritus Troper")
  • > 15 years (includes 2001) = ("Precursor", “OG troper”, “Great Old One”, “Before Time Began”, “Troper of Legend”, "Time Abyss", "Primordial Chaos", “ y2k”, “tvtrope Prime”, “Before Recorded History”, “Series Finale”, “Old enough to drive”, “General of TV Troops”, "Mammoth", "Living Relic", "Tropes Time Lord", "Prehistoric Troper") and ?

We would just need to fill these in with some more funny / clever options. I’ll make the list big just like the relationship status so make as many suggestions as you want below!

     Age and # of accounts logged in this year 
  • 1,034 accounts have logged in this year that are > 15 years old
  • 1,428 accounts have logged in this year that are > 14 years old
  • 3,197 accounts have logged in this year that are > 13 years old
  • 5,841 accounts have logged in this year that are > 12 years old
  • 7,837 accounts have logged in this year that are > 11 years old
  • 10,390 accounts have logged in this year that are > 10 years old
  • 19,663 accounts have logged in this year that are > 7 years old
  • 24,102 accounts have logged in this year that are > 5 years old
  • 28,639 accounts have logged in this year that are > 3 years old
  • 31,356 accounts have logged in this year that are > 2 years old
  • 34,476 accounts have logged in this year that are > 1 years old
  • 7,921 accounts have logged in this year that are < 1 years old

So 42,397 users have logged in this year.

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Edited by kory on Aug 1st 2023 at 12:29:50 PM

wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#51: Jul 4th 2023 at 7:40:43 PM

"Edited uphill both ways"?

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#52: Jul 4th 2023 at 10:35:12 PM

wingedcatgirl,

That sounds good to me. [tup]

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Cibryll Aile from Frost Heraldry (she/her) Since: Feb, 2022 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
#53: Jul 5th 2023 at 3:53:25 PM

"Elder Troper" for 10+ years? 🤔

"What ails you, my friend? Stay a while, and listen~"
kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#54: Jul 6th 2023 at 8:52:19 AM

Great suggestions so far! Will probably have this up another week before pushing to review.

EDIT: Looking at the troper database table it looks like only around 1,000 accounts are older than 15 years (since tracking didnt start until 2010ish), 20,000 accounts are older than 13 years and 60,000 older than 12 years. So i switched the >15 years to be >13 years so a good chunk of older users actually get access to those options.

it was also brought to my attention that people with the 2001 date accounts and people who have 15+ years overlap in account age so both should get all of the created date options.

Edited by kory on Jul 7th 2023 at 3:45:48 AM

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#55: Jul 7th 2023 at 11:06:17 AM

I could also put up other year choices that people will get access to in the future.

Added another timeframe: > 7 years = ("Rule of Seven","Seven Years' War") since the gap between 5 and 10 is pretty big. Could use some more choices for it.

Edited by kory on Jul 7th 2023 at 11:35:37 AM

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#56: Jul 7th 2023 at 12:22:54 PM

Would need something less-specific. My account, for instance, will be 8 years old soon, so the joke doesn't work. Maybe something like "Trying for its driver's license" or "Old enough to know right from wrong"?

I'd like to apologize for all this.
kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#57: Jul 7th 2023 at 12:25:38 PM

fernandolemon,

The choices are to indicate that your account is at least that old. Such as the "Fifth year at trophy's" for > 5 years or “Rule of three” for > 3 years.

"Trying for its drivers license" Would work for >15 years but its a little long.

Edited by kory on Jul 7th 2023 at 12:41:56 PM

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Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
He/Him
#58: Jul 7th 2023 at 1:24:24 PM

@post 54 is that active or total accounts that are that old? I assume total, but want to be sure (and am admittedly curious how many accounts from that era are still active)

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HoloMew151 Space Gal from From Deep, Deep Space Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Tweaking my holographic boyfriend
Space Gal
#59: Jul 7th 2023 at 1:31:31 PM

Since I've turned 2 recently, how about "The Terrible Twos" or "The Troper Twos"?

