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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#1: Dec 24th 2020 at 7:21:11 PM

So, for those who don't know, DC will shift their line for the next few months, taking place in a possible future filled with legacy characters like Jonathon Kent becoming the new Superman.

So, how would you do a "Marvel Future State?"

I have some ideas of what I would do with it:

    General Developments 
  • Krakoa is still around, but Xavier, Mags, Mystique, and Moira have been booted out. Krakoa in general is also much more integrationist with the rest of the world.
  • Steve Rogers has gone to space as the new diplomat for Earth. The Red Wolf character of 1872 and Occupy Avengers fame is operating as Captain America on Earth.
  • Tony Stark has digitized his consciousness and copied it across an array of suits to form an "Iron Legion."
  • Thor is still All-Father and has largely retired from active super heroics; Angela instead has become the premier Asgardian super hero.

    Avengers Family 
  • Astonishing Avengers: A new team of Avengers meet to combat the new Masters of Evil. The more "Justice League"-ish book with a big story and starring mostly characters with their own solos. Roster: Kate Bishop (leader and financier), Angela, Ironheart, Captain America (1872!Red Wolf), Nightcrawler, Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan), Black Panther (Shuri); Masters of Evil: The Maker, Graviton, Mystique, Blackheart, Warbird.
  • Sensational Avengers: Another team of Avengers have to track down a black market Extremis/Mutant Growth Hormone hybrid designer drug. More of a "classic Avengers" book, looking to be more character-oriented with heroes who don’t necessarily have their own books. Roster: Cyclops (leader), Ghost Rider (Robbie Reyes), Vision, Lightning (Miguel Dos Santos), Songbird.
  • Champions: The Champions are mostly a humanitarian/rescue team, and they have to go Bagalia to help with a recent devastating earthquake while dealing with a supervillain government. Roster: Dylan Brock, Normie Osborn, Ellie Camacho, Ahura Boltagon, Gabby Kinney.

    Spider-Man Family 
  • Amazing Spider-Man: Peter is engaged to Mary Jane and is largely retired from Spider-Duties… until Flash Thompson is spotted alive, when he’s still been dead since Go Down Swinging. Now he and Mary Jane must track down Flash while dealing with the rise of Roderick Kingsley as New York’s new Kingpin after Wilson Fisk dies of a heart attack.
  • Ultimate Spider-Man: Miles has recently graduated from ESU and has to consider either staying in New York with uncertain job prospects or pursuing a lucrative scientist position in Portland. Meanwhile, Asset Quantum has gained sentience and is going to blow up New York.

GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
#2: Dec 28th 2020 at 8:21:17 AM

How far away is the future setting supposed to be?

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#3: Dec 28th 2020 at 9:21:23 AM

[up] I imagine somewhere between 5-10 years in the future; enough for serious character progression, especially the younger heroes, while not ar enough to make the universe unrecognizable.

Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
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#4: Dec 28th 2020 at 12:03:04 PM

I have an idea:

  • The original Fantastic Four is dead. They were killed by Franklin who used illegal means to gain a power theft ability and is using it to build a criminal empire because he's a petty brat who only cares about being a god. Valeria is trying to build a new Fantastic Four. Blame the evil Franklin thing on this fanfic I read.

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#5: Dec 28th 2020 at 2:34:41 PM

Marvel already did something like this and introducing several legacy characters.

Your Champions line up also has no ties to the current team and skews too much towards Spider-Man characters.

There are also other teams besides the Avengers. Kate being the leader is cool, but she's currently not rich so i'm not sure about her bankrolling the team.

Edited by Cortez on Dec 28th 2020 at 6:37:43 AM

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#6: Dec 28th 2020 at 3:05:27 PM

[up] I mean, I think it's an interesting thought experiment, even if Marvel has more prominent legacy characters than DC does at the moment.

I'll admit that the Champions line-up is different than the current one, but my thinking was "who are the younger, pre-teen characters that can inherent the Champions name as the premier teen superhero team?" Those were the characters I could come up with; to the Spider-People point, there are like 2 out of 5, but I suppose you could swap out one of them (probably Normie) for an original character.

With regards to non-Avengers teams, it was mostly because I was more confident about Avengers ideas and that Avengers books should really be big books. I do have ideas for Guardians and X-Men that I might post later. With regards to Kate Bishop, I'll concede I did not know that about Kate; maybe they're bankrolled by Stark's will.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#7: Dec 28th 2020 at 3:08:56 PM

Who has good ideas for the X-Men?

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GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
#8: Dec 28th 2020 at 3:34:41 PM

What about mutantkind being on the verge of extinction? They haven't done that plot before, did they?

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ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#9: Dec 28th 2020 at 3:40:31 PM

Could I put out an idea I have for a "Future State" for an Ultimate Universe Marvel universe where everybody ages through the years from their first appearance in the comics (or from their canonical introduction in the timeline, whichever comes first)?

Or should this thread only consider the canon 616 universe as its "base"?

Edited by ClancyGardener on Dec 28th 2020 at 3:47:34 AM

Trimming the hedges, one trope at a time.
Cortez Since: May, 2009
#10: Dec 28th 2020 at 3:57:43 PM

as the premier teen superhero team?" Those were the characters I could come up with; to the Spider-People point, there are like 2 out of 5

Yeah, but the other half skews towards the X-Men.

Champions shouldn't just be children of established heroes. The only falls under that in the current book is Viv.

As far the Cap in this setting, why not Eli or a grown up Dani Cage?

[up]

That was already done in the MC 2.

Edited by Cortez on Dec 28th 2020 at 7:58:26 AM

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#11: Dec 28th 2020 at 6:38:55 PM

[up]x2 Like a universe-wide version of Spider-Man: Life Story? That would be pretty interesting, but I feel like it's a slightly different discussion.

[up] I mean, yes, most of the Champions aren't literal children of previous heroes, but most are legacies in some form or another. Anyways, I think I've come up with a slightly different roster that could work better: Ahura Boltagon, Dylan Brock, Doyle Dormmamu, Gabby Kinney, Valeria Richards, Crescent and Io.

With regards to Red Wolf-as-Captain America, it's partly because I recently read Avengers: No Surrender and thought he would be a cool character to expand on and that you could put a spin on the classic "man out of time" angle. That being said, I'm not married to the idea.

GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
#12: Dec 31st 2020 at 9:07:20 AM

Thor retires from superheroics, and reforges Mjolnir into four hammers. Those are given to Joey Demaio, Eric Adams, E.V. Martel, and Anders Johansson.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#13: Jan 14th 2021 at 1:15:40 PM

You know, one thing that I always pictured in my head, partly based on Bendis' whole spy angle he tried to incorporate in Miles' comics before he left for DC, and part from the Journey into a Mystery tie-in to War of the Realms is a new Secret Warriors team.

One composed of Quake, Druid, Kate Bishop, Miles Morales, Inferno & Death Locket who focus on stopping international threats. Not necessarily a black-ops squad though. And since this is a Future State-esque idea, have the reformed Phil Coulson become the new Director of S.H.I.E.L.D..

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