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#1: Jan 3rd 2022 at 4:37:49 AM

This has bugged me for a while about whether its allowed or not, so here I ask. Also, I'm a bit stuck until the "Romantic" Two-Girl Friendship crowned is called, so I'm killing time.

I've noticed that there are often work pages where one of the genres it's in is listed as a trope, most commonly Yuri Genre (whether that's because it's the biggest offender or it's just a matter of my tastes, I don't know) and I'm never sure if I should remove them or not. I personally have avoided adding them to work pages I create because I'm not convinced I should.

A good example of what I'm talking about would be the wick at the bottom of Girl Friends's trope list above the indexes (which I'm tempted to cut on the grounds that it's a zce alone)

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#2: Jan 3rd 2022 at 11:54:56 AM

You are correct in wondering about this. Official policy is that genres and mediums are written above the line, in the article description, not in the example lists. Broadly speaking, an article that functions as an index (except for supertropes) should never be used as a trope example.

Edited by Fighteer on Jan 3rd 2022 at 2:55:40 PM

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#3: Dec 16th 2023 at 9:02:28 PM

[up] But what if the trope example means that it is either the work's secondary genre or it uses many elements/tropes of that particular genre?

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#4: Dec 16th 2023 at 10:26:00 PM

"Reborn as Villainess" Story gets this all the time, and as a result of cross-wicking, a lot of entries that repeat the premise because that's how the entry went on the index.

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#5: Dec 16th 2023 at 11:34:58 PM

Worth noting that this thread was nearly two years old when it was bumped.

Also worth noting in the case of Yuri Genre that it used to be called Girls' Love, with no "genre" qualifier; note that one of the last versions before it was turned into a redirect gave the image (mostly) the same caption the one on Yuri Genre has now, and the first copy under the new name starts with the somewhat oddly redundant line "a genre sometimes known as Yuri Genre...". As such it was very widely misused as a trope rather than a genre (and best practices for genre pages might not quite have been hammered out when the page was created to begin with), and there might be (or might have been) lingering misuse of that sort laying around.

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#6: Dec 17th 2023 at 3:02:31 AM

This is just yet another showcase of Genres being indexes but often not being used like indexes.

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#7: Dec 17th 2023 at 3:03:38 AM

[up] I think I now understand why some suggested genre should get its own page type.

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