Metroid Dread - Spoilers Thread

Tallon being on the same Stellar System as Zebes is random as fuck.

It is? How do we know that?

There is an scanable diorama of that system in the same room you get the Super Missiles on Prime.

I mean, it kinda makes sense. Like Ridley most likely would have died if they didn't retrieve his body and operate on him quickly enough.

Zebes and Tallon IV being farther would put a damper on that.

I guess it makes sense that if the Chozo settled one planet in the system they’d settle another

It does mean that when the Phazon meteor hit Tallon, the Zebes Chozo went phew glad that’s not me

I'm liking the idea that the Chozo just suck at keeping contact with each other.

~Chozo watching Tallon through a telescope: LOL, hey dude, check out this sick view. A meteor just crashed into our neighbors.~

Living in harmony with nature means no phones

Zebes is also a far less hospitable planet for what we've seen. So "haha, the neighbors, for all their garden world boasting, just got planet cancer!".

Though realistically the rest of the Chozo who weren't Mawkin probably felt nothing but grief and deep existential dread. It was one step closer to extinction for their race.

Conversely, if they found out the Mawkin got themselves X-nommed, the rest of the surviving Chozo probably thought "good riddance".

Edited by M84 on Oct 21st 2021 at 10:27:15 PM

Gray Voice pointing Tallon IV to Samus “And thats what pride gets you.”

“A spot of light in the night sky?”

“You’ll understand when you’re older”

-in Prime- “Ooooooh”

"That's a nice blue color."

"Trust me, you'll hate it before long."

If you read deep enough into the backstories the "two Chozo colonies in the same system" turns out to have no explanation beyond pure coincidence. Super Metroid indicates that the Chozo's ship crash-landed on Zebes, they probably only settled there in the first place because they wound up stuck there. Zero Mission indicates that the Chozo have lived on Zebes for so long that their oldest statues are of Chozo warriors, which their culture has shifted away from by the time they adopt Samus. Prime 3 indicates that the Chozo that settled Tallon IV were from Elysia.

So like, the Zebes Chozo were not from Tallon IV and the Tallon IV Chozo were not from Zebes; they just happen to live in the same system.

There’s something incredibly funny about a highly advanced warrior race crashing on a hellhole and going “guess we live here now”

Honestly the more we learn about the Chozo the funnier they are as a precursor race

Edited by Bocaj on Oct 21st 2021 at 10:53:32 AM

The Chozo kind of stopped giving a crap after realizing they were doomed to go extinct due to not remembering to have sex.

...wait cloning technology is a thing in metroid

why cant they just fuckin clone more chozo

Chozo DNA could just be extremely difficult to clone viable specimens from for whatever reason.

Kind of like how in DC comics cloning Kryptonians always seems to have mixed results. Or how in Star Wars it's nearly impossible to clone Force users without some kind of horrible defects.

Edited by M84 on Oct 21st 2021 at 11:09:21 PM

As a biologist, I find highly amusing how cloning technology is approached in space-based franchises.

Cloning is a thing in Metroid but maybe the Chozo decided it wasn’t a satisfactory substitute for having offspring

Part of the point is the realization of the dead end their single minded obsession with war and battle brought them to and why MOST of the Chozo turned their energies instead to leaving a more positive legacy

Forever Cloning is a holding pattern.

If they wanted to avoid possible Clone Degeneration then they could just have them come out as infants (Or would it be chicks in their case?) and have them reproduce naturally when they get old enough.

Edited by Kaiseror on Oct 21st 2021 at 11:12:52 AM

Uh, Dolly was born an infant, yet she still suffered from degeneration.

In general clones just don't outlive their original. Like let's say my lifespan is from 2000 - 2100, then baby me would live from 2021 - 2100.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Oct 21st 2021 at 8:36:14 AM

That’s a point too

Chozo clones would be cloned from super old genes

Erm, you know that the egg cell that became half of you is as old as your mother, right?

Probably late to the party, but I understood that the Prime series took place over a couple of years.

I remember reading this from Nintendo statements back in the day:

Prime 1 takes place almost immeadiately after Zero Mission. This one is mostly headcanon, but the manual does imply Samus is on the warpath, chasing the remnants of the Pirate forces that fled Zebes. Maybe a couple weeks after Zero Mission?

Prime 2 was established as taking place 1 year after Prime 1. It does make sense to me, given that Hunters is set between both games. It also gives Dark Samus and the pirates some time to regain their strengths.

Prime 3 supposedly takes place 6 months after Prime 2, given that this game starts simply when some pirates take the wrong batch of Phazon and allow Dark Samus to return.

So, in essence, the Prime games take place over the Space of almost 2 years. Which, if we include Federation Force and maybe Prime 4, makes for a very brief but violent period in the Galactic Federation's history.

Which does make sense, given that after those events, they decide to eradicate the metroids once and for all to prevent further catastrophes.

I'd wager that the longest period of time is probably between Super Metroid and Other M / Fusion.

There's also the point that cloning in the Metroid games so far has only ever been for the purpose of creating bioweapons. The clones weren't being created to be viable lifeforms.