Edited by HoloMew151 on Jul 7th 2023 at 9:31:38 AM

kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#60: Jul 7th 2023 at 2:43:47 PM

acebrock,

Thats total accounts. Here i did some queries for fun:

  • 1,034 accounts have logged in this year that are > 15 years old
  • 1,428 accounts have logged in this year that are > 14 years old
  • 3,197 accounts have logged in this year that are > 13 years old
  • 5,841 accounts have logged in this year that are > 12 years old
  • 7,837 accounts have logged in this year that are > 11 years old
  • 10,390 accounts have logged in this year that are > 10 years old
  • 19,663 accounts have logged in this year that are > 7 years old
  • 24,102 accounts have logged in this year that are > 5 years old
  • 28,639 accounts have logged in this year that are > 3 years old
  • 31,356 accounts have logged in this year that are > 2 years old
  • 34,476 accounts have logged in this year that are > 1 years old
  • 7,921 accounts have logged in this year that are < 1 years old

So 42,397 users have logged in this year.

Edited by kory on Jul 7th 2023 at 2:51:13 AM

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lovexnana13 striving for purpose from the blood of my enemies Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
striving for purpose
#61: Jul 7th 2023 at 4:57:33 PM

For seven years, maybe "Four Score and Seven Years Ago", but I feel like it's a bit forced.

Psychoman13 Since: Oct, 2019
#62: Jul 7th 2023 at 5:29:37 PM

For Seven maybe “seventh son of a seventh son”. Never saw the movie that came from and just remember it from the trailer. I just wanna contribute.

kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#63: Jul 7th 2023 at 11:02:22 PM

Added your suggestions to the OP. It doesn’t have to be a trope, it can just be something clever, goofy or corny. Or even something from a famous movie.

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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
🍊orange fursona🧡
#64: Jul 7th 2023 at 11:37:32 PM

Since this wiki is approaching 20 next year, will there be special options for the people who have been around since the site was made? Or for the people of the Buffistas era?

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#65: Jul 7th 2023 at 11:51:52 PM

None of the users created dates go back that far. It’s mentioned in the OP. Oldest accounts in the DB are only around 15 years old and there’s no way of knowing what the real age of users with the 2001 created date is.

But if you or anyone else wanted to come up with ideas that no one will have access to for awhile that’s also fine.

Edited by kory on Jul 8th 2023 at 8:38:28 AM

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ANonagon9 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#66: Jul 8th 2023 at 3:27:04 AM

Two more ideas:

  • (Three is) a Magic Number [School House Rock]
  • Lucky 7 [Trope]

GreenGalaxy Six feet of solid style. from ur base, killin' ur doodz (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
Six feet of solid style.
kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#68: Jul 8th 2023 at 3:54:28 PM

I’m sure someone will appreciate it. [tup]

Once I push up this change we can always add choices in the future. Since the code for it is already done, doing an insert statement into the database with more choices is effortless. I just wanted a good base of choices to start with. So if we get a bunch of people with good suggestions after it’s live we can still add them.

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#69: Jul 8th 2023 at 6:08:37 PM

How about something like "there when it was written" for the 15+?

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thatsnumberwang Since: Oct, 2010
#70: Jul 9th 2023 at 3:25:37 AM

LOL. My account is bang on 2010, as prior to that you didn't need to sign in to edit. I could have had one with a funky broken year as I was here for quite some time beforehand.

Those Wild West days of the site were... something else, to put it mildly. We've come a long way.

PantaroP Since: Mar, 2011
#71: Jul 10th 2023 at 6:48:41 AM

Perhaps "Season 1B" for two-year accounts? Because for many shows (and especially those on streaming services), "Season 2" is just the back half of Season 1 under a different name.

kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#72: Jul 10th 2023 at 11:26:39 AM

I'm finished with this task besides how it will look. The "since: date" seems fine, but im not sure what to make it look like with the custom text. I'm removing the "since:" because "Since: The New Guy" and most of the other options doesn't make sense. Any suggestions? https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_07_10_at_111852_am.png https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_07_10_at_111901_am.png https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_07_10_at_111908_am.png

Edited by kory on Jul 10th 2023 at 11:27:28 AM

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#74: Jul 10th 2023 at 11:38:11 AM

Amonimus, ah that would work for the smaller text options. The longest one we have is "Experienced, Not Yet Jaded" though, so i'll see how it turns out with the longer ones.

I'm also bringing back badges below everyone's picture like how it is in the main forums. So i'm not sure how cluttered we can make it below the avatar.

Edited by kory on Jul 10th 2023 at 11:38:51 AM

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#75: Jul 10th 2023 at 11:47:05 AM

Let me pick someone as a lab rat


https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_11_308.png


This makes me question the layout of the badges actually


https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_12_35.png


This makes me question why the info box is aligned to the profile pic center and not the top


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