That's why I think a clean up to restrict things to actual hospitalizations is fine and drop the miscellaneous events that could have been bad. If something went wrong due to oversight but no one was actually hurt that might work as a comment under Troubled Production. Truthfully, a trope that is expressly "something bad almost happened but didn't" doesn't sound all that interesting, it's People Sit on Chairs.
Do you not know that in the service one must always choose the lesser of two weevils!I do think that on-set injuries/hospitalizations that derail productions are notable, but isn't that covered under Troubled Production?
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meTroubled Production covers much more than just injuries.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.So I only just noticed this, but when we were cleaning up this page, ~laserviking42 deleted some Disney Theme Parks examples claiming they're "not related to actual acting." However, the latter two examples are explicitly about actors — one is a live show taking place outside Pirates of the Caribbean, and the other is a stunt show. Both injuries were sustained while performing for their roles. Why would these accidents not count?
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.I think ~laserviking42 was correct for the first and third examples (employee and rehearsal), but I agree that the second example (onstage) would count.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.I would argue for rehearsal as they're still acting for the job. Does the item require the camera to be running or an audience to be present?
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.I don't think there's much of a functional difference between rehearsing for a play and filming a take.
Yes, it does. That's the difference between Fatal Method Acting and Died During Production.
The take is intended for an audience. Rehearsing a scene for a film is not the same as filming the scene because one is intended for the audience and the other is practice before filming.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.I thought the main difference was that Died During Production is more about creators (not actors) leaving the work unfinished due to their death.
Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 22nd 2021 at 8:51:53 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.Your right, Died During Production explicitly prohibits actors from counting as an example.
I hope you don't mind me noting that the description for Died During Production doesn't seem to be sure:
- This can also happen with individuals who play a major role in creating a group work; for instance, actors or directors. In any case, it gets to be pretty sad that so many people lose their jobs because of one person's death, but if the work was good enough it's likely that those who worked on it won't have too much trouble finding another job.Please note that this trope applies when a creator (writer, director, etc.) ceases work on a project, not a participant (actor, well... mostly actors) unless they had significant input.
The point of Died During Production is that the death halts or significantly changes the production. It was once known as Author Existence Failure and then broadened, but the idea is that a major creative force is no longer able to, well, create.
Edited by HeraldAlberich on Oct 26th 2021 at 3:01:37 PM
Huh, your right, the description was ambiguous on the matter. But it looks like somebody changed it, and actors certainly don't fit the spirit of the trope. Then again some projects were cancelled when an important actor died...
Anyway, dying during a rehearsal probably does not count as an example of Died During Production.
Somewhat ambiguously stated, since not every example of an actor dying during production is going to put a halt/end an the entire work. It was recently in TRS and that's why the name changed.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
I would say only the former fits the spirit of the item. There were some examples of the latter but that's more bring saved by fate.
Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 4th 2021 at 1:21:23 PM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.